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03-15-2017, 05:22 PM
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Or maybe not! Didn't even see the announcement about them leaving the KHL, real shame.. I guess i'll just keep following the league and see what happens


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I know it is different for some people, but to me it is puzzling how people be true fans of the team from a city they have no connection to.

People in Russia being fans of Barca or ManU are nuts to me.

I also can't understand how one could possibly be a fan of two teams in the same league. To me even in different leagues.

There can be only one team. It is my home town team. Anything else is somethng I can't understand.

Doe example I will never be a fan of any NHL team. Why? What is my connection to any of them?

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I know it is different for some people, but to me it is puzzling how people be true fans of the team from a city they have no connection to.

People in Russia being fans of Barca or ManU are nuts to me.

I also can't understand how one could possibly be a fan of two teams in the same league. To me even in different leagues.

There can be only one team. It is my home town team. Anything else is somethng I can't understand.

Doe example I will never be a fan of any NHL team. Why? What is my connection to any of them?
I don't think i'd ever call myself a "fan" of a KHL team but its nice to have a team to "follow" just to see how the team is getting on and what the results are, that way its easier to follow the league.

I am however a fan of the Blackhawks, I'm not from Chicago but my connection is the logo is the same (nearly) as my local club. I think its different for everyone but most people are fans of an NHL team

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I know it is different for some people, but to me it is puzzling how people be true fans of the team from a city they have no connection to.

People in Russia being fans of Barca or ManU are nuts to me.

I also can't understand how one could possibly be a fan of two teams in the same league. To me even in different leagues.

There can be only one team. It is my home town team. Anything else is somethng I can't understand.

Doe example I will never be a fan of any NHL team. Why? What is my connection to any of them?
What is my connection with a bunch of wealthy strangers from all around the Northern hemisphere playing in my hometown for some years? A connection is when your friend or relative plays for a certain team. After that, it's all choice, and to choose a team that plays in your home town isn't essentially different from choosing a team with a uniform you like or a team that plays enjoyable hockey. Also, most Russian cities don't have a professional KHL or RFPL team any way.

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03-16-2017, 01:54 AM
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I don't think i'd ever call myself a "fan" of a KHL team but its nice to have a team to "follow" just to see how the team is getting on and what the results are, that way its easier to follow the league.

I am however a fan of the Blackhawks, I'm not from Chicago but my connection is the logo is the same (nearly) as my local club. I think its different for everyone but most people are fans of an NHL team
Why would I be a fan of a NHL team? I have no connection to any of them. I don't really care who wins that cup that is pretty meaningless to me. It is definitely below any major international tournament.

I only follow russian players in the NHL. Other than that the NHL is league that prevents me from watching those players play in person.

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03-16-2017, 02:25 AM
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What is my connection with a bunch of wealthy strangers from all around the Northern hemisphere playing in my hometown for some years? A connection is when your friend or relative plays for a certain team. After that, it's all choice, and to choose a team that plays in your home town isn't essentially different from choosing a team with a uniform you like or a team that plays enjoyable hockey. Also, most Russian cities don't have a professional KHL or RFPL team any way.
1.RFPL is no sport. I don't like to watch football at all, but I acknowledge that top football leagues are a thing. RFPL is not.

2.Many KHL teams have fans from a larger area than the actual city for which the team plays. There are also different types of connection. Tatars from all over the country may be AkBars fans. That I totally understand, especially with the organization policy trying to develop home town talent and also going for ethnical tatar free agents that are originally not from Tatarstan(Billyaletdinov, Zaripov, Batyrshin, Galimov) if they fit in. I have tatar friends who would travel several hundred miles to watch an AkBars game. There is an AkBars fan club in Moscow. There are 6 ethnic Tatars on the AkBars roster now not including the head coach. Tatarstan born or not, they are not exactly strangers here. AkBars has 6 defencemen born and raised in Kazan. Another 4 homegrown forwards. Strangers? I lived in the same city with those guys walked the same streets. Of course it wouldn't work without signing foreigners and players with orginally no ties to Kazan or Tatarstan. Doesn't change the facts. In a way they are mercenaries of coursem but as in all professional sports after a while even with them there are growing ties. But we all understand they are not exactly at home here, so when such a major figure for the franchize like Morozov retired it was understandable he has a place elsewhere he'd like to got to now.

3.Every city has a different story obviously. For example might be complicated for Chelyabinsk. There is probabaly only a handful of KHL teams without Chelybinsk natives on the roster.

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What does it mean, to support your team?

- you buy hats, dress or other commodities with their logo?
- you fight in the woods, cities again other supporters?
- you speak every day with other guys whats new, how did they play and shoudl they do in future?
- or you only watch game in your TV and when its boring, you switch to another show?

By me, it is only option Nr. 4. In regard of Slovan Bratislava.
Then a follow also others Slovak players in other temas, how many points they have.

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Growing up I was always a fan of Sokol, and later on Khimik. Now i find myself supporting Sibir. Modest budget, cool city. They always seem able to do more with less.
Sokol? Krasnoyark, Kiev?

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I know it is different for some people, but to me it is puzzling how people be true fans of the team from a city they have no connection to.

People in Russia being fans of Barca or ManU are nuts to me.

I also can't understand how one could possibly be a fan of two teams in the same league. To me even in different leagues.

There can be only one team. It is my home town team. Anything else is somethng I can't understand.

Doe example I will never be a fan of any NHL team. Why? What is my connection to any of them?
I agree, I'm in Manchester and the amount of die hard Manchester United fans from all corners of the world is surprising. However some of them that travel to the city often and go to the games I can understand.

Like me with Riga. I'm in Riga a lot, I'm at Dinamo games all the time so a connection i feel has been grown now.

But as you say with the NHL. I'd say i support Boston, but only cause I liked their colours when I was young and I try to follow them but I know i have zero connection to them, i've never been for example.

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Been following Jokerit, my hometown team, since 1989, when they played in the 2nd tier and rookie Teemu Selšnne was the best scorer. Lokomotiv is another favourite, mainly due to the terrible accident and the way they have rebuilt their team. They're one of the most entertaining teams in KHL in terms of playing style.

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I know it is different for some people, but to me it is puzzling how people be true fans of the team from a city they have no connection to.

People in Russia being fans of Barca or ManU are nuts to me.

I also can't understand how one could possibly be a fan of two teams in the same league. To me even in different leagues.

There can be only one team. It is my home town team. Anything else is somethng I can't understand.

Doe example I will never be a fan of any NHL team. Why? What is my connection to any of them?
Easy. You follow a certain player, then you start liking his team, until you love the team more than you love that player. Semin, Backstrom and Ovechkin made me a Caps fan, and I'll be a Caps fan even after they all retire or get traded.

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03-16-2017, 11:55 PM
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Easy. You follow a certain player, then you start liking his team, until you love the team more than you love that player. Semin, Backstrom and Ovechkin made me a Caps fan, and I'll be a Caps fan even after they all retire or get traded.
No, it can't happen to me. The moment Russians leave Washington I will stop following them like I stopped following the Red Wings.

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No, it can't happen to me. The moment Russians leave Washington I will stop following them like I stopped following the Red Wings.
I guess your nationalistic bias sets you apart from other hockey fans, nothing wrong with that. For me, I don't care if my favourite player is Canadian, Russian or Vietnamese. I like them for the way they play, not for their birthplace.

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I guess your nationalistic bias sets you apart from other hockey fans, nothing wrong with that. For me, I don't care if my favourite player is Canadian, Russian or Vietnamese. I like them for the way they play, not for their birthplace.


What is my nationalistic bias? It is a sport. Sports is about competition. Competition only matter if you can connect emotionally with one side. Fellow Russians do that for me. But is all about being interested in the outcome of a competitive event. But actually only with national teams. I really don't care which team wins the Stanley Cup. Because a couple of Russians on the team isn't enough emotional connection for me to care... just like some players I like russian or not being on the team.

P.S. And nationality is not birth place. There are rootless cultures out there(I do not mean national cultures), but they will fail. There is no tree without roots. Somebody is russian not by birthplace but by his ancestrial cultural roots. there is much more to it han being born in the same region of the Earth.


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What is my nationalistic bias? It is a sport. Sports is about competition. Competition only matter if you can connect emotionally with one side. Fellow Russians do that for me. But is all about being interested in the outcome of a competitive event. But actually only with national teams. I really don't care which team wins the Stanley Cup. Because a couple of Russians on the team isn't enough emotional connection for me to care... just like some players I like russian or not being on the team.

P.S. And nationality is not birth place. There are rootless cultures out there(I do not mean national cultures), but they will fail. There is no tree without roots. Somebody is russian not by birthplace but by his ancestrial cultural roots. there is much more to it han being born in the same region of the Earth.
You're mistaken my friend. I didn't criticize you, I said there was nothing wrong with rooting for player X or Y because that player hails from the same background as you. You connect to players because they're Russians, and that's fine. So the only way you can invest yourself emotionally in sports is by being from the same background as a player or members of a team.

See, I connect to players in many other ways. Here, I'll give you some examples. I like Alex Ovechkin because besides being an exciting hockey player, he is also a great human being who was unfairly criticized early on in his career. I liked him, Semin and other players from the Capitals for similar reasons, so I became a fan of the team. I just want to see them succeed.

Another example was PK Subban. While he's a great hockey player, I didn't think much of him in his first few years in the NHL. Then, he showed that he has a great heart and made significant contributions to the Montreal community. I thought I couldn't appreciate more than I already did, until the media blamed him unfairly for the team's failures and he got chased out of town like a criminal.

I recognise myself in these guys. We have the right intentions but we're often misunderstood because we come from a different culture.

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