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04-21-2017, 10:43 AM
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We scored 4 goals in 3 away games how many of those should Bob have won?

Granted he was awful but our offense on the road was pathetic as well.
It also has to be noted that Fleury was every bit as bad as Bob in games 3 and 4.

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Dating back to the regular season, Wennberg had 1-7-8 in his last 25 games and was a -4. #1 C material? Kid just might have cost himself a couple million by disappearing.
If would be silly to sign him to anything more than a bridge deal at this point.

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04-21-2017, 11:02 AM
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It also has to be noted that Fleury was every bit as bad as Bob in games 3 and 4.
My point was the away games. It wasn't Bob that lost those games alone. Our offense scored 1 goal in 2 games and 2 goals in other.
At home I agree pin game 3 on Bob.

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04-21-2017, 11:23 AM
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By and large I was more impressed with the way our young guys played than our veterans.

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04-21-2017, 12:24 PM
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By and large I was more impressed with the way our young guys played than our veterans.
That's a good sign of what's to come!

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04-21-2017, 12:42 PM
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By and large I was more impressed with the way our young guys played than our veterans.
One of Viqsi's cookies for you.

Our kids brought it...not one of them was out of place.

The Forward vets were largely invisible. The Goalie vet found the puck to be invisible.
Saad still young, but a vet on this team - he didn't suck, but was just Ok.
Hartnell disappeared in the jet fumes - just too slow.
Foligno fumbled the puck the entire series and killed momentum.
Dubi would make a dumb play for every good one.
Gagner - enough said. We got more than we paid for, he helped get them to January, but "NEXT."
Cam was invisible except for first 5 minutes of Game 3.
Calvert is exception - he was good with exception of end to Game 2.

Bob - ouch, fought it every game.


The young guns were very visible, mostly in good ways.
Andy was very good, if not exceptional, most of the time.
Boone was the Boone we want to keep - banger who thrives in PO type play.
Bjorkstrand didn't score but he held his own - he needs some strength, which he will get.
Wild Bill found his game - he struggled with Malkin early in the series but was good at both ends the last half of the series..
Sedlak was solid when he finally got on the ice.
Wennberg was the exception for the young guns - he wasn't wretched horrible, but he didn't do anything to write home about (bad call on him last night).

D is a different story. Both vets and youngsters were good if not great. A few times they got caught standing around and not clearing pucks or people, but for the most part the D was good, close to exceptional in the offensive zone.
The Harrington/Carlsson pairing for Games 1-3 was puzzling. Carlsson looks to be a keeper but a few mistakes in early games and Torts limiting that pair's ice time affected the entire D corp.
IMO Quincey and Nutivarra were fine as 3rd pair in Games 4 & 5 - Nutti was noticeable, mostly in good ways.
Savard and JJ were VERY good, if not exceptional. JJ needs to play the Pens and PO hockey more often!
Seth was mostly stellar, a few mishaps but that will happen with the minutes and role he plays.
Zach was outstanding. Carlsson looked fine paired with Seth.
Murray returns next year tbd.

VERY HAPPY with the season. Very sad and a little disappointed today.

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04-21-2017, 01:16 PM
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In Ice Hockey (NES) terms, we need more of the top and less of the bottom


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04-21-2017, 01:26 PM
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In Ice Hockey (NES) terms, we need more of the top and less of the bottom

Seems sort of like CBJ likes being the bottom.

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04-21-2017, 04:14 PM
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Thank you.

I'm not sure I agree that it was the right call to wave off the goal. I see Wennberg deliberately moving his stick out of the way just before impact, but having nowhere to go due to pressure and body contact on his right. I'm not sure how he could have avoided the contact. But, tonight of all nights, I am not going to quibble with a fellow CBJ fan.

But the idea that he also got a penalty - I didn't even realize that. That's...not a thing for which I would commend the refereeing.
Interesting....Steve Kouleas , NHL Network XM radio host, was very critical of the call. On multiple occasions has stated it should have been a goal and the penalty call was ridiculous....of course, matters not now.

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04-21-2017, 07:17 PM
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Wennberg was being hooked on that call. Just not a good call but I don't think it would've matter given Bob's issues.

Interesting that the Jackets trajectory was upward offensively the entire series, but you can't spot the Pens 2 games. Game 1 and 2 they simply had trouble getting off a quality shot and even Vezina Bob likely isn't enough to win those given the quality shot disparity. Game 3 they had 5-6 frenzied/great minutes early, then weren't very good the rest of the way (with a decent goalie that's a CBJ win, though). Game 4 they were consistently better and aided by Fleury as well. Game 5 was the best offensive game they played. 50ish shots and many quality shots.... good stuff. These weren't shots fired into Fleury's chest from the blue line, Scott Arniel style... They just didn't quite have the skills to sink them and Fleury made very good stops all night.

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04-21-2017, 07:37 PM
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By and large I was more impressed with the way our young guys played than our veterans.
Same here.

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04-22-2017, 06:10 PM
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Amazing how Minnesota and Columbus have practically been mirror images of each other this season.

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Amazing how Minnesota and Columbus have practically been mirror images of each other this season.
tweedledee and tweedledum

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