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03-19-2017, 05:05 PM
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I'm not sure what the issue is, his legs were pretty clearly banged up.

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03-19-2017, 05:06 PM
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It's not a big deal but its fairly obvious there was nothing preventing him from taking the PS.

He's even laughing about it.

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03-19-2017, 05:07 PM
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The sketchy part is trying to send out Gagner to take the shot and hoping that the refs wouldn't notice. I hate when coaches do that kind of crap and I've long thought it should get a delay of game penalty.

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03-19-2017, 05:07 PM
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Well, Anderson wasn't "faking" anything. He went down awkwardly after being taken down, and was shaken up.

So, he wasn't able to take the penalty shot.

Now -- by the time they sorted out the mess about who WAS going to take it, he had probably shaken it off to the point where he was OK to take it, but I think once he's ruled out, he's ruled out.

Is it a little sketchy? Perhaps. I think, personally, there should be a rule -- if a player is unable to take his own penalty shot due to a legitimate injury situation (and you could have a similar rule about a player who's unable to stay on the ice after an icing), he should be ineligible to play for -- I don't know, pick a length of time. Two minutes, five minutes, the rest of the period, whatever. Just to prevent shenanigans.
Fair statement, I agree with the rules being updated to remove the injured player for a certain amount of time before he is eligible to play again

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03-19-2017, 05:08 PM
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Torts didn't cheat, Anderson apparently complained of an injury. Prior to this, Torts let Sedlak take his penalty shot. Sedlak is ok but he is a 4th liner who just returned from injury. The Jackets were up 2-1. No reason to cheat and risk being disciplined.
torts can't make him. anderson wasn't feeling right. not an issue

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Seems like good coaching to me.

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I didn't watch this but it's believable that a person could be banged up enough to not instantly take a penalty shot. Gotta walk it off or whatever for a minute until you can skate properly again.

Edit yeah he hits his knee sometimes you're not injured but it takes a couple minutes
Refs could have stopped it. Puck crossed the line after the net was dislodged. You could have argued that if Prout hadn't taken him out causing him to crash into the net with his knee/ankle that the puck would have went in on it's own (Toronto reviewed that). He definitely was ouchy after he hit the goal

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03-19-2017, 05:09 PM
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It's not a big deal but its fairly obvious there was nothing preventing him from taking the PS.

He's even laughing about it.
How dare there be unexpected facial movement on the Colombot17. Software is supposed to create a frown in the event of an owie.

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Fair statement, I agree with the rules being updated to remove the injured player for a certain amount of time before he is eligible to play again
That makes sense, agree

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It's not really cheating, its just taking advantage of a weak rule.

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As a Devils fan, I don't really care. I think a coach should be allowed to put anyone out for a penalty shot.

Devils lost the game anyways, why bother complaining about it?

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03-19-2017, 05:11 PM
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Anderson wasn't even going to the locker room until Hynes complained. He was totally fine. Fonzy pulled one over on the officials, no question.

Trying to sneak Gagner on beforehand was another layer of farce.

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03-19-2017, 05:13 PM
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It's not really cheating, its just taking advantage of a weak rule.
I agree with this.. though I really hate the idea of faking an injury. End of the day, you have to have this rule and it's impossible to enforce it cleanly as you can't just tell someone they aren't hurt. I think it's incredibly fishy he was suddenly okay after it was over but NHL is not going to get involved in a player health issue.

It's really the Gagner part that is more annoying. That's a clear attempt to cheat and just was a waste of time for everyone involved. Would love to see that be awarded a delay of game penalty.

Couldn't care less as this is a meaningless game but that stuff happens from time to time and it's incredibly annoying.

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03-19-2017, 05:20 PM
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He seemed to be smiling and chilling on the bench, I don't get it. If he isn't a 100%, why is he still in the game. Why let his "injury" progress any worse.

This is an opinion thread where people share their opinions. You're entitled to your own as well, you can stop harassing others, thanks.
Maybe he was smiling because he was happy his team scored a goal on his hard work that led to a penalty shot? He clearly went in VERY hard into the post and was in pain on the ice from the start. If he is not 100% at that moment, then why should his team be penalized and have him shoot anyway?

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03-19-2017, 05:22 PM
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It's not a big deal but its fairly obvious there was nothing preventing him from taking the PS.

He's even laughing about it.
Oh, are you a doctor? No such things as stingers? I guess we could have waited a few minutes and delay the whole game till he's back feeling good again.

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03-19-2017, 05:25 PM
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Oh, are you a doctor? No such things as stingers? I guess we could have waited a few minutes and delay the whole game till he's back feeling good again.
I'm not a doctor, but he did not look to be unable to take a penalty shot to me.

I could be wrong, but that's how it looked to me.

But there is no way to enforce a rule like this, so Torts took advantage.

Like I said, I wouldn't go as far as to call it "cheating"

I compare this to the center wasting some time getting tossed out of a faceoff, or the goalie pretending to have or forcing an equipment issue to buy time.

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03-19-2017, 05:29 PM
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Should change the rule to let whoever they want to take the shot anyways. Cheapie there...
It should be that way. Sometimes, it is better to get the PP than have a bad player get a penalty shot. You aren't rewarding the team who should be rewarded.

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03-19-2017, 05:29 PM
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I would have been fine with this. I think taking a minute or so is "reasonable" time and would be allowed under the rule.

Kinda odd for you to be not hurt and chilling on the bench while the play was reviewed.. then hurt and having to go off into the tunnel but not hurt enough that you have to go into the lockerroom.. then suddenly okay enough to continue playing? If he just needed to rest for a few minutes, why did he have to go into the tunnel at all? Seemed pretty obvious they were just doing it to justify the swap (which is funny considering Cory is terrible at them anyways).

Again, I love teams finding loopholes in the rules and taking advantage of them.. but faking an injury is pretty low. Luckily, I'd much prefer the outcome of today's game as is as a Devils fan so it really doesn't matter.. but this would be pretty controversial if it was in a more meaningful game.
I would probably go walk in the tunnel if I banged my knee. You gotta hobble around for a little bit

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03-19-2017, 05:32 PM
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I guess the announcers were in on it too, given that they said Anderson was banged up, seconds after it happened

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the real question people should be asking is if Dubinsky is a shootout artist

Josh Anderson has more goals and 5th on the Jackets than Dubinsky and that's with playing less minutes

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03-19-2017, 05:41 PM
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I don't like this .... it's somewhat similar to diving in soccer to gain an advantage.

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Anderson clearly is a bit banged up from being tripped at full speed by a Devils player. He shouldn't be forced to shoot if he isn't 100% after that kind of collision

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If you are not cheating you aren't trying hard enough.

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This is ********. If you can't take the penalty shot then you shouldn't be able to return to the game or at least not until the next period. Otherwise, teams can just do this all the time.

The same a similar situation can happen in basketball with free throws and if you can't take the free throws, you can't return in the game. ( I think this is the rule, not positive)


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i think the fact that torts tried to pull a fast one and have gagner take it should be the issue

anderson could have very well been hanged up

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