I know it won't be the best hockey argument. But it could be pointed out Toews has played a big part in making that organization and the Wirtz family a ton of money. Couple hundred million dollars is what we are talking there. So his now unfortunate contract cap hit number has at least been earned in a different way.
These contracts are exactly the reason we're going to have another lockout in a few years.
Why would they cause a lockout? The main reason for the lockouts was either some owners were losing money, and others wouldn't spend(in order not to lose money) thus were victims of lack of parity. The first lockout addressed this, the second addressed stuff like contract lengths. Anything bad that happens at this point is on the owners/GMs
There might be a few things that can lead to a lockout, but salary cap is not one of them
One thing that has to be considered is that Toews production has been very high in the playoffs more often than not. So that's a factor.
I disagree with this. In my opinion Toews had 3 really good playoffs and that's it
2010 really good
2014 really good
2015 really good
2017 so far average
I said many many times Toews only plays really well in the playoffs If he has a strong supporting casts. 2011 and 2012 was really average because Hawks had to trade Ladd Buff Versteeg Campbell for cap reasons. 2014 2015 Toews was really good because they had Saad Shaw Richards Vermette as his supporting casts. Now once again the supporting cast is gone like Sharp richards Vermette Saad and 2016 playoffs he wasnt really good and so far in 2017 he is not really good as well. He was ok in 2016 but 10.5 M he shouldn't be ok
If a lot of the Hawks young player develope into good players. Then Toews might be worth the contract because he only plays really well in the playoffs if he has really strong supporting casts. If he doesn't then he is not worth the contract.
If Chicago said "look, you performance warrants a contract in the 7-8m range" do you really think Toews wouldn't have signed? Nothing he's done outside of spring 2010 has shown he deserves more than that
Well I have not seen many Toews trade proposals or Hawks fans desperate to get rid of his Cap hit so I am going to guess they can live with contract due to what he means to the team and his part in bringing them back to respectability. The fact is every team has someone overpaid (we Leafs just hide ours on the IR) so if I am going to overpay someone by 2 mil why not my Captain/Number 1 C ?
It's really not the end of the world and to those saying only Crosby and McDavid are worth that.....a lot of people think Kane is the best player in the world. The Cap is probably going to keep going up so the Hawks will be able to adapt. In a few years they may start to hate the contract but we'll see. One more cup and there is no discussion here.
Every team in the league would give their #1 C $10.5 every day of the year if it meant winning ONE CUP,let alone 3. kopitar got $10m. he won 2 cups.
Hate the Hawks and really hate Toews, but I agree 100% I would pay Ryan Reaves 10m a year if it gave the Blues just one cup. The problem with the Toews contract is that they decided to pay him for what he had already accomplished not what he might do in the future. The Cardinals had the exact thing come around when Pujols became a free agent. You had to choose to pay for what he had already done or pay him for what you think he has left. Cardinals lost him and it was really tough on the fanbase. Not saying either way is correct but that is what the owner/GMs have to weigh when making this call