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03-20-2017, 06:13 PM
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The last time the Blues had a....

I was thinking about our needs at center and wondered when the last time we had a #1C that people thought was Cup caliber. That spurred a more general idea for a thread.

I am hoping that this thread can contain discussions about other "when was the last time we had a (insert a certain type of player or someone who accomplished a interesting feat) type of discussions. Maybe you are interested in a player that scored a goal on his first shot or someone who could dangle + fight middle weights. I am sure people will have some interesting Q&As.

Thoughts?

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03-20-2017, 06:33 PM
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Demitra for center.

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Last Cup caliber #1 center; the last one we had that actually proved it was Gretzky.

I think there's a strong argument to be made that Turgeon and Demitra were good enough to have done it with the right supporting cast, but Gretzky was the last #1 center we had that actually won a Cup. Our talent at the position has been underwhelming(to say the least) since Pav's left (God rest his soul).

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Turgeon was a bonafide number 1 center in my book.

Here's a trivia question that I believe is in the spirit of the thread:

Who was the last Blues goalie to make his Blues debut with a shutout?

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03-20-2017, 06:50 PM
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I think Doug Weight could be the #1C on a cup team if the rest of the team was strong

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Turgeon was a bonafide number 1 center in my book.

Here's a trivia question that I believe is in the spirit of the thread:

Who was the last Blues goalie to make his Blues debut with a shutout?
It's gotta be Lalime, right?

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03-20-2017, 07:25 PM
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Turgeon was a bonafide number 1 center in my book.

Here's a trivia question that I believe is in the spirit of the thread:

Who was the last Blues goalie to make his Blues debut with a shutout?
I'm going with Curtis Sanford.

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Demitra and Weight pop into mind right away. I was too young to watch and appreciate Turgeon when he was on the Blues.

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I wouldn't say that Doug Weight was a Stanley Cup winning calibre centre. Pavol Demitra, Pierre Turgeon, Wayne Gretzky, Adam Oates, Garry Unger, Phil Goyette, Red Berenson.

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03-20-2017, 08:02 PM
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It's gotta be Lalime, right?
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I'm going with Curtis Sanford.
Nice guesses, but ya gotta go back even further.

Chris Osgood debuted with a 1-0 win over the Islanders as a Blue. The Islanders scored about a second after time expired in the third.

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I wouldn't say that Doug Weight was a Stanley Cup winning calibre centre. Pavol Demitra, Pierre Turgeon, Wayne Gretzky, Adam Oates, Garry Unger, Phil Goyette, Red Berenson.
I think you're forgetting a certain HOF'er.

Bernie something, I believe.

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Didn't Weight win a cup in Carolina?

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Didn't Weight win a cup in Carolina?
Yeap.

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I think you're forgetting a certain HOF'er.

Bernie something, I believe.
Bernie Federko .... who? Me forget Ol' Bern? I see him on the Boob Tube just about every other night. Hey! I'm senile! I probably forgot to list a bunch of other great Blues' centers.

Someone once asked me If I was Bill. I hesitated for several seconds and then asked him to "Give me a little time." My name isn't Bill. It's Robb. Shows you what pressure can do. I've forgotten my own sister's kids names, and have to refer to them as "your kids" or "your son" or "your daughter". And yet I've known them for all their lives, about 25 years, and spent 2-3 months living in their house with them every year while they were growing up. So, forgetting to ad Bernie is the least of my problems.

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Didn't Weight win a cup in Carolina?
Was he a major reason why they won? Was he their #1 Line centre that season?

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03-20-2017, 10:54 PM
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Rod Brind'Amour. (However briefly).

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Bernie Federko .... who? Me forget Ol' Bern? I see him on the Boob Tube just about every other night. Hey! I'm senile! I probably forgot to list a bunch of other great Blues' centers.

Someone once asked me If I was Bill. I hesitated for several seconds and then asked him to "Give me a little time." My name isn't Bill. It's Robb. Shows you what pressure can do. I've forgotten my own sister's kids names, and have to refer to them as "your kids" or "your son" or "your daughter". And yet I've known them for all their lives, about 25 years, and spent 2-3 months living in their house with them every year while they were growing up. So, forgetting to ad Bernie is the least of my problems.
Well, given all your years of playing Red Green on television, it's perfectly understandable you'd get forgetful.


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Well, given all your years of playing Red Green on television, it's perfectly understandable you'd get forgetful.

Ha! Ha! I hold in my brains with duct tape! That guy stole my act! I was wearing plaid shirts (Pendletons) before he was born. I was also saying: "Keep your stick on the ice!" before he was born. In fact, that's one of the first things I remember my father saying to me. We had a double - lot backyard rink.

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Not right now but very, very soon the correct answer will be Robby Fabbri.

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Didn't Weight win a cup in Carolina?
That team was also stacked at forward

The sad truth is we've had a lot of #1 caliber centers and many of them we let get away or gave away. Recently I have Demitra and Turgeon, and then Weight. But, guys like Brind'Amour and Gilmour should have had long careers here. The list goes on, but it's too depressing to think about.

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03-21-2017, 07:06 AM
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I like Robb_K's list. Except I would add Doug Gilmour. Teammate, Brain Sutter nick named him "Killer" and he was a gritty two way player who was fun to watch. He played with various NHL teams for 24 seasons. His best NHL season was with the 86-87 Blues were he led the Blues and finished fifth overall in NHL scoring with 105 points and 42 goals. He always could be depended upon during the playoffs.

About the same size a Robbie Fabbri he was drafted in the seventh round by the Blues. He was moved to center durring his initial year which was a smart decision by Blues coach Jacques Demeres. Doug Gilmore played 24 NHL seasons and his number 93 was retired by the Leafs.

And yes, I believe that Fabb's could slot into a 1C or 2C with the Blues. I hope he's currently doing some serious bulking up for next season. I still believe he could be that center we desperately need.

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Didn't Weight win a cup in Carolina?
As their #3 center, not as their #1.
They had Eric Staal and Rod Brind'Amour as a 1/2 punch, Matt Cullen as #3 and then got Weight as a deadline rental(Cullen slid over to the wing to make room).


I think Weight would have been a perfect #2 center on a Cup team, but he wasn't a true #1. He was a very good playmaker/setup guy, but he had no goal scoring instincts when compared to other #1 centers of that era.

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03-21-2017, 08:16 AM
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I wouldn't say that Doug Weight was a Stanley Cup winning calibre centre. Pavol Demitra, Pierre Turgeon, Wayne Gretzky, Adam Oates, Garry Unger, Phil Goyette, Red Berenson.
Nice list Robb. I agree that Doug wasn't Cup caliber. He seemed like a top end #2 or 1B type center to me. He was a strong player and I enjoyed his game, but he seemed a gear too low for me to call him Cup caliber. Staal was the #1 in Carolina.

As for Pavol, he was a terrific player and what a trade to get him. But, he seemed so hit or miss in the playoffs. He got too tentative at times. Still a great player and an even better person.

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Doug Weight wasnt a number one.

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I don't remember Demitra playing center and after checking his NHL page, he's listed as a RW which is exactly what I remember. So why is everyone saying he was a center?

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