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03-30-2017, 10:08 PM
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Nothing to do with being tired. Little is his center. Now 21 periods with Little as his center that he has 0G and 0A even strength. Little himself is bringing the kid down - he has 1 point in the last 7 games - an assist and it wasn't even to Laine.

Read this and weep for one of the poorest coach's around:

Scheifele, Laine a special combo for Winnipeg Jets

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/02/2...-winnipeg-jets

Scheifele and Laine a Dangerous Duo

http://thehockeywriters.com/scheifel...dangerous-duo/


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03-30-2017, 10:14 PM
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Nothing to do with being tired. Little is his center. Now 21 periods with Little as his center that he has 0G and 0A even strength. Little himself is bringing the kid down - he has 1 point in the last 7 games - an assist and it wasn't even to Laine.
Maybe these two just aren't suited to play with each other? Early this season someone made a point that playing with Scheif & Ehlers forces Patty to play faster too. That's proba bly very true.

That being said, he did play well tonight. It's been a long drought though. What is it...like 14 games and 2+1? That's not our Patty.. It's pretty sad to see everyone just roll past him in points and goals.

O' well, maybe he'll score 5 against the Senators.


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03-30-2017, 10:28 PM
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Maybe these two just aren't suited to play with each other? Early this season someone made a point that playing with Scheif & Ehlers forces Patty to play faster too. That's proba bly very true.

That being said, he did play well tonight. It's been a long drought though. What is it...like 14 games and 2+1? That's not our Patty.. It's pretty sad to see everyone just roll past him in points and goals.

O' well, maybe he'll score 5 against the Senators.
Ehlers struggled with Little as well. Notice when he was put back with Scheif two games ago he's had two consecutive goals. Quoting from the article above:

"Before being paired with Blake Wheeler and Bryan Little on the second line, Ehlers was tearing it up with Scheifele and Laine, scoring 45 points in 53 games, while Scheifele and Laine were at 51 and 41.....Since the switch 15 games ago (back to Little), his points-per-game has dropped from 0.85 to 0.60.

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03-30-2017, 10:39 PM
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Ehlers struggled with Little as well. Notice when he was put back with Scheif two games ago he's had two consecutive goals. Quoting from the article above:

"Before being paired with Blake Wheeler and Bryan Little on the second line, Ehlers was tearing it up with Scheifele and Laine, scoring 45 points in 53 games, while Scheifele and Laine were at 51 and 41.....Since the switch 15 games ago (back to Little), his points-per-game has dropped from 0.85 to 0.60.
Pretty sad that Laine's struggles have to be blamed on everyone but Laine. It's what has pissed me off the most this season. Laine is a perfect little darling that can do no wrong in many people's eyes. Stop treating Laine like a little b**** who has to be carried by certain teammates, and have him take some responsibility for putting all his chances into the crest of the goaltender or missing the net, which is all he's been doing the past few games with his chances. He's gotten 11 shots on goal the past 2 games, but it's Little's fault he can't put any of them in the net? give me a break lmao, you can be your a** Laine isn't crying and blaming everyone around him.

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03-30-2017, 10:45 PM
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Pretty sad that Laine's struggles have to be blamed on everyone but Laine. It's what has pissed me off the most this season. Laine is a perfect little darling that can do no wrong in many people's eyes. Stop treating Laine like a little b**** who has to be carried by certain teammates, and have him take some responsibility for putting all his chances into the crest of the goaltender or missing the net, which is all he's been doing the past few games with his chances. He's gotten 11 shots on goal the past 2 games, but it's Little's fault he can't put any of them in the net? give me a break lmao, you can be your a** Laine isn't crying and blaming everyone around him.
Yeah Little is a whole lot of help as his center - 1 point in 7 games. And here I thought centericemen were the key to any productive line. Little should be on the trading block. At 30 next year his value is dropping. Time to pop him for a good goaltender.

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Pretty sad that Laine's struggles have to be blamed on everyone but Laine. It's what has pissed me off the most this season. Laine is a perfect little darling that can do no wrong in many people's eyes. Stop treating Laine like a little b**** who has to be carried by certain teammates, and have him take some responsibility for putting all his chances into the crest of the goaltender or missing the net, which is all he's been doing the past few games with his chances. He's gotten 11 shots on goal the past 2 games, but it's Little's fault he can't put any of them in the net? give me a break lmao, you can be your a** Laine isn't crying and blaming everyone around him.
You are correct, of course. Its just that nobody is used to seeing Laine play like this for such a long period of time. I guess its easier to blame someone else.

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Yeah Little is a whole lot of help as his center - 1 point in 7 games. And here I thought centericemen were the key to any productive line. Little should be on the trading block. At 30 next year his value is dropping. Time to pop him for a good goaltender.
Keep irrationally blaming Little for all of poor, poor Laine's struggles. Poor kid needs mommy Scheifele's to hold his hand as he enters the zone eh?

You're embarrassing yourself, but keep spouting your narrative. Maybe someone will agree with you one day.

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Keep irrationally blaming Little for all of poor, poor Laine's struggles. Poor kid needs mommy Scheifele's to hold his hand as he enters the zone eh?

You're embarrassing yourself, but keep spouting your narrative. Maybe someone will agree with you one day.
No need for personal attacks and rhetorical arguments. The facts speak for themselves as the two articles above clearly show. I like facts not rhetoric.

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some guy in another thread said that laine lost his accuracy. what?

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You are correct, of course. Its just that nobody is used to seeing Laine play like this for such a long period of time. I guess its easier to blame someone else.
I'd be worried if he wasn't getting chances. That's not the case. He's getting chances, he's just not finishing any of them. That's on him, and he knows it. He's not blaming anyone else, don't know why anyone else should be.

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Poor kid needs mommy Scheifele's to hold his hand as he enters the zone eh?
Same could be said for Wheeler.

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No need for personal attacks and rhetorical arguments. The facts speak for themselves as the two articles above clearly show. I like facts not rhetoric.
Learn the difference between "facts" and "assumptions." That's all you're doing You conveniently ignore the fact that Laine has had a multitude of chances while playing with Little, and finished 0. 11 shots on goal the past two games, 0 goals. But yeah, it's still not his fault, it's someone else's fault. I'll take you seriously when you start giving Laine some responsibility for his actions and treat him like a professional instead of a baby.

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some guy in another thread said that laine lost his accuracy. what?
He has. Or have you not been watching winnipeg for this last month or so? One goal that was a result of an accurate shot.

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Same could be said for Wheeler.
Wheeler has been putting up points with Little as his center for years, you must be a new fan.

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Learn the difference between "facts" and "assumptions." That's all you're doing You conveniently ignore the fact that Laine has had a multitude of chances while playing with Little, and finished 0. 11 shots on goal the past two games, 0 goals. But yeah, it's still not his fault, it's someone else's fault. I'll take you seriously when you start giving Laine some responsibility for his actions and treat him like a professional instead of a baby.
The chances he is making for himself and not quality opportunities created by a centericeman who is paid to be a PLAYMAKER. I could impute a few games to a down turn as every goal scorer has but not 21 periods. And again, as the facts clearly establish as late as the early March article, Scheif and Laine were making sweet music together instead of sour garbage created by a center who himself appears to be burned out.

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Wheeler has been putting up points with Little as his center for years, you must be a new fan.
He was a 60 point player (w/ top line minutes, PP1) with Little as his C.

Where the hell was this guy for the first half of this season when we needed him to step up? Same story as last year (career year) he starts lighting it up after the playoffs were out of reach playing with Schiefs.

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He was a 60 point player (w/ top line minutes, PP1) with Little as his C.

Where the hell was this guy for the first half of this season when we needed him to step up? Same story as last year (career year) he starts lighting it up after the playoffs were out of reach playing with Schiefs.
Where was scheifele before he started playing with Wheeler at the end of the season? Scheifele didn't take off until moving up to play with Wheeler and Ehlers on the first line. You don't reach 78 points by "only lighting it up after the playoffs are out of reach."

He's been around all season long, as usual. Consistently been the one of the jets top scorers since they moved to winnipeg. The fact that you act like he was only good starting at the end of last season is laughable.

His longest pointless streak this season is 3 games, he hasn't disappeared at any point. Why are you even bringing him up in a Laine thread? Go find his thread and complain about him there lol, see what people say.

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^ How many times has Blake cracked 30 goals in his NHL career? Laine already has him beat there.

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The chances he is making for himself and not quality opportunities created by a centericeman who is paid to be a PLAYMAKER. I could impute a few games to a down turn as every goal scorer has but not 21 periods. And again, as the facts clearly establish as late as the early March article, Scheif and Laine were making sweet music together instead of sour garbage created by a center who himself appears to be burned out.
You obviously haven't been watching, Little entered the zone and set up Laine in the slot for a perfect chance, just tonight. Laine had tons of space, and shot it right into berniers chest. It's not little's fault that Laine isn't producing, but if you want to believe that, go ahead. I obviously won't change your mind. Keep supporting the "laine is carried by scheifele" narrative.

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^ How many times has Blake cracked 30 goals in his NHL career? Laine already has him beat there.
Lol what's your point? He's got every jets player in jets 2.0 history beat...

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Laine is an 18 year old rookie playing against men in the best hockey league in the world. He has actually had a very very good rookie season. He hasn't been sheltered at all. He started off playing in the top 6 and he's stayed there all year long. No sheltering. Just throw the kid to the wolves and he's done well. I'm not sure of the ice time but he's had lots.. possibly 15 to 17 minutes a night with some games over 20 probably.

Matthews for example was sheltered to start the year. Laine hadn't been at all.

The point here tho Is he's an 18 yr old KID who has played against the other teams best players for the entire season. He's very good and is playing well but not scoring. That's fine. Can't expect the 18 yr old to dominate all year long

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You obviously haven't been watching, Little entered the zone and set up Laine in the slot for a perfect chance, just tonight. Laine had tons of space, and shot it right into berniers chest. It's not little's fault that Laine isn't producing, but if you want to believe that, go ahead. I obviously won't change your mind. Keep supporting the "laine is carried by scheifele" narrative.
You picked one play out of the entire period? lol. I'm tempted to go back and mention the beautiful PLAYMAKING passes Laine himself made to Little or any number of other players like that beautiful one to Perreault who also shot it right in the goalies chest.

Speaking of how Wheeler is directly benefitting from Scheif's real playmaking skills Wheeler on a 20 game stretch between Jan. 4-February 16 without Scheif managed 17 points. With Scheif taking only the last 8 games in March - 13 points. Do the math.

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At this point in time and deal with it... wheeler is a better overall player than Laine. Good god the kid is 18

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You picked one play out of the entire period? lol. I'm tempted to go back and mention the beautiful PLAYMAKING passes Laine himself made to Little or any number of other players like that beautiful one to Perreault who also shot it right in the goalies chest.

Speaking of how Wheeler is directly benefitting from Scheif's real playmaking skills Wheeler on a 20 game stretch between Jan. 4-February 16 without Scheif managed 17 points. With Scheif taking only the last 8 games in March - 13 points. Do the math.
Yes, thank you for pointing out that wheeler can produce at almost 1 ppg without playing with Scheifele

11 shots on goal in 2 games, 0 goals. If he'd scored 2 or 3 you wouldn't be talking. Laine's getting as many chances as he was getting with scheifele, and some high quality ones. He's just not finishing them anymore, that's on him and no one else.

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At this point in time and deal with it... wheeler is a better overall player than Laine. Good god the kid is 18
Apparently Laine can do no wrong, and it's everyone else's fault when he's not putting the puck in the net. It's ridiculous really. As soon as he's not producing, they lash out at his line mates.

First it was Ehlers, now it's Little. They started bashing Wheeler for some reason out of the blue as well. Pathetic.

You can easily tell the Laine fans from the Jets fans, and some of the Laine fans are not jets fans.

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