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Quebec Nordiques: expansion or relocation

View Poll Results: Will Quebec City get a team via expansion or relocation?
Expansion 32 8.96%
Relocation 256 71.71%
QC will not get an NHL team 69 19.33%
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04-20-2017, 06:42 AM
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But Quebec has a beautiful arena and an ownership group, they are in good position to land a franchise.
Do they really have a ownership group? Or did the city just sold control and naming rights of the new arena to a corporation that gave up on the idea the moment the ink dried.

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04-20-2017, 06:46 AM
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Do they really have a ownership group? Or did the city just sold control and naming rights of the new arena to a corporation that gave up on the idea the moment the ink dried.
Thats exactly what I think. What other conclusion we can make when they host MTL for two pre season games. Total lack of respect to the die hard Nords guys.

Quebecor are now seen like traitors to the point lots want someone else then Quebecor bid for a team now.

Lets be honest, since 1995, never never we saw a positive sign towards the return of the NHL in Qc.

It doesnt work, period.

Will not happen.

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04-20-2017, 08:13 AM
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As far as alignment/time-zone issues go... how come Baseball and the NBA never seem to have these problems?
They're not playing a sport that's extremely difficult to play in warm weather. People tend to follow the sports they play as kids, and until fairly recently, hockey wasn't a strong enough presence as a youth sport in the American south and west to develop interest.

As a result, there aren't many rich men willing to put an NHL team in their city on spec, so the places that have rich hockey histories are mostly in the Eastern time zone. This limits the number of rivals and powerful draws in the Central, Mountain, and Pacific, so we have a heavily lopsided league.

(There are several dozen more answers to this question, but this is one.)

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Do they really have a ownership group? Or did the city just sold control and naming rights of the new arena to a corporation that gave up on the idea the moment the ink dried.
Oh I'm sure their aspirations & ambitions are real enough however there are obviously some obstacles unique to Quebecor & specifically Peladeau that may or may not be insurmountable so its worth looking at, talking about.... I'm referring quite specifically to the long running competition & enmities he & earlier his father has had & continues to have with the Molsons, Bell & other competing interests in the province.... for example; in 2009, stung by Molsons purchase of the Canadiens, Peladeau politicizes the situation, another poison dart at the Molsons stating he "would have preferred the Montreal Canadiens be based on a Quebecois identity". The clear inference being that as the Molsons were/are pillars of English Quebec that they were therefore "not Quebecois enough", not worthy to be owners of so important a Quebec cultural & sports institution. Then in 2011, he, or rather through Quebecor, attempted to block the construction of Place Bell in the Montreal suburb of Laval, a 10K seat arena in which the Canadiens will be housing their AHL franchise. Failed block of course but like a lot of other actions & comments he's made about the Molsons & Bell over the years, leading with his elbows, hot headed... and despite Molsons denials & publicly stated support for a return of the Nordiques one really does have to wonder just how genuine that support really is. Could be that yes, they totally support the return of the Nordiques, they just dont support a Quebecor & Peladeau ownership of the team so when they claim they'd love to see the club's return, its a half truth. As most PQ based posters are well aware, this Molsons/Peladeau rivalry goes back years, multiple fronts. Telecom, cable, print media, broadcast, labor, on & on. Its not a stretch, not tinfoil hat conspiracy to take a real hard look at whats going down here & disregard that dynamic, possible roadblock. Only problem is proof. Like trying to nail Jello to the wall. Molson's certainly wont admit to it publicly and I can well imagine the NHL BOG's aware of this situation not about to make it public. Peladeau & Quebecor, Mulroney politely turned away with a vague promise, told to behave & play the game or they'll never get in. The Molsons & the NHL hoping Peladeau gets tired of waiting, goes away, then his successor's getting in.... Its possible.... but... the arena deal... that would have to be sorted.


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2 habs preseason games have been announced for september at the Colisée Vidéotron (One vs the Leafs and one vs the Bruins). I guess it's over for next year.

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2 habs preseason games have been announced for september at the Colisée Vidéotron (One vs the Leafs and one vs the Bruins). I guess it's over for next year.
It's been discussed on the last page. In 2011, the Lightning and Blues had a preseason game scheduled in Winnipeg which they eventually had to move to Orlando. Still too much all-around volatility to count anything out, IMO.

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04-20-2017, 02:09 PM
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What hurts me the most is that evenko, Habs and Goeff Molson himself are ALL PROUD to give an opportunity to Habs fans from Quebec to see a hockey game in their brand new arena.

But behind closed doors, that ****er (Molson) shuts every opportunity Quebec City gets to have a team.

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04-20-2017, 03:54 PM
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What hurts me the most is that evenko, Habs and Goeff Molson himself are ALL PROUD to give an opportunity to Habs fans from Quebec to see a hockey game in their brand new arena.

But behind closed doors, that ****er (Molson) shuts every opportunity Quebec City gets to have a team.
Why wouldn't he? Nobody in Montreal cares about Quebec City.

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Why wouldn't he? Nobody in Montreal cares about Quebec City.
They will care when molson is boycotted...

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They will care when molson is boycotted...
... gotta prove it MM and after the leagues previous experiences in that regard... totally closed ranks.

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04-21-2017, 08:15 AM
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Why wouldn't he? Nobody in Montreal cares about Quebec City.
Publicly claiming it is hard tho, ain't it ?

Shows you how much they don't care about Quebec City.

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They will care when molson is boycotted...
Well this is not the 80s and the Molson family does not own a beer business anymore. Boycotting BCE(Bell) who own 15% of the habs and a bloody big chunk of MLSE would probably have a bigger effect.

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