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03-19-2017, 12:04 AM
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I don't recall seeing Strait play. Looking forward to the mayhem tomorrow!

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03-19-2017, 09:26 AM
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In the Moose game I took in Strait was the worst player on the ice and it wasn't even close!

Pretty sad Strait is the number 2 DA-man call up from the Moose, and why does Chevy still have a job as a GM again!
Strait is number #10 on the Jets depth chart.

My order:

1. Trouba
2. Morressey
3. Buff
4. Toby
5. Myers
6. Postma
7. Chiarot
8. Stu
9. Melchiori
10. Strait

I'm curious what team you believe has a better player at #10? No one who slots 2 spots behind Stu is NHL quality, but then again no team has NHL quality stored that far down their depth chart on their farm. Unless the are prospects on ELC's and here is where the concern lies. Who cares if a crappy vet on an expiring contract gets called up? What we should all care about is that the D prospects we do have available haven't developed to the point where we can't even play them in garbage time.

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03-19-2017, 10:16 AM
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Strait is number #10 on the Jets depth chart.

My order:

1. Trouba
2. Morressey
3. Buff
4. Toby
5. Myers
6. Postma
7. Chiarot
8. Stu
9. Melchiori
10. Strait

I'm curious what team you believe has a better player at #10? No one who slots 2 spots behind Stu is NHL quality, but then again no team has NHL quality stored that far down their depth chart on their farm. Unless the are prospects on ELC's and here is where the concern lies. Who cares if a crappy vet on an expiring contract gets called up? What we should all care about is that the D prospects we do have available haven't developed to the point where we can't even play them in garbage time.
Well thanks for the post quantifying my position on a real lack of D depth, six seasons in and all you have to call up is Brian friggin Strait!

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03-19-2017, 10:22 AM
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Poolman and Niku (If he comes over) will hopefully shore up our depth a bit. I'd try to go with 8 dmen on the team again. Chariot and xxx sit in the PB.

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Strait is number #10 on the Jets depth chart.

My order:

1. Trouba
2. Morressey
3. Buff
4. Toby
5. Myers
6. Postma
7. Chiarot
8. Stu
9. Melchiori
10. Strait

I'm curious what team you believe has a better player at #10? No one who slots 2 spots behind Stu is NHL quality, but then again no team has NHL quality stored that far down their depth chart on their farm. Unless the are prospects on ELC's and here is where the concern lies. Who cares if a crappy vet on an expiring contract gets called up? What we should all care about is that the D prospects we do have available haven't developed to the point where we can't even play them in garbage time.
Yes look at that list, 6 guys came from the Thrashers, one was acquired for a Thrasher pick, and one is a UFA signing. Two good ones developed by us in 6 years. 3 on the farm, RHD, draft picks of ours, none get a look. For me it is Kostalek I want to see.

Meanwhile at forward we have Scheifele, Laine, Ehlers, Lowry, Copp, Petan all drafted on the team, Connor, Roslovic, Lemieux, DeLeo as depth. See the iniquity?

Drafting BPA works only if you turn some into assets.

Defensive depth? Montreal is 11-12 deep, Anaheim is at least 10, Pittsburgh 10-11, Washington has Bowey as a call up. Nobody except Buffalo or Detroit, who are developing Hicketts just fine, is as depth poor on defense as us.

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03-19-2017, 10:26 AM
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Well thanks for the post quantifying my position on a real lack of D depth, six seasons in and all you have to call up is Brian friggin Strait!
Enstrom
Trouba
Myers

3 of our top 5 are out. I think we need an upgrade at LHD going forward, but injuries like this would be difficult for any team to address - you're simply not going to have a spare top 6 defenseman lying around after you've hit 3 injuries in the top 5/6.

Strait was still a poor signing though - I'll give you that.

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03-19-2017, 01:21 PM
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Yes look at that list, 6 guys came from the Thrashers, one was acquired for a Thrasher pick, and one is a UFA signing. Two good ones developed by us in 6 years. 3 on the farm, RHD, draft picks of ours, none get a look. For me it is Kostalek I want to see.

Meanwhile at forward we have Scheifele, Laine, Ehlers, Lowry, Copp, Petan all drafted on the team, Connor, Roslovic, Lemieux, DeLeo as depth. See the iniquity?

Drafting BPA works only if you turn some into assets.

Defensive depth? Montreal is 11-12 deep, Anaheim is at least 10, Pittsburgh 10-11, Washington has Bowey as a call up. Nobody except Buffalo or Detroit, who are developing Hicketts just fine, is as depth poor on defense as us.
Just went and looked at today's opponent. Seemed like a good place to start. They have the reputation of having a strong, deep D. After their top 5 they have Olofsson who has shown some potential in the AHL but nothing in the NHL so far to fill out their top 6. Then they have Folin and Nate Prosser who are similar to Stu/Melch/Strait. Their farm has nothing better than what we have, maybe less.

Many teams have much better 8-12 D depth than we do but others are just as bad.

That doesn't excuse the Strait signing. It was simply pathetic. And that pretty much describes our later round drafting of D too unless Niku and Green come through. If that happens it is actually pretty good - for the late rounds. We should have picked 2-3 more in earlier rounds.

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03-19-2017, 06:53 PM
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Thought he was good today. Better than our 6D has been this year.

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Thought he was good today. Better than our 6D has been this year.
he looked good to me.

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Yeah, he was pretty good today. First game I recalled seeing him play.

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He was easily our 3rd best D today and it wasn't even close. Melchiori and Stuart were much worse and thought he was better than Chiarot

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03-19-2017, 07:15 PM
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He was easily our 3rd best D today and it wasn't even close. Melchiori and Stuart were much worse and thought he was better than Chiarot
Ya. Small sample but Stu sucks. Melchiori not an nhler. Strait was okay.

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03-19-2017, 07:27 PM
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Stu really sucked today.

Strait was fine. Good for him to notch an NHL point this season.

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03-19-2017, 07:52 PM
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Stu really sucked today.

Strait was fine. Good for him to notch an NHL point this season.
Strait played steady on limited time.
Stuart is just plain bad

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He was easily our 3rd best D today and it wasn't even close. Melchiori and Stuart were much worse and thought he was better than Chiarot
Chiarot and Strait were a toss up, but agreed Strait was better than Melchiori and way better than Stu.

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Im throughly impressed at just how bad Stu has become. Strait made Stu look bad, and im not sure wether we should laugh or cry at that one.

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Strait was terrible!
Just others were more terrible.

Jets out attempted 11-29 with Strait on the ice. That's a 27.5% Corsi!

Stuart was 13% though, with a +3,-18...

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Strait was terrible!
Just others were more terrible.

Jets out attempted 11-29 with Strait on the ice. That's a 27.5% Corsi!

Stuart was 13% though, with a +3,-18...
Lol, that's pretty much what I saw, third worst D did not mean he was anywhere near good. I thought he was awful.

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03-19-2017, 11:11 PM
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Stu really sucked today.

Strait was fine. Good for him to notch an NHL point this season.

Speaking of Stuart, did you know his NHL contract is front-loaded? That means that next year, the Jets will only be paying him $1.75 million. If we buyout his contract, how much would we retain on the books? Is it 2/3 of $1.75 million?

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Stu ain't going anywhere. He'll be in his same role next year as he is this year. Book it.

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Stu ain't going anywhere. He'll be in his same role next year as he is this year. Book it.
I guess we don't have anyone to replace him with. Too bad Niku is at least a year away from the NHL.

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Stu ain't going anywhere. He'll be in his same role next year as he is this year. Book it.
Well he does have a contract. So yes he's probably the press box rider again next year.

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Strait was terrible!
Just others were more terrible.
This is perhaps the truest statement I've ever read.

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This is perhaps the truest statement I've ever read.
Well I don't want to inflate his ego, but I personally think the Jets should hire Garrett9. It's gotten to the point where I actually trust him, over Jets management.

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Well he does have a contract. So yes he's probably the press box rider again next year.
I could see Stuart taking over Straits role.

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