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Was this trade good for Colorado?

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10-23-2003, 04:24 PM
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Was this trade good for Colorado?

To Washington: Battaglia, Johansson
To Colorado: Konowalchuk, 3rd

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10-23-2003, 05:29 PM
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Yeah, because Kono is a good role player, and Battaglia never did well in Colorado. Also, Colorado doesn't care too much about prospects, they can buy their talent.

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10-23-2003, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGoPens63
Yeah, because Kono is a good role player, and Battaglia never did well in Colorado. Also, Colorado doesn't care too much about prospects, they can buy their talent.

they dont buy all thier talent. trading and drafting isnt buying talent.

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10-23-2003, 05:40 PM
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To Washington: Battaglia, Johansson
To Colorado: Konowalchuk, 3rd
They dumped Battaglia who was doing nothing for them, that's good. They gained Konowalchuk who I believe will do nothing for him. I've seen quite a few Caps game in person and on tv in the last couple of years and the only time I notice Konowalchuk is when he's doing his "scarey guy glare thing" on the jumbotron. Anyhow, maybe I'm wrong and I should drink less beer at the games. Colorado loses a prospect, but gains a ( probably high ) 3rd. I voted "no" but this trade also won't significantly hurt Colorado either. If there would have been a "neither" choice, I probably would have picked that.

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10-23-2003, 06:19 PM
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I've always liked Konowalchuk, he's a great player and Battaglia never lit it up in Colorado. I'd say great deal.

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10-23-2003, 06:36 PM
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Also, Colorado doesn't care too much about prospects, they can buy their talent.
Please explain how the Avalanche "buy" their talent.

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10-23-2003, 07:08 PM
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Mixed.

On one hand, they got a great role player in Konowalchuk who's a leader in the room, a great checking line presence and who can chip in on offense. Battaglia is kind of a similar player, but he did squat in an Avs uniform.

On the other hand, Johansson was about as good a prospect as the Avs had and looked like a future NHLer. The Caps have a lot of good young talent stocked up it seems like. All because of that Oates trade I guess

I guess it's a win, but maybe not in the long run. Konowalchuk is not exactly young, after all.

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10-24-2003, 05:07 PM
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They dumped Battaglia who was doing nothing for them, that's good. They gained Konowalchuk who I believe will do nothing for him. I've seen quite a few Caps game in person and on tv in the last couple of years and the only time I notice Konowalchuk is when he's doing his "scarey guy glare thing" on the jumbotron. Anyhow, maybe I'm wrong and I should drink less beer at the games. Colorado loses a prospect, but gains a ( probably high ) 3rd. I voted "no" but this trade also won't significantly hurt Colorado either. If there would have been a "neither" choice, I probably would have picked that.
I was thinking about the same thing. It probably won't have much effect because neither player is an impact player. I think they (colorado) did it to improve their PK, which has sucked so far. It's probably a fair trade, but doesn't really have the potential to greatly help either team.

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10-24-2003, 05:41 PM
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I think they gave up too much

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I think they gave up too much
I agree

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10-24-2003, 06:31 PM
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Deal 1:

To Colorado: Bates Battaglia
To Carolina: Radim Vrbata

Deal 2:

To Colorado: Steve Konowalchuk, 3rd Round Pick
To Washington: Bates Battaglia, Jonas Johansson

Basically...

To Colorado: Steve Konwalchuk (31), 3rd Round Pick
From Colorado: Radim Vrbata (22), Jonas Johansson (19)

Giving up a couple potential top 6 forwards for a role player and a draft pick isn't really what I would consider a good move.

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10-24-2003, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by go pierre hedin
Deal 1:

To Colorado: Bates Battaglia
To Carolina: Radim Vrbata

Deal 2:

To Colorado: Steve Konowalchuk, 3rd Round Pick
To Washington: Bates Battaglia, Jonas Johansson

Basically...

To Colorado: Steve Konwalchuk (31), 3rd Round Pick
From Colorado: Radim Vrbata (22), Jonas Johansson (19)

Giving up a couple potential top 6 forwards for a role player and a draft pick isn't really what I would consider a good move.
That's a very good point, but the question was "was this trade good for Colorado."

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10-24-2003, 07:20 PM
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It's good in a "this improves their team" sense, it's bad in a "gave up too much youth for this improvement" sense. Don't really know which way to go for this poll.

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10-25-2003, 12:08 AM
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ugh, I dunno ... can you ask me again later?

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10-25-2003, 12:12 AM
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ugh, I dunno ... can you ask me again later?

sure vote when June 21st comes around

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10-25-2003, 06:50 AM
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Yes
I said yes for some of the same reasons as stated above. Colorado is trying to win the Cup now and they made a move that will make them better now, to win the Cup this year.

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10-26-2003, 10:28 PM
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I would rather have seen the Avs give up someone like Boychuk, someone who will play in the NHL. As it is, they upgraded on Battaglia for only the difference between Johansson and a 3rd. They overpaid a little, but I wish the cost had been Boychuk.

Actually, Boychuk would have fit the Caps' needs a little better. They lack depth on the blueline in the NHL and in their system. McPhee is a bad GM though, so what do you expect?

Actually the caps have quite a few promising young defensemen. Eminger might be a calder nominee(not that he will win), Yonkman is probably a year away, and cutta is a potential NHLer. What we could use are some veteran defensemen.

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10-27-2003, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by go pierre hedin
Deal 1:

To Colorado: Bates Battaglia
To Carolina: Radim Vrbata

Deal 2:

To Colorado: Steve Konowalchuk, 3rd Round Pick
To Washington: Bates Battaglia, Jonas Johansson

Basically...

To Colorado: Steve Konwalchuk (31), 3rd Round Pick
From Colorado: Radim Vrbata (22), Jonas Johansson (19)

Giving up a couple potential top 6 forwards for a role player and a draft pick isn't really what I would consider a good move.
Adding on to this post:

To Colorado: Peter Worrell, Steve Konowalchuk, 3rd round pick (WAS), 2nd round pick (FLA)
From Colorado: Eric Messier, Vaclav Nedorost, Jonas Johansson, Radim Vrbata



The positive thing is the Avs got 2 solid picks out of that.

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10-27-2003, 01:01 PM
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Very good deal. I despise Battaglia.

 
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