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What's wrong with Devan Dubnyk?

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03-19-2017, 05:40 PM
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What's wrong with Devan Dubnyk?


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03-19-2017, 05:42 PM
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Those damn dirty Oilers are ruining him

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Fatigue?

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Regressing to the mean, he was never all world to begin with.

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He's killing my fantasy team.

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Metrics that take quality of chances against into account indicate that Dubnyk isn't as great as normal save percentage indicate, but that Wild are terrific at minimizing amount of quality chances per shot.

If one accepts that premise, then you might see a big effect if the team started to play sloppy in that regard all of a sudden. But I don't have the insight into this team to really say anything about whether this might be a feasible theory.

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03-19-2017, 05:59 PM
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Maybe he's not a .943 goalie??

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He was one of the most vocal critics of the new streamlined goalie pants. Perhaps he's finding it a difficult adjustment.

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03-19-2017, 06:55 PM
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.912 isn't that bad for a slump.

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03-19-2017, 06:56 PM
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He was one of the most vocal critics of the new streamlined goalie pants. Perhaps he's finding it a difficult adjustment.
The year he flunked out of Edmonton was also a year they adjusted goalie equipment. He might take more time to adjust to changes than other goalies.

https://www.nhl.com/news/hybrid-icin...13-14/c-684940

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Goalie equipment -- The NHL streamlined goalie equipment this season, reducing the size of the leg pads.

A goalie's leg pads can't go higher on his leg than 45 percent of the distance between the center of his knee and pelvis. The pads can go no higher than nine inches above the knee for goalies with an upper-leg measurement of 20 inches, which is roughly the average number for goalies in the NHL.

The previous rule, which was instituted prior to the 2010-11 season, stated that leg pads could not go higher than 55 percent of the distance between the center of a goalie's knee and his pelvis, and that a goalie with a 20-inch upper-leg measurement could wear a pad that goes no higher than 11 inches above the center of his knee.

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He was one of the most vocal critics of the new streamlined goalie pants. Perhaps he's finding it a difficult adjustment.
If he was bleeding goals around the pants area, sure. But I don't believe that to be the case. Is there a shot chart to where his goals have been coming from over this stretch?

This shouldn't be nearly as difficult of an adjustment as leg pads.

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.912 isn't that bad for a slump.
I think Carolina fans would kill for that high of a SvPct lol

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He's above average but he isn't truly an elite goaltender.

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.762 save % today. You didn't have to watch the game to know he was not very good against the Jets. 6 games in 9 days. May be tiring.

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Overworked because of his team having an incompetent backup.

Also, variance because his start of the season wasn't sustainable.

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If he was bleeding goals around the pants area, sure. But I don't believe that to be the case. Is there a shot chart to where his goals have been coming from over this stretch?

This shouldn't be nearly as difficult of an adjustment as leg pads.
Could be a comfort or mental thing.

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Metrics that take quality of chances against into account indicate that Dubnyk isn't as great as normal save percentage indicate, but that Wild are terrific at minimizing amount of quality chances per shot.

If one accepts that premise, then you might see a big effect if the team started to play sloppy in that regard all of a sudden. But I don't have the insight into this team to really say anything about whether this might be a feasible theory.
Yeah this is pretty much it.

Dubnyk has had the pleasure of playing behind an excellent defense and team that minimizes high quality shots against, and right now the defense and team in front of him suck.

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Wild are gearing up for their annual choke.

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Could be a comfort or mental thing.
Pants have nothing to do with it.

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03-19-2017, 07:34 PM
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I think you need to be at least a 920 goalie to give your team a shot. When he was 940, he was playing out of this world. He'all recover, I'm sure. I think he's at least a 920 keeper.

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He's overplayed probably.

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Overworked because of his team having an incompetent backup.

Also, variance because his start of the season wasn't sustainable.
Agree with both as part of the problem, but I believe a big part of the fatigue issue has been caused by how the coach has handled his goalies this year. He's run Dubnyk into the ground and destroyed the confidence of his backup. It's like he's playing for a regular season title instead of seeing the bigger picture. Kuemper should have started today. You need him to play, and you need a struggling Dubnyk to sit and get a rest. Instead you now have a still-struggling Dubnyk fail to get a rest and tell your backup goalie that you have zero faith in him.

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its the goalie pants!

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If he does rebound from this funk, it will come with pretty good timing.

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