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Phaneuf - How Much is Too Much?

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02-10-2006, 06:29 PM
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Phaneuf - How Much is Too Much?

If there is such thing as an "untouchable" on the Flames roster, it has got to be Phaneuf. That being said....what is his trade value? How much would some team have to overpay to get this kid? Because overpaying is the only way to some other GM is going to pry him out of Calgary.

Where's it start?
Lots of high picks?
Lots of young talent?
How much?

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Too much

Why trade him?

Oh yeah, I guess apperently there's 50 players better then him, including Paul Mara, Vishnovski, Kariya, Boyle, Kaberle, McCabe, ect ect are all worth more.

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Too much

Why trade him?

Oh yeah, I guess apperently there's 50 players better then him, including Paul Mara, Vishnovski, Kariya, Boyle, Kaberle, McCabe, ect ect are all worth more.
Alright, we will reluctantly send you Mara for Phaneuf. But you owe us one.

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Oh yeah, I guess apperently there's 50 players better then him, including Paul Mara, Vishnovski, Kariya, Boyle, Kaberle, McCabe, ect ect are all worth more.
Maybe There are 50 players better than him right now, BUT, the thing is phaneuf is young with so much potential AND darryl suter loves this kid, thats why it would take to much to pry him away.

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I can't even begin to imagine how much it would take to get Phanuef in this new NHL.

Defensivly he's great

Offensivly he's good

Cap hit wise he's minimal

Potential is through the roof.

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Too much

Why trade him?

Oh yeah, I guess apperently there's 50 players better then him, including Paul Mara, Vishnovski, Kariya, Boyle, Kaberle, McCabe, ect ect are all worth more.
50 players or 50 defensemen? What's this a reference to.. ? I could see an argument for 50 defensmen right now being better, but even that would be pretty dicey. He's not one of the top 50 players in the league though, even including potential.

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that's why i'd love to see him in st. louis.....size, toughness & potential.

St. Louis' 1st in '06
Barrett Jackman (to compensate for the loss of a D-man, THIS year)
and ?????? what more???

Calgary fans.....I want to hear...from You....

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that's why i'd love to see him in st. louis.....size, toughness & potential.

St. Louis' 1st in '06
Barrett Jackman (to compensate for the loss of a D-man, THIS year)
and ?????? what more???

Calgary fans.....I want to hear...from You....

I like it only I think that St Louis would have to add Oshie for Sutter to take it, just a thought

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No. Just... no.

There is nothing that St. Louis has or will have that could make Sutter move Phaneuf.

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Dion is already a top 5 dman in the league, and will be the best within a year. PLus, hes a sexy beast.

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Dion is already a top 5 dman in the league, and will be the best within a year.


And if you're serious..


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I agree! He's good but not THAT good!

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hes a sexy beast.
This I agree with.

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I agree! He's good but not THAT good!



This I agree with.
He's still behind Brad Richards though.

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Dion is already a top 5 dman in the league, and will be the best within a year.
...wow...

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Dion is already a top 5 dman in the league, and will be the best within a year. PLus, hes a sexy beast.
I agree, on all counts.

Homosexual undertones aside, Phaneuf is a great D-man, and Calgary has no reason to move him. He fits in really well on that team, and if Phaneuf's happy there, the Flames won't have to 'overpay' him to keep him there.

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I can't even begin to imagine how much it would take to get Phanuef in this new NHL.

Defensivly he's great

Offensivly he's good

Cap hit wise he's minimal

Potential is through the roof.
Well, the only player on team canada that has more pts than him is Bryan Mccabe

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Well, the only player on team canada that has more pts than him is Bryan Mccabe

Well... apart from Pronger, Redden, Blake, and Niedermeyer that is true.

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This is kind of pointless. Lots of teams have players that you'd have to seriously overpay to aquire, and while Phaneuf is up there he certainly doesn't top the list. Let's just all start "How much would you overpay to aquire my teams core/untradable player" thread.

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Well... apart from Pronger, Redden, Blake, and Niedermeyer that is true.
And Chara

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You don't trade Phaneuf for anything short of Crosby/Oveckin. After two two, Phaneuf is arguably the most untouchable player in the NHL right now. You just don't trade these types of players...

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Well... apart from Pronger, Redden, Blake, and Niedermeyer that is true.

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And Chara
Sweet Chara defected?

He's a very good defensman right now, and has amazing potential. He's already the Flames best all around dman, he's exteremely inexpensive, especially when production is put into account. Just absolutely nothing short of Ovechkin would move him.

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Too much

Why trade him?

Oh yeah, I guess apperently there's 50 players better then him, including Paul Mara, Vishnovski, Kariya, Boyle, Kaberle, McCabe, ect ect are all worth more.
I didn't say "better", and I explicitly said my list wasn't about trade value. I said there were 50 guys I'd rather have. Let it go man.

Phaneuf's value? A top 10 center in his prime straight up, two A-list prospects and a 1st, a top 5 goaltender in their prime, thereabouts seems fair offhand.

To GET him? You'd absolutely have to blow the Flames out of the water with a package.

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the only way you are getting Phaneuf right now is for either Crosby or Ovechkin

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