HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > National Hockey League Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie
Notices

National Hockey League Talk Discuss NHL players, teams, games, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Shea Weber a lock for the Norris?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
04-21-2017, 01:36 AM
  #1
TheTechNoir
"Putrid"Horrendous"
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,678
vCash: 401
Shea Weber a lock for the Norris?

What an unbelievably incredibly 82 game season. And all 30 minutes of tonight's OT loss were mind blowing from him tonight, too.

I know Burns, Hedman, and some others had GREAT seasons. But I think we can (mostly) all agree Weber was clearly the best? Nashville is sure looking foolish for that trade now. Lol, and people were saying so much trash talk against Weber, and the trade. There has been sustained excellence (minus a few hiccups) for several entire games at a time tho that make it obvious he is the best.

I mean, he was on Team Canada's top pairing! Clearly he is top-3 in the world.

TheTechNoir is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:38 AM
  #2
Shanahanigans
Registered User
 
Shanahanigans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,633
vCash: 500
Huh? Karlsson, Burns and Hedman will probably be the finalists and rightfully so. Weber was good but nowhere near these guys.

Shanahanigans is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:43 AM
  #3
TheTechNoir
"Putrid"Horrendous"
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,678
vCash: 401
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanahanigans View Post
Huh? Karlsson, Burns and Hedman will probably be the finalists and rightfully so. Weber was good but nowhere near these guys.
Obviously that's your opinion, so I won't say it's wrong (tho I disagree obviously).

But still.. November though. Did you see how good he did in November? His PDO was AMAZING.

Also, Karlsson would be better if he wasn't a 6th forward. Lol.

TheTechNoir is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:44 AM
  #4
Vali Maki Sushi
Tuna Vali Maki Roll
 
Vali Maki Sushi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pingtung City
Country: Taiwan
Posts: 4,761
vCash: 500
Nashville doesn't regret it at all, Subban has been the far better player so far. I'm glad Weber is having a great playoffs, but he is inconsistent and the sample size is too small to consider. He doesn't deserve anywhere close to a Norris mention. He relied way too much on the power play and his defensive metrics were mep to say the least, and his one strength high danger prevention took a huge dive this season (Which proves to show it's more team orientated than individual, as Subban's high danger prevention suddenly went from a top 100 to number 1 in the league in one season).

Vali Maki Sushi is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:45 AM
  #5
CorgisPer60
Barking at the net
 
CorgisPer60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Please Understand
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,068
vCash: 279
Nope. Burns and Karlsson ought to be the chief nominees.

Also, yeah. This topic reeks of troll.

CorgisPer60 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:45 AM
  #6
Vali Maki Sushi
Tuna Vali Maki Roll
 
Vali Maki Sushi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pingtung City
Country: Taiwan
Posts: 4,761
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTechNoir View Post
Obviously that's your opinion, so I won't say it's wrong (tho I disagree obviously).

But still.. November though. Did you see how good he did in November? His PDO was AMAZING.

Also, Karlsson would be better if he wasn't a 6th forward. Lol.
So you're using one excellent month as to why he's a lock? What has he done this season ever since then prior to the playoffs? In fact an elite month and then finishing the season the way he did is a net negative to his Norris case. LOL at Karlsson being a 6th forward, that clearly tells us enough. At this rate Karlsson may very well be better defensively than Weber, maybe not in his own zone, but from every other defensive metrics together he sure is.

Vali Maki Sushi is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:46 AM
  #7
Nickmo82
Fire AV
 
Nickmo82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Japan
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,027
vCash: 500
Correct me if I'm wrong, but post-season play has no bearing on the Norris.

Nickmo82 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:47 AM
  #8
Suxnet
Registered User
 
Suxnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,305
vCash: 500
Poor effort chap. 5/10.

Suxnet is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:48 AM
  #9
TheTechNoir
"Putrid"Horrendous"
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,678
vCash: 401
Quote:
Originally Posted by RainierBeat View Post
Nashville doesn't regret it at all, Subban has been the far better player so far. I'm glad Weber is having a great playoffs, but he is inconsistent and the sample size is too small to consider. He doesn't deserve anywhere close to a Norris mention. He relied way too much on the power play and his defensive metrics were mep to say the least, and his one strength high danger prevention took a huge dive this season (Which proves to show it's more team orientated than individual, as Subban's high danger prevention suddenly went from a top 100 to number 1 in the league in one season).
Thank you. If only the majority of ppl here used logic like this and long sight during the regular season. Rather than most doing the opposite.

Nashville made out like bandits. Just like ppl said consensus wise in the off season. And then consensus shifted radically and rapidly and mocked the off season comments. Then they smartened up. Then a good playoff game and they shifted. Then they smartened up.. Ellis has done a great job stepping up in lieu of Weber. And they have Josi + PK now too. Montreal needed a Weber-type... but they also needed a PK type. And now they have none.

People judge entire friggin seasons off of one period some times. Weber was played below career avg minutes per game time today to 'save him'. So if MTL advances he won't burn out like he did in recent years with NSH. Not a good sign for an 'elite 1C'.

Ps: thanks to the rest of you. It is supposed to have no redeeming value and be insufferable. Like the nearly equivalant posts that are posted regularly after a few game stretch of excellence. Then it becomes magically invalid when he isn't playing as good.

Other ppl make sarcastic comments mocking former opinions on tbe regular. Which is also insufferable in its own way. So.


Last edited by TheTechNoir: 04-21-2017 at 01:55 AM.
TheTechNoir is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:51 AM
  #10
Dart Guy
Registered User
 
Dart Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Beaver City
Country: Canada
Posts: 88
vCash: 500
He shouldn't even be nominated.

Dart Guy is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 01:51 AM
  #11
TheTechNoir
"Putrid"Horrendous"
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,678
vCash: 401
Quote:
Originally Posted by RainierBeat View Post
At this rate Karlsson may very well be better defensively than Weber, maybe not in his own zone, but from every other defensive metrics together he sure is.
Agreed.

TheTechNoir is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 02:33 AM
  #12
North Cole
Pique Subban Fan
 
North Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 429
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTechNoir View Post
Ps: thanks to the rest of you. It is supposed to have no redeeming value and be insufferable. Like the nearly equivalant posts that are posted regularly after a few game stretch of excellence. Then it becomes magically invalid when he isn't playing as good.

Other ppl make sarcastic comments mocking former opinions on tbe regular. Which is also insufferable in its own way. So.
Wait, you know it's insufferable, and everything is insufferable, so you thought you make something else insufferable in order to bash people being insufferable? Makes sense..can someone lock this. like LOL.

Next time just call it - "HFboards overreaction is insufferable". Gets the point across a lot faster.

North Cole is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 02:52 AM
  #13
Farm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 29
vCash: 500
This is so passive aggressive it's sad.

Farm is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:02 AM
  #14
JoeThorntonsRooster
#FireDougWilson
 
JoeThorntonsRooster's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: San Francisco, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,373
vCash: 500
Post-season play has no bearing on Norris voting (the voting is done before the playoffs start) and I would quite literally bet ten thousand dollars that Weber won't even be nominated

JoeThorntonsRooster is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:08 AM
  #15
JaegerDice
Q Gonna Q
 
JaegerDice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,275
vCash: 500
Not unless Erik Karlsson legally changed his name to Shea Weber.

JaegerDice is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:35 AM
  #16
21
Peter The Great
 
21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,612
vCash: 500
The thing is that Erik Karlsson would be able to play forward without any problems at all whereas Weber is a true defenseman.

It's almost wrong calling Erik a defenseman, he is more like a quarterback kind of player, playmaker, allround.

As a true defenseman Weber is better, but given a more free role Karlsson is outstanding, truly number 1 in the world.

21 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:37 AM
  #17
Took a pill in Sbisa
2showToffoliIwascool
 
Took a pill in Sbisa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Australia
Country: Australia
Posts: 10,111
vCash: 1323
Impossible to be a lock if you aren't even in the conversation since November.

Took a pill in Sbisa is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:48 AM
  #18
ramdm5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 203
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaegerDice View Post
Not unless Erik Karlsson legally changed his name to Shea Weber.
Hilarious. I think he should change it to Bobby Orr though, imagine the number of possible trophies Orr would have after his career. Also it would kill all comparisions between Karlsson and Orr.

Edit: I think Drew Doughty is a lock for the Norris. It's been a while for him and I think he's due.

ramdm5 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 03:56 AM
  #19
WesMcCauley
Registered User
 
WesMcCauley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 6,018
vCash: 500
lol no... He isnt even a top 3 defensemen in the NHL.

WesMcCauley is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 04:14 AM
  #20
edguy
Registered User
 
edguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Charlottetown, PEI
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,344
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by meldelaget View Post
lol no... He isnt even a top 3 defensemen in the NHL.
Maybe not even top 5..

edguy is online now  
Old
04-21-2017, 04:20 AM
  #21
Beville
#ForTheBoys
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Engerlanddd!
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 5,562
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTechNoir View Post
Obviously that's your opinion, so I won't say it's wrong (tho I disagree obviously).

But still.. November though. Did you see how good he did in November? His PDO was AMAZING.

Also, Karlsson would be better if he wasn't a 6th forward. Lol.
"I know Burns, Hedman, and some others had GREAT seasons."

Well that's half your argument gone already...

Beville is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 04:28 AM
  #22
Borvietzky74
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 36
vCash: 500
The real question is, who are the 4th and 5th forwards?

Borvietzky74 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 06:55 AM
  #23
93gilmour93
Registered User
 
93gilmour93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,037
vCash: 500
Hahaha. Unless Weber is Swedish for Karlsson then no.

93gilmour93 is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 07:34 AM
  #24
Fire Sweeney
Registered User
 
Fire Sweeney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bergen
Country: Norway
Posts: 23,113
vCash: 500
Yanick Weber ? Or the crosss-checking pylon ?

Fire Sweeney is offline  
Old
04-21-2017, 07:34 AM
  #25
FrozenJagrt
Registered User
 
FrozenJagrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,632
vCash: 500
The only thing Nashville should regret is the contract Weber got. If I remember correctly, if he retired a year or two before the end of his contract, it will kill Nashville financially.

FrozenJagrt is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. @2017 All Rights Reserved.