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View Poll Results: How would you approach the expansion draft?
Protect just the 8 skaters + 1 goalie in the OP 14 11.48%
Add C. Miller + Beleskey to the protected list 10 8.20%
Add C. Miller + an inexpensive forward (ie. Schaller) to the protected list 68 55.74%
Add a D-man that isn't C. Miller + 1 forward to the protected list (Who?) 24 19.67%
I disagree with the 8 players being kept in the OP to begin with (Comment below) 6 4.92%
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02-24-2017, 12:29 PM
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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.

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There is going to be a ton of trades this offseason. It's going to be very interesting.

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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.
Well you have to protect 7 F.

Who do you protect up front if you expose Spooner?

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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.
He's easily tradeable so I'd keep him. There's probably going to be a team looking for a guy like him after they lose someone in the draft.

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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.
Than why not trade him for an asset instead of letting him exposed and lose him for nothing?

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Well you have to protect 7 F.

Who do you protect up front if you expose Spooner?
You don't have to. You could replace Spooner with Miller right off the bat if you wanted to. 8 skaters is an option.

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02-24-2017, 12:42 PM
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lol not protecting Spooner. You trade him if you're not protecting him. I mean I'm not the biggest Spooner fan, but honesty. He's a snap protect in our situation. Protect without even worrying.

For all the trolling about getting Krejci to waive, the Spooner stuff is not even a sweat. Sweeney has him on the list unless he's traded.

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02-24-2017, 12:51 PM
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You don't have to. You could replace Spooner with Miller right off the bat if you wanted to. 8 skaters is an option.
Why would Boston do that?

Protect 8 skaters instead of 10 just so they can protect at least 2 of Colin/Kevan/McQuaid/Morrow?

Oh and now by protecting 4 D you've now exposed one of Pastrnak or Marchand.

Sounds great.

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Why would Boston do that?

Protect 8 skaters instead of 10 just so they can protect at least 2 of Colin/Kevan/McQuaid/Morrow?

Oh and now by protecting 4 D you've now exposed one of Pastrnak or Marchand.

Sounds great.
They shouldn't... just saying protecting 7 forwards isn't a requirement.

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They shouldn't... just saying protecting 7 forwards isn't a requirement.
Yes but then don't phrase it as your replacing Spooner with Miller.

Because in reality your replacing Pasta or Marchand with Miller if you go 8 skaters.

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Belesky and McQuaid.

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Really who I would protect for the expansion draft all depends upon the trades i could make between now and then. It is still far too early to decide who will be protected with the last few spots.

Edit to add: someone over the course of the remainder of the season/playoffs could earn the privilege to be protected by how they play. At the very least someone could increase their trade value for a trade thus changing the pieces in play to be protected.


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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.
I mean, you can not want Spooner... but exposing him for nothing is crazy talk.

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I would protect Chiller. I would not protect Spooner, his inability to take never mind win a faceoff makes him expendable IMO.
That's bad asset management.

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Yes but then don't phrase it as your replacing Spooner with Miller.

Because in reality your replacing Pasta or Marchand with Miller if you go 8 skaters.
What? There are 5 forwards and 2 dmen no one would argue against, and that includes Pasta and Marchand. If you don't keep Spooner, you can put Miller in as the 8th skater. That would give you an option to add 2 forwards but you don't have to.

I'm not arguing for it, I'm just saying it's a technical possibility.


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02-24-2017, 01:32 PM
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What? There are 5 forwards and 2 dmen no one would argue against, and that includes Pasta and Marchand. If you don't keep Spooner, you can put Miller in as the 8th skater. That would give you an option to add 2 forwards but you don't have to
Backes, Bergeron, and Krejci are the forwards that they HAVE to protect due to NMCs.

Chara the D-man with the NMC.

Your 8 skater options.


Option A 7 F and 1 D.

F - 42, 37, 46, + any 4 of Pastrnak/Marchand/Spooner/Nash/Schaller/Belesky/Hayes

D- Chara

Option B 6 F and 2 D

F - 42, 37, 46, + any 3 of Pastrnak/Marchand/Spooner/Nash/Schaller/Belesky/Hayes

D - Chara, + any 1 of Krug/Morrow/Colin/Kevan/McQuaid

Option C 5 F and 3 D

F - 42, 37, 46, + any 2 of Pastrnak/Marchand/Spooner/Nash/Schaller/Belesky/Hayes

D - Chara, + any 2 of Krug/Morrow/Colin/Kevan/McQuaid

Option D 4 F and 4 D

F - 42, 37, 46, + any 1 of Pastrnak/Marchand/Spooner/Nash/Schaller/Belesky/Hayes

D - Chara, + any 3 of Krug/Morrow/Colin/Kevan/McQuaid

Option A exposes Krug, and lets you protect the same number of forwards as 7 F/ 3 D, with only protecting one D-man.

Option B lets you protect 1 less forward, and 1 less D than if you just go the 7 F/ 3 D route.

So why would Boston choose Option C and leave 2 more skaters unprotected they don't have to? Makes no sense. If your going to protect just 3 D, then common sense says you go the 7 F/3 D route.

Option D leaves one of Pastrnak or Marchand exposed and as good as gone, for free.

This team is going to protect 7 F and 3 D, you can book it.

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This may be the most pointless argument I've had. I agree 5 f + 3 d makes no sense, I'm just saying it's an option. If you were in a situation where every unprotected forward had an albatross contract, it may make sense.

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I would hate to lose McQuaid, but I would protect C. Miller over him...

I assume Vegas would be looking for some veteran defensemen from their expansion picks, so I am predicting that Quaider or K. Miller is gone. Is there a chance they would take Subban?

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Belesky and McQuaid.
Wrong

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I prefer to keep Belesky over Hayes based on skill. Factor in contracts and mybe keep Hayes bc I think he only has one year left. Get rid of one ( or both? ) at the cost of Malcom....???

Oor KMiller in place of Hayes


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Than why not trade him for an asset instead of letting him exposed and lose him for nothing?
Who wants a center that can't take faceoffs?????

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I mean, you can not want Spooner... but exposing him for nothing is crazy talk.
Right now I would not classify myself as sane so there you go.....

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Vatrano is exempt, right?

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Right. Second year pro.

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Who wants a center that can't take faceoffs?????
I think this gets blown way out of proportion because of the old Claude Julien team thing. Faceoffs will never be a strength for Spooner, and I'm not sure anyone should ever count on him to win big D-zone faceoffs late in games (although he had a huge one last night), but he's more than okay enough at them to play center in the NHL. If you take out this year (as he's been all over and completely out of rhythm probably), his average is realistically only a bit below 45% for his career.

With more experience (and playing at center full time), I could see him being at least high 40s, maybe around 50%, which is probably average for offensive-minded centers. I hardly think it's a sticking point for most teams, and it probably isn't even as much of a big deal in Cassidy's offense now.


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