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Brad Marchand is the best ice hockey player in the world right now

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02-27-2017, 12:16 AM
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It's a stretch not to call these two seasons elite when you factor in his two-way talent and the goals.
If you have a loose interpretation of the word, maybe

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02-27-2017, 12:20 AM
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What are Forseberg's stats in 2017???

In the year 2017, Brad Marchand is currently the best ice hockey player in the world.

That's nothing to do with streaks. 2017. So far. He is the best. And it's NOT CLOSE at all.
Yeah that's a 2 month streak.

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02-27-2017, 12:28 AM
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Best player in the world right now isn't in the NHL as there are no games currently being played... ???
You fail to take off-ice performance into account.

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02-27-2017, 12:36 AM
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Jinx thread. Marchand's save% is gonna take a dip next year.
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There's nothing to believe. Marchand is this year's best player in the NHL. It's either Burns or Marchand. I tend to favor Marchand.
He's my favorite hockey player and I'm just going to tell you to try to think objectively.

How can you not even mention Crosby?

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02-27-2017, 12:46 AM
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Is this thread a troll? Lmfao he isnt even close to the best player in the world. Maybe the best dirtiest player in the world but not the best player in the world.

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02-27-2017, 12:49 AM
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What?



He's my favorite hockey player and I'm just going to tell you to try to think objectively.

How can you not even mention Crosby?
Marchand has a couple less points than Crosby. Marchand has the same amount of game winning goals as Crosby. Marchand two less PPP, but 5 more SHP. They have the same +/-.

Meanwhile, Marchand is on the best CORSI line, one of the best penalty killers in the league (both defensively and scoring), and has a better possession differential.

Crosby isn't a player you can put on the ice in every situation. Marchand is. I prefer a player I can always use. It's why I've always held players like Giroux, Bergeron, Toews, Kopitar, and Kesler as better than Crosby. This year, that includes Marchand, and this year it's not even close.

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02-27-2017, 12:52 AM
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Lol at all those guys better than Crosby lmfao. You'd be a pretty bad GM if you don't take Crosby over all those guys. None of those players have dominated the NHL to the extent that Crosby has for the past decade plus. If you think of all players Kesler is better than Crosby then idk man that's some other level crazy I feel. You should probably not post when your that intoxicated not healthy.

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02-27-2017, 01:03 AM
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He's first in PPG with his 3 points today.

Crosby is the defacto. Crosby could have a 3 point month and would still "be the best". Am I right?

How does a player who is
- #1 in goals
- #1 in GPG
- #1 in points
- #1 in PPG

in 2017 year not be allowed to "be the best player in the league"? Because his face looks like a rat to some shallow people? Or that his demeanor is that of a pest?

It doesn't make sense.

Sid putting up those stats = top 5 all time
Marchand putting up those stats = still not allowed to be considered
So if we did a poll every so often judging simply stats, by this logic the best player in the world would change quite often. I personally would but him in the top twenty but saying he is the best after a 2 month period is silly, It's like saying in November that Montreal is the best hockey team in the world with the 2 hot streaks they started this season and last season.

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02-27-2017, 01:03 AM
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He was also the best player in the world in the 2011 Stanley Cup run by the Bruins.
You wish.

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02-27-2017, 03:38 AM
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You wish.
Yeah, it's hard to miss seeing a 6'9 defenseman. But then again, there's a lot that's not been seen here.

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02-27-2017, 04:00 AM
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How? Marchand is torching those guys.

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Well, he's a winger with less points than any of them. So I don't see how he's torching them.

He was definitely elite last year though, he had 37 goals...

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02-27-2017, 04:08 AM
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Its McDavid still, he drives offense on that Edmonton team. No other player currently (with an ample amount of games) comes close to his involvement in his teams offense with 40%.
Can you list who was the best throughout the years using "involvement in his teams offense" as the measurement.

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02-27-2017, 04:16 AM
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Crosby isn't a player you can put on the ice in every situation. Marchand is. I prefer a player I can always use. It's why I've always held players like Giroux, Bergeron, Toews, Kopitar, and Kesler as better than Crosby. This year, that includes Marchand, and this year it's not even close.
Always great to hear from the cool "offense isn't everything" crowd. They are just so indifferent to overwhelmingly dominant offensive stats, awards, and peer recognition that they must know something the rest of us don't.

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Always great to hear from the cool "offense isn't everything" crowd. They are just so indifferent to overwhelmingly dominant offensive stats, awards, and peer recognition that they must know something the rest of us don't.
Yeah man, Kesler is better than Crosby lol

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I wouldn't go as far as best player in the league, but he is definitely one of the very best wingers in the game. The way he's playing lately I see him getting 85+ points while being a great defensive player and a PK weapon. Also signed to a steal of a deal for everything he brings.

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Your logic is all over the place...

You are constantly saying he is the best right now because of his 2 month stretch, but keep bringing up his Stanley Cup performance from 2011.

Either say he has been the best player in 2017 so far (could have an argument there) or say you think he is the best since coming into the league (not a chance).

You can't pick an choose what times in someones career that they were good and ignore all the rest.

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02-27-2017, 05:33 AM
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He's the best in the world in 2017. Not close...
You keep repeating "2017" over and over... It's two months... It's a fantastic stretch of hockey he played, but the moniker "best in the world" is a two horse race: Crosby and McDavid.

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Marchand isn't even the best player on his own team.
He is on pace to be ppg or more. For the Bruins, that last happened in 2008-09 (Marc Savard, 88 points). If that doesn't clearly say best player on the Bruins, I don't know what could.

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It's a stretch to call last year elite
6th best goals scored (2nd overall for Canadian players), tied 1st for 5v5 goals (31. Tied with Ovechkin) says elite to me.

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02-27-2017, 05:50 AM
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He may just be the best player so far in 2017 but obviously that's too small of a sample size to make a statement like this.

I do think he is a top 10 hockey player in the world, though. And has even surpassed Bergeron as the best one on the Bruins in my eyes - Marchand is great defensively as well, and just so much more explosive and unpredictable offensively.

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02-27-2017, 05:56 AM
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You keep repeating "2017" over and over... It's two months... It's a fantastic stretch of hockey he played, but the moniker "best in the world" is a two horse race: Crosby and McDavid.



He is on pace to be ppg or more. For the Bruins, that last happened in 2008-09 (Marc Savard, 88 points). If that doesn't clearly say best player on the Bruins, I don't know what could.



6th best goals scored (2nd overall for Canadian players), tied 1st for 5v5 goals (31. Tied with Ovechkin) says elite to me.
He was 4th in even strength goals with 27, and tied with Ovechkin for non-PP goals with 31, which I'm guessing you're thinking of. 7 of those even strength goals though we're 3 on 3 or empty netters. I'm not sure when goals became the only metric of offense, but he was also 35th in points. I would consider the top 10ish forwards in a given year to be elite. I don't see how he fit into that last year, though he was probably top 20, hence it being a "stretch"


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I can understand the hyperbole though. He brings pretty much everything into the table. If someone thinks he is the best, I'm fine with that, everyone has the right to have their own perspective at things. It's boring to have just one, isn't it?

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How? Marchand is torching those guys.

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Since when does one player doing better during a particular time of year suddenly earn them the title of the best player in the world? Come on.

That said, Marchand is absolutely underrated, for sure.

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02-27-2017, 07:58 AM
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Always great to hear from the cool "offense isn't everything" crowd. They are just so indifferent to overwhelmingly dominant offensive stats, awards, and peer recognition that they must know something the rest of us don't.
Miss the part where Crosby isn't overwhelmingly dominant offensively compared to Marchand this year? Which was the whole point?

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Great player but I could easily think of 20 guys I'd rather have than Marchand.
I can think of maybe 5. Marchand is grossly underrated, but not the best in the world.

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Boston has become spoiled with all the winning their teams do...

But you have B fans literally saying they would rather have Marchand than Crosby....just insane.

I lived in Boston and it is very insular, insanely biased torwards their own- so I believe these fans truly think BM is the best in the world.

I would love him on my team, but answer is very much a no.

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