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03-16-2017, 08:22 PM
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Calder Race 2016/2017 #16

16th verse, same as the first
a little bit louder and a little bit worse



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Nylander is the victim of a very strong rookie class and isnt getting the recognition he deserves. 50pts now in 67 games. All talk of moving him for a dman should just stop

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Nylander is the victim of a very strong rookie class and isnt getting the recognition he deserves. 50pts now in 67 games. All talk of moving him for a dman should just stop
Everyone knows he's good.

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03-16-2017, 08:29 PM
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Marner moving one assist closer to that Leafs record. 2 to go.

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Marner has my vote for second place. He has been the leafs best player after their first game.

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Another goal by Werenski.......

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Patty just refuses to run away with it.

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Laine played poorly again.

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Laine played poorly again.
Did you even watch the game? He didn't play poorly. Not his best game, but a lot of smart plays here and there. You simply cannot score every game. He made some very good passes also, but today none of them were assists (well, that one was for a while, but was challenged as an offside, so did not count).

Laine should play more aggressively though on o-zone. There was again couple of times he could've played more "risky", when they had both of their d-men anyway standing back. One particular case when Ehlers made a no-look pass to the front of the net, Laine really should have been there, but he was just playing safe and staying closer to the blue line.

Btw. tonight there was one occasion when Wheeler did come to the bench early on PP. That was when the game was on Jets d-zone and there was even a slight change to score for the opponent :-). Otherwise he was always the last man to change on PP, and he changes for Laine.

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Btw. tonight there was one occasion when Wheeler did come to the bench early on PP. That was when the game was on Jets d-zone and there was even a slight change to score for the opponent :-). Otherwise he was always the last man to change on PP, and he changes for Laine.
Yup Yup. Great many times it has been the mighty Captain who, after tiring himself, slowly skates to change so Laine can get a few seconds of PP time.

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Patty just refuses to run away with it.
Laine or Matthews need to go on a tear. I'm convinced they elevate their play, when they see the other guy taking off.

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Laine played poorly again.
Overall he was okay at times quite bad but pretty good other times.

Had some really good defensive plays. That crisp long crease pass to ehlers (who shots it into middle of net instead of big opening) had a couple of chances but far too few in my opinion. He also had an assist taken away due to offside challenge, which btw was an awesome play by the line. Had 2 good opportunities. Made some smart plays and had an really good solo rush towards the goal but shot high.

So that was the good, may have missed some.

Now the bad.

Got stripped (giveaway?) Of the puck which led to a goal. Looked slow at times, slow legs compared to normal. Seemed to have hard time to contain pucks at times (could be unlucky bounces on some). Did not get any shots or pp time on the pp. Missplayed some puck and just seemed to have a bit of an off games but nothing terrible. I may have missed some. his line Spent alot of time in own zone and i dont know if that was due to islanders effectively shutting down his line or due to him or due to linemates.

Seemed as most of his focus was on defense today.

Overall a mediocre game could have had a goal or two. Nice to see the rest of the team step up.

Poorly is a bit harsch, is it because he did not end up on the scoreboard? Not good not bad mediocre i would say.
Bad in terms of offense and pretty good at defense in some key moments.

The momentun for him got away in this one due to a couple penalties in the first i think.

Also pp1 unit was out for 1.30 .. on one pp he really neeeds to be given a chance on that unit in games like this.

His icetime was a high 16 minutes so he may have been worse than what i perceived aswell.

Anyway i try to be objective and this is how i perceived the game.


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Laine or Matthews need to go on a tear. I'm convinced they elevate their play, when they see the other guy taking off.
I haven't seen the Jets play in a little over a week, but Matthews is running on fumes. He's still playing pretty well just on skill and smarts alone, but he doesn't have the buzz he had most of the year.

He's out of gas, he's not taking off... Its quickly becoming Laine's to lose now.

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Matthews-Marner would solidify one of them winning it in my opinion. They look so good together when they're on the ice at the same time. If Laine and Matthews slump for any more time, I can see Marner or Werenski coming in and taking it.

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Matthews had no points tonight but he did a great job defensively all game long.

I'm not sure they if they take that into account but man is he mature beyond his age.

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Did you even watch the game? He didn't play poorly. Not his best game, but a lot of smart plays here and there. You simply cannot score every game. He made some very good passes also, but today none of them were assists (well, that one was for a while, but was challenged as an offside, so did not count).

Laine should play more aggressively though on o-zone. There was again couple of times he could've played more "risky", when they had both of their d-men anyway standing back. One particular case when Ehlers made a no-look pass to the front of the net, Laine really should have been there, but he was just playing safe and staying closer to the blue line.

Btw. tonight there was one occasion when Wheeler did come to the bench early on PP. That was when the game was on Jets d-zone and there was even a slight change to score for the opponent :-). Otherwise he was always the last man to change on PP, and he changes for Laine.
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Yup Yup. Great many times it has been the mighty Captain who, after tiring himself, slowly skates to change so Laine can get a few seconds of PP time.
I still find it silly that people always complain that the jets leader in powerplay points needs to gtfo the ice for someone that has 1 powerplay point in their last 20 games. Like Laine is still top 3 among jets forwards in powerplay time, let's not try and place the blame where it doesn't belong shall we? Wheeler averaging 6 seconds of powerplay time per game more than Laine isn't something to cry about.

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I still find it silly that people always complain that the jets leader in powerplay points needs to gtfo the ice for someone that has 1 powerplay point in their last 20 games. Like Laine is still top 3 among jets forwards in powerplay time, let's not try and place the blame where it doesn't belong shall we? Wheeler averaging 6 seconds of powerplay time per game more than Laine isn't something to cry about.
If Patrik Laine has 1 PP point in his last 20 games then that is absolutely something to cry about. Also Wheeler has like what, one more point than Patty on PP? And that's taking into account the missed games.


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I find it hilarious that Werenski has 9 more assists than franchise center Matthews. His +21 is also impressive, 2nd best on his team.

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If Patrik Laine has 1 PP point in his last 20 games then that is absolutely something to cry about.
Ya, maybe, but look at how he's producing outside the powerplay. The "one-dimensional powerplay specialist" argument has been shot dead, and just imagine how much he'll produce when/if the jets actually get a competent powerplay. I'm happy he doesn't have to rely on the powerplay to put up big numbers. Glass half full Also wheeler has 3 more points.

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Matthews-Marner would solidify one of them winning it in my opinion. They look so good together when they're on the ice at the same time. If Laine and Matthews slump for any more time, I can see Marner or Werenski coming in and taking it.
Marner catching up to Laine would make things interesting. The linemates and missed games argument would apply to both.

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Ya, maybe, but look at how he's producing outside the powerplay. The "one-dimensional powerplay specialist" argument has been shot dead, and just imagine how much he'll produce when/if the jets actually get a competent powerplay. I'm happy he doesn't have to rely on the powerplay to put up big numbers. Glass half full
That's the thing though, isn't it? The PP has stayed basically the same for the Jets all season long. And it has sucked. How is it going to become competent without changes? Blow both squads up and build it from from the ground up.


Blearhgghtt. What a **** coach we have.

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Ya, maybe, but look at how he's producing outside the powerplay. The "one-dimensional powerplay specialist" argument has been shot dead, and just imagine how much he'll produce when/if the jets actually get a competent powerplay. I'm happy he doesn't have to rely on the powerplay to put up big numbers. Glass half full Also wheeler has 3 more points.
Thats the thing....he can produce big numbers on the pp now allready they just need to figure out how to get him the puck without being so obvios...they should just have pp2 unit run like caps does for ovechkin... same spot let Laine rip it.

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Marner catching up to Laine would make things interesting. The linemates and missed games argument would apply to both.
Yup. I do think in a similar vain though, Laine has superior line mates (and that's not only from stats but also from the eye test) but it wouldn't surprise me to see Marner catch up in points. Seriously, if he scored 3 points each game for the next 2-3 games, I wouldn't find it surprising. He just has a way of setting up high danger scoring chances at will.

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Yup. I do think in a similar vain though, Laine has superior line mates (and that's not only from stats but also from the eye test) but it wouldn't surprise me to see Marner catch up in points. Seriously, if he scored 3 points each game for the next 2-3 games, I wouldn't find it surprising. He just has a way of setting up high danger scoring chances at will.
You could argue that goals > assists if it ever came to similar point totals but really it's just going back and forth. I would rather have it be a rookie art ross pretty much unless a defenceman REALLY sticks out and Werenski is making a hell of a case for himself.

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Matthews has 0 points in his last 7 games


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