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Another day, another badly blown coach's offsides challenge

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03-19-2017, 08:40 PM
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I haven't seen the full play, so I couldn't say.

If in the gif in the OP he is receiving a pass, then no, he wasn't in control until after the puck was in the zone. If he was carrying the puck up the ice the whole time, then he's obviously offside.
He received the pass as he was turning up-ice and made 2 stick-handles as he entered the zone. He had 100% possession of the puck.

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03-19-2017, 08:41 PM
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Well NHL making sure the Hawks win... probably the worst call I've ever seen.

Here you go Hawks free win.
of course because poor Hawks are in the situation that they need this help from NHL ...

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03-19-2017, 08:41 PM
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Do we actually know when the puck was touched? It's impossible to tell from the angle down the line.
The puck was 5 feet over before Toews was even close to the line.

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03-19-2017, 08:42 PM
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Considering Duchene and that game are the reason we even have this system.. I say its the Avs fault, take off the glasses.
That's a myth. The Avs game was in February 2013. Offside reviews were implemented in the 2015 offseason, 2 full seasons afterward. The real cause was Montreal crying about an OT goal in a playoff game

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03-19-2017, 08:43 PM
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Can't wait to hear the NHLs explanation on this one. Looks very clear to me.
They doubled down on it. The explanation pisses me off more than the actual offside to be honest haha.

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03-19-2017, 08:44 PM
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The puck was 5 feet over before Toews was even close to the line.
Which isn't technically offside until a Chicago player has full possession of the puck.

But I'll defer to the people who saw the play happen; the gif in here is definitely inconclusive. Would like to see a longer video of the play.

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Is that the same linesman that Wideman leveled? Because that guy's brains are clearly scrambled eggs.

I mean, yes, it is the Avs, so nobody cares if we get bent over because our season is meaningless. Still though, give us one goddamn win, if only so our players don't go crazy from losing all the time.

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03-19-2017, 08:45 PM
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Which isn't technically offside until a Chicago player has full possession of the puck.

But I'll defer to the people who saw the play happen; the gif in here is definitely inconclusive. Would like to see a longer video of the play.
Panik stickhandled the puck into the zone. He had full control of the puck. He had as much control as Panarin did last night.

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03-19-2017, 08:46 PM
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That's a myth. The Avs game was in February 2013. Offside reviews were implemented in the 2015 offseason, 2 full seasons afterward. The real cause was Montreal crying about an OT goal in a playoff game
Just a tongue in cheek comment. 2014 Hawks vs Kings, Carter had two offsides goals. Doesn't mean they lost the series because of it. Just need to get rid of this whole thing.

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I just can't believe the owners had a meeting and came to the conclusion that the offsides challenge is working.

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Yeah I don't get that call at all.... still the Avs earned that loss. They didn't have to give up 4 more goals after that one.

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03-19-2017, 08:49 PM
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This **** is going to decide a playoff series. Inexcusable.

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That call also realistically ends the Wild's regular season
Right, because a bad call is why Minnesota has lost five in a row while the Hawks as usual are turning it up when it matters. Unlike Minnesota and their coach, who always crumble when it matters.

And really, a bad call causes you to give up five goals in a period? No wonder Colorado is in last place.

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Definitely offside if you put the two together.

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Yeah I don't get that call at all.... still the Avs earned that loss. They didn't have to give up 4 more goals after that one.
They probably wouldn't have if the refs got it right.

Avs have had a terrible season and are a fragile team. They have a 27 year old AHL goalie. He kinda fell apart after the refs screwed Avs over. Was fine before it.

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100% offside when you put them together. The offside challenge is a complete joke.

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03-19-2017, 08:51 PM
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Yeah I don't get that call at all.... still the Avs earned that loss. They didn't have to give up 4 more goals after that one.
Changed the momentum of the game thats what it did and for a bunch of fragile players on the Avs roster that call did not help. I think Bednar would have called a timeout after Panarin scored but....

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03-19-2017, 08:51 PM
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This is terrible, and I feel bad for Avalanche fans. That's the kind of thing that makes me not want to watch hockey. Playing spoiler to a rival is one of the few fun moments in a losing season. Losing on a bad call (especially one under review for so long!) is just deflating and depressing. I feel like I disagree with the result of plays the go under review more often than not. Just crazy. There's no excuse, that's just a terrible call.

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Yeah I don't get that call at all.... still the Avs earned that loss. They didn't have to give up 4 more goals after that one.
true,

also this goal is absolutely non factor for both teams regarding to the playoffs.Such NHL helping conspiracy is even more joke than usually.

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The Blackhawks aren't subject to the same rulebook as the rest of the league. It's been like this for close to a decade
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Just a tongue in cheek comment. 2014 Hawks vs Kings, Carter had two offsides goals. Doesn't mean they lost the series because of it. Just need to get rid of this whole thing.
I agree. Being "offside" is more of an idea than a status and relic of a time when you couldn't pass the puck forward.

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This is terrible, and I feel bad for Avalanche fans. That's the kind of thing that makes me not want to watch hockey. Playing spoiler to a rival is one of the few fun moments in a losing season. Losing on a bad call (especially one under review for so long!) is just deflating and depressing. I feel like I disagree with the result of plays the go under review more often than not. Just crazy. There's no excuse, that's just a terrible call.
I learned that the Hawks win screws the Wild over in some way so as an Avs fan I feel a little better about the loss right now.

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Avs fan here, and also coincidentally a linesman. Not a pro, but I work junior leagues so I'm not a complete bum.

Believe it or not , it is inconclusive. When the puck comes across the blue line, Toews is absolutely illegally in the zone, but Panik IS NOT TOUCHING THE PUCK. For this brief time period, it is a delayed offside, and *technically* the linesman should have signalled as such, but it was really quick. It is absolutely no different than if Panik had shot the puck in while Toews was in the zone (a delayed offside scenario you are all familiar with).

Once Panik touches the puck again, Toews skate is much closer to the blue line. It looks like his skateblade *may* be touching the outer edge of the blue line, but alas it is INCONCLUSIVE.

The Avs meltdown that followed was a complete embarrassment.

For those of you saying the linesman should be decked by Wideman, give your head a shake, it is petty and immature to say those things.

And for the record I believe they blew the call in the Minnesota game a while back

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This isnt some Hawks conspiracy or the NHL riding for the Hawks. The Hawks got screwed against Minny earlier this year on a similar play. No moby dick riding here its just a horrible call in both instances.

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