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10-22-2003, 05:03 AM
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Lets Give O'Connell I Stone Cold "H*LL YAH"

The guy this summer says he identified two defenseman in the 1999 draft he wanted- Jillson and Boynton- and get this, because my wife was all over how 'cute' that Barrett Jackman was and said the Broons 'should draft him' I heard he was also on the radar. I think there was one other kid- the Chicago defenseman I think Steve McCarthy??? but anyways these four and certainly Jillson and Boynton were his guys he coverted.

So, imo they are locks to play a looooooong time if they can stay healty. He looks like he'll hit on Toivonen, and Morrisonn and Jonsson you can figure will be in the NHL. The odds are by the time they are 24-25 they may be valuable players- and I would bet one of the two will be very good.

He had the balls to draft Samsonov, and I remember Milbury talking on WBZ on day about passing Sammy and drafting Brewer and how only time will tell if Samsonov can do his magic against the mountainous defenseman that now make up most rosters(great pick btw MM, but when patience isn't one of your traits you end up dealing Luongo, Brewer, passing on Heatley- ouch!)

I wish I wasn't so clueless or I'd post the McKeen's draft grade of D for this years Broons. Go read what Kirk said about Stuart and my buddy who's involved in college hockey and friends with the coach of Col College says Stuart is a man among boys. And we know about Bergeron.....when does the second quarter grades come out- Christmas???

MOC has been accessible and come up with a plan to get the Broons back on top thru scouting and development. He sold JJ on it and it looks like the Hockey Gods are smiling on him.

Jillson (counts as Boston guy imo- they appear to have done a marvelous job getting him to this point from placing in Providence- HUGE, and getting under Whitesides for S & C program); Raycroft, and Bergeron are just the first three

Samuelsson, Hilbert, Zinovjev, Venarksy, Jurcina, Morrisonn may all see time with the parent club and offer flexability in trades as well. I'd bet one of these guys is playing a signifcant role by St Patrice Bergeron Day

Its early but time for Dupes or Steve Harris or someone to give this guy a big TWO THUMBS UP for having a plan and getting some top young talent in here. These Bruins if healthy are for real and can play with any team, any night- sure there may be the occassional blowout loss but all things equal I honestly, actually thought they could play with the Avs and they did and will again.

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well I'll be damned ... it worked...

so that's how you "split a thread"..







I was scared to death DKH


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Stone Cold (and wrestling in general) is so 90's. Get with the times.
Can you change your name to "Wet Blanket"?

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Stone Cold (and wrestling in general) is so 90's. Get with the times.
is this an attack on me?

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The team does seem to be running on all cylinders, and
hopefully it continues.

The real proof comes playoff time.
I don't think JJ will care if they come in 1st place or have
100 + points if they loose first round in the playoffs.


That said MOC has done a good job.
A significant piece at the trade deadline could be
all this team needs.

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okay, let it go...it's been taken care of...


everybody back to the subject at hand..

thanks..

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okay, let it go...it's been taken care of...


everybody back to the subject at hand..

thanks..
Wally, I thought 'our' love for Samsonov was enough...

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Damn! I missed another fight!

I agree DKH; while MOC has done a poor job in money management and player/coach relations, the quality of our draft picks and the improvement of our farm system will be the positive legacy he'll leave behind.

MOC and Sully: Send Jurcina down or play him for crying out loud!

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Damn! I missed another fight!

I agree DKH; while MOC has done a poor job in money management and player/coach relations, the quality of our draft picks and the improvement of our farm system will be the positive legacy he'll leave behind.

MOC and Sully: Send Jurcina down or play him for crying out loud!

Mgmt has had poor money management, but I think they
are slowly rectifing it. Cutting loose Oliwa and McInnis are
the examples I am thinking of.

I think signing Stock to the 2 year deal will be an issue, but
in the scope of things its pocket change.

I don't think Lapointe is MOC doing either so that shouldn't
be held to him.

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Damn! I missed another fight!

I agree DKH; while MOC has done a poor job in money management and player/coach relations, the quality of our draft picks and the improvement of our farm system will be the positive legacy he'll leave behind.
I can certainly agree with that. If you have to criticize, it's only fair to give credit where it's due.

Another issue I have with O'Connell surrounds his judgment. For whatever reason, he and the Bruins take ill-advised risks or depend too much on overachievement and so forth. I think that is partly a product of the culture that exixts in Jacobs organizations. Either way, I think this is what brings us annual teams that feature some kind of fundamental problem that proves deadly in the playoffs. No matter how you dice it, O'Connell has never built a complete team void of terminal weakness. However, that doesn't mean there are no positives.

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I can certainly agree with that. If you have to criticize, it's only fair to give credit where it's due.

Another issue I have with O'Connell surrounds his judgment. For whatever reason, he and the Bruins take ill-advised risks or depend too much on overachievement and so forth. I think that is partly a product of the culture that exixts in Jacobs organizations. Either way, I think this is what brings us annual teams that feature some kind of fundamental problem that proves deadly in the playoffs. No matter how you dice it, O'Connell has never built a complete team void of terminal weakness. However, that doesn't mean there are no positives.

I agree here, but I think each year MOC is getting a little better
and reducing his "If this happens" we'll be set for the year attitudes.

I beleive he had the goaltending figured out this year, unlike last
year. Last year he was just hoping it would work out. This year
he knew Raycroft would be a good backup and possibly a #1.
He also brought in Potvin, maybe late in the off season, but I
imagine MOC knew he was going to be bringing in Potvin, Burke, or
something similar to help Raycroft.

The D was pretty well set and letting Berard stew is no great loss.
He got Boyton into camp in time for the season too.

The only big IF going into this season was the 2nd line center.
He seemed to have a plan in that too, hoping either Hilbert or
Zino would step up. As it turned out Hilbert was hurt and Zino
had travel issues.

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I beleive he had the goaltending figured out this year, unlike last year.
Good points all around, but I think he also got lucky with the Cat, and it still remains to be totally proven. He hadn't played since last January, so he was rolling dice on whether or not he'd be up to it.
But he definitely has the personality that Shields was lacking to be part of a good tandem of GKs.

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