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03-20-2017, 11:09 AM
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Bobrovsky leads the league in Wins, SV%, and GAA

I get that there's a lot of reasons for the success of Columbus but goaltending has to be #1 in that regard, to take a nonplayoff team into a Vezina contender is pretty much unheard of. Bobrovsky ever since the World Cup has played like a brick wall and he truly is the best goalie in the world right now. The Vezina belongs to him for a second season.

Beyond all of this, when was the last time a goalie lead the league in Wins, SV%, and GAA in one year?

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He's definitely the team MVP and should be the leader for the Vezina. He's maintained and actually improved upon his great numbers while other contenders like Dubnyk have cooled off a bit as we get late into the season.

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03-20-2017, 11:21 AM
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IMO the Vezina race has changed to:

Bobrovsky
Price
Holtby
Talbot
Dubnyk

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Since I gave the previous OP of a Bobrovsky thread a hard time for suggesting that wins are the most important factor, I'll step up and say that a guy who sweeps these categories absolutely deserves the Vezina. And especially if he's a primary factor in turning around a mediocre team into a contender.

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Wonder what he'd look like on the Flyers

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Unsustainable. A 56 game sample just isn't enough.

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IMO the Vezina race has changed to:

Bobrovsky
Price
Holtby
Talbot
Dubnyk
In the 4 stats that seem to matter when voting happens (W, Save%, GAA, SO):
Bobrovsky: 1, 1, 1, 3 (1.50 average)
Price: 5, 4, 6, 14 (7.25 average)
Holtby: 2, 3, 2, 1 (2.00 average)
Talbot: 2, 6, 9, 3 (5.00 average)
Dubnyk: 2, 2, 4, 7 (3.75 average)

Right now it's definitely Bobrovski. Realistically, Price and Talbot are out unless they go on a monster tear. Dubnyk and Holtby can win it if they pick up up and/or if Bob slows down.

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It's partially Bob, partially the sick CBJ defense.

In NHL 17 I was the Nucks and traded Tanev to the Jackets. (I edit the ratings so they didn't have EA's crappy ones).

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Werenski has also been a factor in the Jackets turnaround, and a major boost to their d-core.

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+1 probably deserved the Hart too. He is more valuable to columbus' success than Crosby to the Pens, McDavid to the Oilers or any other skater for that matter.

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The fact that he is tied for first in save percentage and barely ahead in gaa is nice but that can change in one night

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It's partially Bob, partially the sick CBJ defense.

In NHL 17 I was the Nucks and traded Tanev to the Jackets. (I edit the ratings so they didn't have EA's crappy ones).
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+1 probably deserved the Hart too. He is more valuable to columbus' success than Crosby to the Pens, McDavid to the Oilers or any other skater for that matter.
Definitely yes to the Crosby comparison, but at best Bob is tied with McDavid.

Dragging the Oilers into the playoffs is no easy feat, and McGoliath's rise to the top has been just that impressive. Columbus' success seems to be more of a team effort.

Also, every voter always favors skaters.

How about Brent Burns? What a difficult task to compare different position players.

If the top 3 players in the world were all goalies, would they all get nominated for the Hart? Or would none of them?

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Definitely yes to the Crosby comparison, but at best Bob is tied with McDavid.

Dragging the Oilers into the playoffs is no easy feat, and McGoliath's rise to the top has been just that impressive. Columbus' success seems to be more of a team effort.

Also, every voter always favors skaters.

How about Brent Burns? What a difficult task to compare different position players.

If the top 3 players in the world were all goalies, would they all get nominated for the Hart? Or would none of them?
Has more than 1 goalie ever finished top 3 in voting for the Hart?

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Bob
Talbot
Holtby

If Matt Murray played more he'd probably be #2, but he's got a shot for calder instead.

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Definitely yes to the Crosby comparison, but at best Bob is tied with McDavid.

Dragging the Oilers into the playoffs is no easy feat, and McGoliath's rise to the top has been just that impressive. Columbus' success seems to be more of a team effort.
Talbot is as much to do with the Oilers making the playoffs than McDavid is. You take either one of them away, and Edmonton is continuing their playoff drought. Not saying that he deserves the Vezina (because he doesn't), but I'm happy to hear that some analysts and articles are at least bringing him up (albeit very quickly and is rightly ousted very early on).

Edit: On pace for 75 games played (maybe 74 if they are in the playoffs for sure when there is a back-to-back at the end of the schedule - either way that puts him in elite company, especially when he's also putting up decent numbers), and will likely beat Fuhr's record for most wins as an Oiler

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I think Bob and Holtby are the two that will battle this one out right now.

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Has more than 1 goalie ever finished top 3 in voting for the Hart?
Yes, in 2007 Luongo & Brodeur were 2nd & 3rd.

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With Dubnyk's collapse, I think the Vezina now will be between Bob, Price, and Holtby, with Talbot, Murray and Dubnyk as honorable mentions.

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IMO the Vezina race has changed to:

Bobrovsky
Price
Holtby
Talbot
Dubnyk
Price is not realistically in the picture, outside of name recognition. Price had a stretch of roughly 20 games where he was a .900SV% or below.

Bobrovsky, Holtby, etc have not had that.

Even Dubnyk is experiencing quite a rough patch now.

Bobrovsky is poised to win his second Vezina.

Bobrovsky, Holtby, and Dubnyk in that order. At best, Price gets a nomination [and that would mostly be due to reputation and name recognition]. Price is having a good year. Not a great year.

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Beyond all of this, when was the last time a goalie lead the league in Wins, SV%, and GAA in one year?
Ed Belfour, 1990-91.

He won the Vezina that year, and the Calder, and finished third in Hart voting behind winner Brett Hull and runner-up Wayne Gretzky. Couple o flare-out nobodies.

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Not taking a single thing away from Bob, but the team defense from CBJ is awesome. I feel they are fully committed in their backcheck and great puck support defensively. So just credit to the team as much as Bobo here.

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With Dubnyk's collapse, I think the Vezina now will be between Bob, Price, and Holtby, with Talbot, Murray and Dubnyk as honorable mentions.
Price isn't in the conversation for top 3 this year. He's had nice numbers lately but that period of 20 games or so won't be forgotten about. Regardless of the reason.

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