Kessel is actually a significantly better playoff performer than a guy like Hossa who most people want in. So maybe 2 more cups considering Hossa never won anything individually and rode coat tails to multiple cups.
What? Hossa played a huge part in the Hawks success. He was a core player on a team that won 3 Cups, that isn't riding anyone's coat tails...
In 2010 there was even talk about the Smythe for him. And he was key in 13, too.
Links? or is this after 1 series/game? Because there was 0 case for him at the end of either playoff runs. Not sure how you'd have any argument for Hossa against Kane/Toews 2010 or Crawford/Kane in 2013 but ok.
No it does not. Hell of a player, and a second cup is great on the resume, but he needs 5+ more years of being one of the best wingers in the game statistically. Not to mention, there will always be the fact that he played 3rd fiddle (at best) behind 71 and 87 on those 2 hypothetical cup teams. And he needs more hardware too, a single Masterton isn't cutting it.
Participated in the All Star game 3x (2011, 2012, 2015)
Stanley Cup Champion (2016)
Olympic All Star Team (2014)
Bill Masterston Winner (2006)
LOL. It doesn't require much to make the HHOF in your world, eh? Kessel has no (good) personal awards and doesn't even have 300 goals and 700 points yet. Let's wait until he hits 500 and 1000 before we even start a thread like this okay?
He has some work to do but I suppose it's possible. He doesn't play a hard game so he may be able to play longer due to that. His passing game has been criminally underated and he can still score goals albiet that dropped off some this year. He's also an American born player so depending on his point totals at the end of his career he could be in the conversation as one of the best American born players.
Sundin is in the HoF so basically anyone can make it, Kessel puts up consistent numbers, remember defending him as a Leaf using those manipulative arguements like 'he's been a top five point producer over 5 seasons' so he'll get his cute numbers to make a case.
If he was never a Leaf 2 cups would get him in, given he was the scapegoat to an extent for Burke making a bad trade I'd say he needs 3 cups now.
What is this supposed to mean?
Sundin all time rankings.
#53 games played (great longetivity)
91 games 38 goals 82 points
80 games played 47 goals 114 points
This season is ranked #110th best ever in points.
C'mon how is that not HOF worthy...or am i missing sarcasm or something?
Kessel needs a bit more to be considered.
Also I'm a bit puzzled over the fact that posters on HF on a regular basis thinks that HHOF inductions are purely based on NHL careers, disregarding international games.
No. but...He made Pens over the Top team offensively. Especially in Play-off which is his game and no many men now or 10 years back are better than him. Actually... He could be one of the greatest "secondary" players in history of the game.