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07-15-2017, 11:18 AM
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habs will NEVER EVER win anything with plecanecs the cancer in the room
look at who was the common denominator in numerous player issues over past years on the team and look who the " veteran" cancer was...
You are very much on to something here but singling out Plek leaves others absolved.
The truth was being speculated to as much as 3-4 years ago.
When the level of commitment is not evident in lettered individuals at crunch time you can't possibly have a worse situation from a team perspective.

We are still there.

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Plekanec making it to the NHL18 preview clip, but not at his best.



Or, maybe that is his best.
Wouldn't say it's his best. But I'd say it's not inaccurate. These games are getting more realistic as they go.

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He had absolutely 0 chances, even if he was consistently getting his usual 55-60 points a year.
lol ! sarcasm ....

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I've been lucky enough to see 2 cups but this might be my favourite goal with my favourite assist:


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I've been lucky enough to see 2 cups but this might be my favourite goal with my favourite assist:

This video made me sad.

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It's gonna be a bounceback year for Plekanec, I can feel it

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This video made me sad.
Why? Because he scored in a game they would ultimately lose? Then Boston goes on to win the Cup. Only reason that makes me sad.

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It's gonna be a bounceback year for Plekanec, I can feel it
Contract year too. Hard to imagine Pleky starting this year the way he did last year.

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It's gonna be a bounceback year for Plekanec, I can feel it
He can't be any worse than he was. It was a seriously disappointing year for him last season.

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The only theory that leaves semi optimistic about Plekanec bouncing back is the theory that he was simply tired of MT and wasn't giving it all this year. He did play a bit better once CJ took over, that being said, that theory loses its merits when you consider how many open nets he flubbed when he was playing with Radulov.

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The only theory that leaves semi optimistic about Plekanec bouncing back is the theory that he was simply tired of MT and wasn't giving it all this year. He did play a bit better once CJ took over, that being said, that theory loses its merits when you consider how many open nets he flubbed when he was playing with Radulov.
I blame his down year on a latent allergy to turtlenecks.

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Plekanec is getting plenty of exposure from the Red Wings as the latter shows off its new scoreboard at Little Caesars Arena.

https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/li...em/c-290395034

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07-18-2017, 12:12 PM
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The only theory that leaves semi optimistic about Plekanec bouncing back is the theory that he was simply tired of MT and wasn't giving it all this year. He did play a bit better once CJ took over, that being said, that theory loses its merits when you consider how many open nets he flubbed when he was playing with Radulov.
Either way... if this is true, it's not a good thing.

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The only theory that leaves semi optimistic about Plekanec bouncing back is the theory that he was simply tired of MT and wasn't giving it all this year. He did play a bit better once CJ took over, that being said, that theory loses its merits when you consider how many open nets he flubbed when he was playing with Radulov.
Agreed. I do not forsee a good year from pleks, guys as soft as 4 ply toilet paper. Charmin ultra lux

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I feel as though Plekanec has physically worn down over his tenure as a Canadien. He hardly ever misses games and is very durable. That being said, he has a "lot of hard miles" are McGuire would say. The concerning thing for me is not his mobility but his hands. It seems he can't execute the same way he used to. I dont know how someone can lose their hands unless they were injured there repeatedly. I think a summer of rest will do wonders for him, but I also feel as though he may have been slacking in the offseason training department. Perhaps the additions of Hemsky and Jerabek will light a fire in him to train hard and enjoy playing hockey again.

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Scottie is done(because he is playing like gomez and is softer than the facial tissue of the same name.

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I feel as though Plekanec has physically worn down over his tenure as a Canadien. He hardly ever misses games and is very durable. That being said, he has a "lot of hard miles" are McGuire would say. The concerning thing for me is not his mobility but his hands. It seems he can't execute the same way he used to. I dont know how someone can lose their hands unless they were injured there repeatedly. I think a summer of rest will do wonders for him, but I also feel as though he may have been slacking in the offseason training department. Perhaps the additions of Hemsky and Jerabek will light a fire in him to train hard and enjoy playing hockey again.
It is a fair hypothesis. It's funny cuz 4-5 years ago we kept hearing how players like Plekanec always age well and they'll remain effective until their late 30s because he doesn't rely on skills but his IQ. Fast forward to now, he's 34 and he already looks washed up. It's funny because although Plekanec has never been a highly skilled player like the ones we've had the privilege of seeing in the bleu blanc rouge uniform (Kovalev, Koivu, Radulov, Cammalleri, Tanguay, Lang, etc) his vision has really regressed in the last year or so. It's unbelievable how much of a non factor he was for us last season. I was looking at old highlights of his and it's crazy that despite never been injured, his hands have taken a massive hit.

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I feel as though Plekanec has physically worn down over his tenure as a Canadien. He hardly ever misses games and is very durable. That being said, he has a "lot of hard miles" are McGuire would say. The concerning thing for me is not his mobility but his hands. It seems he can't execute the same way he used to. I dont know how someone can lose their hands unless they were injured there repeatedly. I think a summer of rest will do wonders for him, but I also feel as though he may have been slacking in the offseason training department. Perhaps the additions of Hemsky and Jerabek will light a fire in him to train hard and enjoy playing hockey again.
Gretzky commented that an offensive player's hands are always the first to go.

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Oh goodness is he still in Montreal ? Arggg

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It is a fair hypothesis. It's funny cuz 4-5 years ago we kept hearing how players like Plekanec always age well and they'll remain effective until their late 30s because he doesn't rely on skills but his IQ. Fast forward to now, he's 34 and he already looks washed up. It's funny because although Plekanec has never been a highly skilled player like the ones we've had the privilege of seeing in the bleu blanc rouge uniform (Kovalev, Koivu, Radulov, Cammalleri, Tanguay, Lang, etc) his vision has really regressed in the last year or so. It's unbelievable how much of a non factor he was for us last season. I was looking at old highlights of his and it's crazy that despite never been injured, his hands have taken a massive hit.
I think decline hits players like Pleky and Gomez faster in their 30's because their game is build on speed and skating. Once they loose this edge to create time and space, they become very average or worse very fast!

It's all about the skating. If you don't have size and loose your skating edge, you are in major trouble! Lets look at Weber, his game was never build on skating. It's all about being physical and his NHL shot. This is why I feel he will be very effective like Chara was. Same goes with Jagr... how do you think he was able to play into his 40's? Its because of his ability to protect the puck with his size.

This is what happened to Pleky. His skating is not bad. It's just not as good as it once was. His shot totals have taken a major dip as well.

What about Radulov? He protects the puck relatively well so he should be still effective. However, if you look very close to his game at the beginning of the season vs the end, you noticed that he ran out of gas it seemed. He's not the fastest skater but he does protect the puck well, The other teams D were giving him a beating though as he don't have Jagr's size.

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I think decline hits players like Pleky and Gomez faster in their 30's because their game is build on speed and skating. Once they loose this edge to create time and space, they become very average or worse very fast!

It's all about the skating. If you don't have size and loose your skating edge, you are in major trouble! Lets look at Weber, his game was never build on skating. It's all about being physical and his NHL shot. This is why I feel he will be very effective like Chara was. Same goes with Jagr... how do you think he was able to play into his 40's? Its because of his ability to protect the puck with his size.

This is what happened to Pleky. His skating is not bad. It's just not as good as it once was. His shot totals have taken a major dip as well.

What about Radulov? He protects the puck relatively well so he should be still effective. However, if you look very close to his game at the beginning of the season vs the end, you noticed that he ran out of gas it seemed. He's not the fastest skater but he does protect the puck well, The other teams D were giving him a beating though as he don't have Jagr's size.
You seriously noticed Plekanec losing a step? To be honest he seems to skate like he always skated out there...

What was wrong with him is that it's like he forgot how to shoot a puck and make a pass...

It's like something's bothering him mentally.

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You seriously noticed Plekanec losing a step? To be honest he seems to skate like he always skated out there...

What was wrong with him is that it's like he forgot how to shoot a puck and make a pass...

It's like something's bothering him mentally.
It's not that he's forgotten how to shoot or make a pass...it's that he's just not capable of doing either of those things at the level he used to be able too, and with not nearly as much volume either.

I keep telling you, and I know you're just going to pass this off as me hating on him again, but it's not that.

He's just no longer a player who should be relied upon in an offensive role. That doesn't mean he can't be useful to the team in another area, because he can.

But if the Habs are going to depend on him to produce offense for himself and supply chances for his wingers.

They are going to be extremely disappointed

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07-21-2017, 05:22 PM
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There are less skilled players than Plekanec in the Habs organization.

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Plekanec is getting plenty of exposure from the Red Wings as the latter shows off its new scoreboard at Little Caesars Arena.

https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/li...em/c-290395034
And the NHL can't install multiple hi-res cameras to determine properly if a puck crosses the goal line. Freakin' dinosaurs.

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Any idiot could have seen his potential decline coming 3 years ago and made a contingency plan for it. Not Bergevin.

I'm not going to hate Plekanec for slowing down in the manner one would expect from a player of his profile.

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