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02-15-2006, 05:51 PM
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If he went to Dallas, then the Kings definitely passed...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=155004&hubname=nhl

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True - along with the 24 other NHL organ-I-zations ahead of the Stars in the waiver draft. Is this another "we shoulda, cuz someone in our division (fill in the blank)ed" thread starter?

I'd much rather have Ken Belanger on our roster, but the toughness factor has been there (imo) for most of the season. Tom Kostopolousandasideoftahini will never be mistaken for Bob Probert, but Messrs. Cowan, Avery, Parros and Gleason can all step up if called upon within their respective weight classes.


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Why do you think he was even on waivers *twice* to begin with?

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Why do you think he was even on waivers *twice* to begin with?

Minor detail like that....

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Hey, one could then say... Why do you think Dallas picked him up?

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Hey, one could then say... Why do you think Dallas picked him up?
Indeed, considering they already have Garrett Burnett, Nathan Perrott, and now Stevenson.

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Indeed, considering they already have Garrett Burnett, Nathan Perrott, and now Stevenson.
minor detail like that...

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Whoop. Dee. Doo.

Are you actually *****ing at DT over this?

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I wouldn't have picked him up either. What would he have added that we don't already have?

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He doesn't excite me, either, but the idea that Dallas wanted him does intrigue and concern me a little. If anything, they made a move to (in their opinion) improve the team, which is still more than DT has done since... oh, September.

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Garrett Burnett isn't even with the Stars any more. This is what most of us would refer to as "dumpster diving" had it been a Dave Taylor acquisition.

The Kings shouldn't worry that the Stars have added a counter to Jeff Cowan.

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Kings pick Stevenson off waivers = typical Taylor. He thinks(that's his problem) a waiver guy is going to save the season? This is what he does when his team is in a slump??????? FIRE HIM!!!!!

Stars pick Stevenson off waivers = typical Taylor. Doesn't he think(that's his problem) that any move at this point could maybe shake this team up? He has to do something, doesn't he??????? FIRE HIM!!!!!


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Kings pick Stevenson off waivers = typical Taylor. He thinks(that's his problem) a waiver guy is going to save the season? This is what he does when his team is in a slump??????? FIRE HIM!!!!!

Stars pick Stevenson off waivers = typical Taylor. Doesn't he think(that's his problem) that any move at this point could maybe shake this team up? He has to do something, doesn't he??????? FIRE HIM!!!!!


What I love is that the same posters would have said both!

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Don't get me wrong I don't think I would've picked up Stevenson, never been a big fan of us, BUT, it's the idea that Dallas, a team in first place already, picks up another player for their team to help them out. And the Kings while struggling, do nothing to help better the team.

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Don't get me wrong I don't think I would've picked up Stevenson, never been a big fan of us, BUT, it's the idea that Dallas, a team in first place already, picks up another player for their team to help them out. And the Kings while struggling, do nothing to help better the team.
I'd be more upset if - after all this time - THIS is the type of player DT would acquire.

A couple dozen other teams passed on this guy too. They guy's so inconsequential it's really not even worth discussing.

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A couple dozen other teams passed on this guy too. They guy's so inconsequential it's really not even worth discussing.
I think that most of us agree on this. No one mentioned him when he was put on waivers, and that pretty much tells all.

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I'd be more upset if - after all this time - THIS is the type of player DT would acquire.

A couple dozen other teams passed on this guy too. They guy's so inconsequential it's really not even worth discussing.

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It's not about the type of player. It's about Dallas being proactive in trying to improve an already good team, and L.A. sitting on their hands doing nothing as we fall further back.


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It's not about the type of player. It's about Dallas being proactive in trying to improve an already good team, and L.A. sitting on their hands doing nothing as we fall further back.
With all due respect - it IS all about the type of player. I'm not going to get excited about DT passing up a guy who no one else seemed to care about, and would have done nothing to improve this team's current deficiencies.

There's NO reason for DT to sell the farm for rent-a-players. This current Kings team is a good team - at times a very good team, but one rent-a-player isn't going to make them a great team, much less an elite team. If the Kings get deep into the playoffs this season, they'll get there the same way any of the other 25 less-than-elite teams will - with strong goaltending, good special teams and some luck. Special teams is what the Kings need to improve on most - and a defenseman that's got a bit of offensive skill and strong PK abilities will help in that area. DT Says he's looking for a stay at home D-man. I have no reason not to believe him.

If you want to argue that the Kings could have used that stay at home d-man a few weeks ago - there is no argument with me, I totally agree, but it's not a big stretch to guess the price was too high, and the Kings were doing quite well at the time. It's nearly impossible to find the right player, teams and GM to make a trade at the exact moment it'll help the team the most.

If I were Dallas I'd look for a player than can improve their deficiencies - starting with a 24th place power play (with THAT lineup - you want to talk about a special teams coach that sould be shown the door). Stevenson does NOTHING to improve that, or much else except grit and grit is so overused when describing the Kings current roster adding more grit and only grit just doesn't do much for me.

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With all due respect - it IS all about the type of player. I'm not going to get excited about DT passing up a guy who no one else seemed to care about, and would have done nothing to improve this team's current deficiencies.
Sure, no one else seemed to care about him but the 1st place Stars. Obviously the team saw something in him.

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There's NO reason for DT to sell the farm for rent-a-players. This current Kings team is a good team - at times a very good team, but one rent-a-player isn't going to make them a great team, much less an elite team. If the Kings get deep into the playoffs this season, they'll get there the same way any of the other 25 less-than-elite teams will - with strong goaltending, good special teams and some luck. Special teams is what the Kings need to improve on most - and a defenseman that's got a bit of offensive skill and strong PK abilities will help in that area. DT Says he's looking for a stay at home D-man. I have no reason not to believe him.
I agree wholeheartedly, and I'm not looking for DT to add a big name. I think another center, someone very good on the faceoffs, and another defenseman is all this team needs. I've never advocated dealing the kids for a rental. Never have, never will. But the fact that the Stars picked up Stevenson for something like 67K is part of what bothers me. Cowan hasn'y done much this year, why not pick him up and push Cowan and TK more? More likely than not he's making less than a good majority of the Kings front office personal, if he doens't work out, waive him, if he does, waive Cowan.

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If you want to argue that the Kings could have used that stay at home d-man a few weeks ago - there is no argument with me, I totally agree, but it's not a big stretch to guess the price was too high, and the Kings were doing quite well at the time. It's nearly impossible to find the right player, teams and GM to make a trade at the exact moment it'll help the team the most.
DT said before the season he was looking for another defenseman. Where is he? Don't tell me that over the course of the season that the price was too high to grab one of his guys he had targeted.

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If I were Dallas I'd look for a player than can improve their deficiencies - starting with a 24th place power play (with THAT lineup - you want to talk about a special teams coach that sould be shown the door). Stevenson does NOTHING to improve that, or much else except grit and grit is so overused when describing the Kings current roster adding more grit and only grit just doesn't do much for me.

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Grit may not do anything for you, but it obviously is doing something for the Stars. I do believe that they acquired Niinimaa for their PP troubles.

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DT said before the season he was looking for another defenseman. Where is he? Don't tell me that over the course of the season that the price was too high to grab one of his guys he had targeted.
The Kings don't want d-men that will regularly drop the gloves. They are routinely in the box for 5 minutes at a time and the other 5 pay the price


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Let me remind everyone:

Dave Taylor: "I like this team"

We have the useless Parros and guys like Parros and Stevenson won't see ten minutes in the playoffs.

Which roster player on the Stars loses ice time because of Jeremy Stevenson?

Please.

Who cares.

Besides, Dave was golfing when it came over the waiver wire.

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Please.

Who cares.
Agreed!

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Funny thing here in dallas they talk about the GM Armstrong never getting anybody good. They tire of the 4th line acquisitions like Hagman Perrot and Stevenson and hope that guys like Polak and Lessard get a chance. Nimamaa is already disliked here because he has not been good and taken minutes from crowd fav Robidas( I still think the Niamaa deal will be okay)The morale I guess is grass is always greener

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