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Edmonton's Owner Katz in potential legal trouble.

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04-06-2017, 04:21 PM
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Edmonton's Owner Katz in potential legal trouble.

Tried to solicit sex with a Brazilian actress in exchange for favors and money. Seems like a nice guy doesn't he?

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/gre...re-1202021527/

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The story begins in November 2015, when Santo was flown to Hawaii to participate in a photo shoot for Viva Glam magazine. While there, she was introduced to Canadian executive Michael Gelmon, who suggested she should meet his cousin, Daryl Katz. According to a handwritten statement filed with the lawsuit, said she was invited to Katz’s hotel suite at the Four Seasons with the promise that he could help her career.

“Katz said he could put me in a big role that would change my life and then switched the conversation and said he rather give me money,” Santo wrote.

According to Santo, Katz said, “I’m talking about millions… This would help your family and help you so you won’t struggle.”

Santo said she asked what she would have to do in exchange, and was told, “I’m looking for companionship and sex.”

Santo said she refused and walked out. The next day, she sent a text to the CEO of Viva Glam recounting the incident: “Offered me money… I didn’t get offended… You have to play the game.” She also said it appeared Katz had been drinking.

Afterward, she said Gelmon was apologetic and continued to text her after she returned to Los Angeles. In one message, Gelmon sought to arrange another meeting with Katz. She tried to deflect him by sending a photo of a Mexican model.

“There is no shortage of super modles (sic) who want to be with my cousin,” Gelmon wrote. “But he is very picky and she does not meet his standards. He prefers u.”
Lot more details within the article. Wasn't sure where else to put this as it deals with an NHL team owner.

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I guess he's trying to establish his credentials among some of his esteemed fellow NHL owners of present and yesteryear.
(no laughing matter for the actress though as it's unfortunate what female actresses & models often have to deal with, be it in Hollywood, like the 'casting couch' of years past, the modeling/fashion industry, or related or unrelated business figures)

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Oh dear.

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Oh my.

Convoluted story. While distasteful, it's generally not actionable to offer a woman money in exchange for sex. In other words, Santo couldn't sue Katz for this.

But apparently Santo's husband, Cipriani, was talking with the New York Post about running a story based on this (and it looks like he had letters and texts to back it up). But a "crisis consulting firm" also spoke with the Post, alleging that Cipriani had tried to extort money from Katz. The Post killed the story, and Cipriani in turn sued the crisis consultants for defamation.

No way Katz comes out looking good from this though.

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Fairy Godfather?

Graphic Designers are going to have a field day with this...

EDIT: Wait, he's being sued for libel and eliciting prostitution?

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Thread title is inaccurate BTW - Katz is not being sued. Rather, Glen Bunting and G.F. Bunting & Co is being sued - albeit for work they performed for Mr. Katz.

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Can you be sued for eliciting prostitution ? I thought was more like a crime that went to criminal courts.

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Can you be sued for eliciting prostitution ? I thought was more like a crime that went to criminal courts.
I thought I just explained that. The lawsuit is for defamation.

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Oh my.

Convoluted story. While distasteful, it's generally not actionable to offer a woman money in exchange for sex. In other words, Santo couldn't sue Katz for this.

But apparently Santo's husband, Cipriani, was talking with the New York Post about running a story based on this (and it looks like he had letters and texts to back it up). But a "crisis consulting firm" also spoke with the Post, alleging that Cipriani had tried to extort money from Katz. The Post killed the story, and Cipriani in turn sued the crisis consultants for defamation.

No way Katz comes out looking good from this though.
So they went to a tabloid to try to sell a story about Katz and Katz hired someone to squash the story? Did they ever contact Katz to offer not to give the story to the Post, in exchange for anything? This story now makes my head hurt.

Edit, after reading the article more closely, the husband certainly sounds like someone who would threaten to go public, and Katz already paid the couple 35,000, I don't see the tort, rule for defendant, lawyer fees and court costs to be paid by plaintiff.


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So they went to a tabloid to try to sell a story about Katz and Katz hired someone to squash the story? Did they ever contact Katz to offer not to give the story to the Post, in exchange for anything? This story now makes my head hurt.
Could be viewed as extortion if they did try to extract something from Katz to keep the story quiet.

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Is 'eliciting prostitution' Canadian English for 'soliciting prostitution' or something?

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I'm not going to defend Katz if this is actually true but the actress wanted to maintain a relationship with him despite the advances until her criminal husband allegedly tried to extort $3M and negotations on a settlement went nowhere. And another claim from the actress/husband resulted in no charges being filed against Katz in Hawaii.

This also isn't the first time Santo and her husband have gone after a billionaire:

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Professional gambler RJ Cipriani says Rahr acted inappropriately toward his wife after they all flew together from LA to Las Vegas on Nov. 7.

When Cipriani had to return to LA unexpectedly, Rahr promised to look after his wife, Greice Santo, a stunning 22-year-old Brazilian native.

But Cipriani says Rahr grew irate the next night after Santo declined to join him and a group of others for dinner at the Wynn hotel, where they were all staying as Rahr’s guests.

“He insisted she come down,” he said, then tried to force his way into her room using his own key, according to Cipriani. But Santo had bolted the door and wouldn’t let him in.

“I felt very threatened and uncomfortable,” said Santo, who declined to discuss the incident in detail.

Said Cipriani: “I called the metro police, and they came and escorted her out of the hotel.”

Las Vegas police confirmed they were called to the hotel for a “minor altercation.” No report was taken and no one was arrested, they said.

Rahr says Cipriani is not telling the truth and denies acting inappropriately toward his wife. “I tried to help the guy,” Rahr said. “I wish I’d never met him.”

Rahr’s attorney claims Cipriani’s allegations are a “shakedown,” a charge Cipriani denies.
http://nypost.com/2012/11/25/pushy-b...un-and-fights/


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Katz very well might be a slimeball. Wouldn't be surprised in the least.

But he's not being sued. A firm that allegedly represented him is being sued.

Title should probably be changed to reflect that.

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Is 'eliciting prostitution' Canadian English for 'soliciting prostitution' or something?
Here in Canada we usually use "soliciting" but in this particular case "elicit" (If you're really holding to the dictionary term) may actually work too. I think somebody just coined a legal term.

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Is 'eliciting prostitution' Canadian English for 'soliciting prostitution' or something?
No, it's not a Canadian thing. There is a difference and the words do mean different things.

To solicit a response is to request it. To elicit a response is to get it.

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Karma for roping Edmonton into paying for his shiny new arena

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Interesting, not the story this team would want going into their first playoff appearance in 11 yrs.

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No, it's not a Canadian thing. There is a difference and the words do mean different things.

To solicit a response is to request it. To elicit a response is to get it.
Elicit is more along the lines of directing circumstances towards the desired response.

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Tried to solicit sex with a Brazilian actress in exchange for favors and money. Seems like a nice guy doesn't he?

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/gre...re-1202021527/



Lot more details within the article. Wasn't sure where else to put this as it deals with an NHL team owner.
Wonder if Katz is going to be taken to the proverbial cleaners by his wife over this revelation?.....

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Brazilian Model Accuses Edmonton Oilers Owner of Offering Money for Sex

Deal was 'he would pay me 20 thousand per day and would see me 5-6 times a month,' Greice Santo claims in suit

The defamation lawsuit reads like a Hollywood movie, except the man accused of making an indecent proposal is real-life billionaire and owner of the Edmonton Oilers, Daryl Katz.

In a legal action launched this week in New York, Brazilian model and Jane the Virgin actress Greice Santo accuses Katz of offering her money for sex during a photo shoot for Viva Glam Magazine in Hawaii.

source: http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/edmonton/santo-katz-defamation-lawsuit-1.4059574

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Tried to solicit sex with a Brazilian actress in exchange for favors and money. Seems like a nice guy doesn't he?

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/gre...re-1202021527/
After seeing Katz welcome McDavid to the Oilers I can only imagine how awkward the above exchange was

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Wonder if Katz is going to be taken to the proverbial cleaners by his wife over this revelation?.....
Could've been her idea for all we know.

Well, I haven't followed this story very much....so maybe we do know. Do we?

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