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03-22-2017, 03:45 PM
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2016-17 Prospects Thread (CHL, NCAA, Europe) Part II

Updated Prospect Stats HERE






2016 PROSPECT RANKING
RANKPREVCHNGNAMEPOSTEAMDRAFTVOTES
11- Mikko RantanenRWSan Antonio (AHL)#10 overall 2015108 votes, 95.37%
22- Chris BigrasDSan Antonio (AHL)#32 overall 2013116 votes, 48.28%
3n/an/a Tyson JostCPenticton (BCHL)#10 overall 201690 votes, 96.67%
46+2 JT CompherCUniversity of Michigan (Big10)#35 overall 2013 (T)91 votes, 64.84%
55- Nicolas MelocheDGatineau (QMJHL)#40 overall 201592 votes, 71.74%
610+4 AJ GreerLWRouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)#39 overall 201597 votes, 82.47%
715+8 JC BeaudinCRouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)#71 overall 201593 votes, 31.18%
8n/an/a Cam MorrisonCYoungstown (USHL)#40 overall 201684 votes, 47.62%
913+4 Spencer MartinGSan Antonio (AHL)#63 overall 201379 votes, 81.01%
1017+7 Julien NantelC/LWRouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)#204 overall 201476 votes, 36.84%
1111- Andrei MironovDDynamo Moskva (KHL)#101 overall 201561 votes, 47.54%
1221+9 Sergei BoikovDDrummondville (QMJHL) #161 overall 201565 votes, 33.85%
137-6 Mason GeertsenDSan Antonio (AHL)#93 overall 201358 votes, 39.66%
14n/an/a Rocco GrimaldiC/RWPortland (AHL)#33 overall 2011 (T)56 votes, 33.93%
158-7 Duncan SiemensDSan Antonio (AHL)#11 overall 201166 votes, 30.30%
16n/an/a Josh AndersonDPrince George (WHL)#71 overall 201646 votes, 30.43%
1716-1 Will ButcherDUniversity of Denver (NCHC)#123 overall 201352 votes, 36.54%
1827+9 Anton LindholmDSkellefteå (SHL)#144 overall 201459 votes, 42.37%
19n/an/a Nate ClurmanDCulver Academy (USHS)#161 overall 201637 votes, 62.16%
20n/an/a Travis BarronLWOttawa (OHL)#191 overall 201648 votes, 33.33%


2016 HONORABLE MENTION
RANKPREVCHNGNAMEPOSTEAMDRAFTVOTES
HM1n/an/a Adam WernerGFärjestad BK J20 (SHL)#131 overall 201637 votes, 37.84%
HM224+2 Sam HenleyCSan Antonio (AHL)Undrafted FA32 votes, 40.63%
HM3n/an/a Reid PetrykRWSan Antonio (AHL)Undrafted FA33 votes, 39.39%
HM419-5 Troy BourkeLWSan Antonio (AHL)#72 overall 201228 votes, 46.43%
HM5n/an/a Turner ElsonLWStockton (AHL)Undrafted FA29 votes, 58.62%




(And taken from the last thread)

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A little roster gossip
I got back from vacation last night around midnight but it doesn’t really felt like I took much time off given how many Avalanche people I talked to while away. Just some water cooler talk here (aka the rumor mill so don’t take any of this to the bank) but:

-Avs are expecting to sign Butcher when DU’s season ends. Word is Butcher is prepared to sign the ELC the Avs will offer him
-Mironov expected to be officially signed in the next couple of weeks
-Only overage/NCAA UFA I know Avs are connected to right now is the Pionk kid but they won’t get him so it doesn’t matter
-I’ve already chatted with earl about this but KSE is not too happy with Avs FO right now. Might mean changes, might not, just that they’re pissed and embarrassed.
-I had on other thing but my mind is blank so I’ll probably come back and add to this later on
And then later, on the subject of Jost:

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Oh, that was it. Yeah. The Avs are looking to sign him when NoDak is done.
And if Jost would play in the NHL:

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Yeah that would be the plan. Not this year though. Next.

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Hey EB, where did you pull the AJ quotes from? I don't see anything on his, or BSN's, twitter...

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^ Was just about to ask the same.

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Hey EB, where did you pull the AJ quotes from? I don't see anything on his, or BSN's, twitter...
I guess they were on MHH...I don't post over there, so usually when I see a quote attributed to him, I ask him to link me. So, I asked him about it and he sent me a link and I pulled them from there. Given the nature of him saying it was "water cooler talk and to not take it to the bank quite yet", I felt it necessary to post the whole quote (plus, some people just want to read it all themselves). I asked him why he chose the phrase "water cooler talk" and he said that it was all "from the Avs' perspective".

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Tomorrow's BSN podcast should be interesting at least.

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Question about Mironov:

If the Avs sign him now is he eligible for the expansion draft and require protection?

I am not sure if KHL years are counted as professional seasons fr the ED, but it is a professional league.

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Question about Mironov:

If the Avs sign him now is he eligible for the expansion draft and require protection?

I am not sure if KHL years are counted as professional seasons fr the ED, but it is a professional league.
He'd be exempt.

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Has Mason Geertsen's development stagnated?

I was quite excited for him when we initially drafted him and signed him to an ELC, but he doesn't seem to have taken steps forward.

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Are we talking Pionk the RD from UMD? The dude that plowed into UNDs goalie? If so, who are we competing with and how is his game? Unfamiliar with him.

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He'd be exempt.
Is it because of his age?

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Has Mason Geertsen's development stagnated?

I was quite excited for him when we initially drafted him and signed him to an ELC, but he doesn't seem to have taken steps forward.
Sort of. He didn't progress much under Dean and then that stupid fight in the rookie tournament where he broke his hand set him back. He wasn't getting played much so then he decided his ticket was going to be some sort of enforcer and that's not going to work either. The last 2-3 weeks he's been playing more regularly and looking like a defenseman but he's going to have to make some huge steps next year. The guy that's stepped up big time is Boikov, I'm not quite sure folks realize he has a legit shot at the NHL. He's been playing top 4 for several months now.

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Is it because of his age?



Sort of. He didn't progress much under Dean and then that stupid fight in the rookie tournament where he broke his hand set him back. He wasn't getting played much so then he decided his ticket was going to be some sort of enforcer and that's not going to work either. The last 2-3 weeks he's been playing more regularly and looking like a defenseman but he's going to have to make some huge steps next year. The guy that's stepped up big time is Boikov, I'm not quite sure folks realize he has a legit shot at the NHL. He's been playing top 4 for several months now.
Boikov has been very good, big fan of his for quite some time, especially after I saw him on the top pair with Provorov for Russia at WJC. He and Lindholm were my dark horse prospects, so it's good to see them doing well. Both are smart, can play both ways, good passers etc.

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Has Mason Geertsen's development stagnated?

I was quite excited for him when we initially drafted him and signed him to an ELC, but he doesn't seem to have taken steps forward.
I'd say it is safe to say it has. He had an identity crisis coming out of junior (I think he still is to an extent). If he can steady himself into a shutdown, mean SOB I think he can turn things around.

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Are we talking Pionk the RD from UMD? The dude that plowed into UNDs goalie? If so, who are we competing with and how is his game? Unfamiliar with him.
Those are the rumors (I don't know personally). Pionk is a good skater, plays bigger than his size indicates, absolute cannon of a shot, good first pass, above average (but not outstanding) IQ. The guys at Sioux City absolutely loved the kid.

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Is it because of his age?
Euro leagues are exempt under the professional season draft rules until they are under ELC and loaned out. Slide years for Euros in the AHL are also exempt from counting (IE Mikko's season last year doesn't count as a professional season).

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Has Mason Geertsen's development stagnated?

I was quite excited for him when we initially drafted him and signed him to an ELC, but he doesn't seem to have taken steps forward.
I dunno but based on his recent instagram photo he has one ugly golf swing. Spencer MArtin on the other hand is a natural.

Man, social media has changed me as a fan

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Is it because of his age?



Sort of. He didn't progress much under Dean and then that stupid fight in the rookie tournament where he broke his hand set him back. He wasn't getting played much so then he decided his ticket was going to be some sort of enforcer and that's not going to work either. The last 2-3 weeks he's been playing more regularly and looking like a defenseman but he's going to have to make some huge steps next year. The guy that's stepped up big time is Boikov, I'm not quite sure folks realize he has a legit shot at the NHL. He's been playing top 4 for several months now.
Glad to hear about Boikov. He's been my under the radar prospect love for quite some time. I wish I could have seen more SA games this year but I just haven't been able to. It's the least amount of AHL hockey I've seen in the last 5 years.

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I dunno but based on his recent instagram photo he has one ugly golf swing. Spencer MArtin on the other hand is a natural.

Man, social media has changed me as a fan



Glad to hear about Boikov. He's been my under the radar prospect love for quite some time. I wish I could have seen more SA games this year but I just haven't been able to. It's the least amount of AHL hockey I've seen in the last 5 years.
Boikov is the new Gusarov! (hopefully)

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A bit about prospects in the playoffs this weekend

http://www.milehighhockey.com/2017/3...source=twitter

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I was really hoping Geertsen would take a step forward this year. That he hasn't is a big concern, especially since Boikov and Lindholm are now passing him by.

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I was really hoping Geertsen would take a step forward this year. That he hasn't is a big concern, especially since Boikov and Lindholm are now passing him by.
It'd be a bigger concern for me if we didn't have defensemen passing him on the depth chart. But I'm happy with the progression players like Boikov and Lindholm are making - especially Lindholm. I'm not holding out hope that either becomes a full-time effective NHL defensemen but I am cheering for them.

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Thanks for the reply Hench. I wonder who we're in competition with to sign him and when he's supposed to sign. Interesting to me because I've never heard his name or seen anything about where he's going.

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Nice write up TV, do you think it's likely Jost will sign after his seasons done?

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Nice write up TV, do you think it's likely Jost will sign after his seasons done?
That's the rumour by BSN, but it sounds like even if he does sign, he won't play any games for us this season.

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Nice write up TV, do you think it's likely Jost will sign after his seasons done?
Thanks! Yeah, that seems the rumor. I don't think there's much appeal to play in SA to play out the string there, he might if there was the playoffs.

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What happened to Gaertsen?

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Geertsen, even in juniors was a prospect who needed a lot of time to development. I don't think that changed at all once he joined much better players than that in juniors, needs another two years minimum to refine his skills. He should not be rushed and missing the two-ish first months of the season due to a broken hand missed some good development time. Especially for a prospect who needs a lot of playing time to take the next step.

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I don't think they are going to have that kind of patience with him. After two pro seasons you can generally see where the Avs are going with guys.

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