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05-19-2017, 02:21 PM
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I don't get to see a lot of the prospects, so I'm not some expert. If someone wants to come in here and tell me that I'm out to lunch about any prospect then that's fine by me. But Chytil was fantastic at the U18s. High hockey IQ, both defensively and offensively, a uniformly high level of skill, great battler, great skater, and a superb playmaker.

Not sure who to compare him to, though.
Thanks. Checked LWA's site and they compare him to Johnson.

http://lastwordonhockey.com/2017/05/...-nhl-draft-48/

Your comments and others suggest great skating which is something we really need more of.

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05-26-2017, 09:42 AM
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Completely expecting a trade for another first round pick and the Habs taking Bowers and Comtois.

"Character" and "centres"

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+sergachev

Guys Sergachev, galchenyuk+1st for Nolan Patrick?

Yes, you lose sergachev but you replace galchenyuk by a future 1C right handed and big with an amazing shot
No.

I personally don't think Patrick becomes a game breaking number one center. I think he'll top out as a 1B center. He's really nowhere even near Matthews caliber. I'd rather pick Hischier over him anyway.

Trading that package for yet another prospect that we could very well fail at developing, and one that will take 2 years to even settle into being an NHLer ready to play against the best is not really something I'm interested in unless the Habs just commit to a full on rebuild.

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I'm not high on this draft. I don't move that package for a guy who talent wise (not style wise) but talent wise is probably on par with Ryan Nugent Hopkins at 1st overall, more than say Connor McDavid or Auston Matthews.

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05-26-2017, 10:20 PM
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Montreal 2017 NHL Draft

With 5 picks what do we do...retool our Cs!
1 25 Kristian Vesalainen RW
2 56 Jonas Ikonen LW/C
2 58 Alexy Lipanov C
3 87 Dimitri Samoroukov LD
5 149 Alexandre Texier C

What about u guys?

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05-27-2017, 01:01 AM
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With 5 picks what do we do...retool our Cs!
1 25 Kristian Vesalainen RW
2 56 Jonas Ikonen LW/C
2 58 Alexy Lipanov C
3 87 Dimitri Samoroukov LD
5 149 Alexandre Texier C

What about u guys?
I don't think Vesalainen and Texier will be available at those spots.

25 Chityl/Norris/Frost C (or a falling prospect)
56 and 58 Lipanov/Geekie/Texier/Heponiemi C or Safin RW or Ikonen (doubt he's there) LW/C
87 Samorukov D or Olson C or Maxime Fortier RW or Zhukov G or Teasdale/Koltygin LW
149 Barrat/Repo C or Mihkin/Studenic RW

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I don't think Vesalainen and Texier will be available at those spots.

25 Chityl/Norris/Frost C (or a falling prospect)
56 and 58 Lipanov/Geekie/Texier/Heponiemi C or Safin RW or Ikonen (doubt he's there) LW/C
87 Samorukov D or Olson C or Maxime Fortier RW or Zhukov G or Teasdale/Koltygin LW
149 Barrat/Repo C or Mihkin/Studenic RW

And not sure Lipanov is available either at the end of the second round.

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Completely expecting a trade for another first round pick and the Habs taking Bowers and Comtois.

"Character" and "centres"
What happened to Comtois ? Wasn't the guy ranked top 5 in some rankings in mid 2016 ? And now he's not even top 20 or a first rounder in every rankings ?

Did the guy suck that bad this year ?

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05-27-2017, 10:47 AM
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What happened to Comtois ? Wasn't the guy ranked top 5 in some rankings in mid 2016 ? And now he's not even top 20 or a first rounder in every rankings ?

Did the guy suck that bad this year ?
Yep, he really sucked. Not even ppg and didn't exactly excel at center. Either this is a major off year for him and he simply had no good linemates, or he's plateaued hard and this slip in production is a major red flag. I don't really see him as a center, so I'm not sure if he'd be a great fit for MTL. Looked great last year though... big risk in that pick.

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05-27-2017, 11:21 AM
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For those of you who didn't see it in the other thread, Jabba11 posted a fun draft tool, that's easy to use and contains several features. Here's my post about it:

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From the DraftWired Simulator website. When do I start as the next Canadiens GM?

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First off, thanks for posting about this.

The site contains several neat features.

I accessed it here for free: https://www.draftwired2.com:8443/apps/dwNHL

It'll take a few seconds to load and then click on the "Sign in as Guest" tab so you don't have to register.

Next, select the Habs (or whatever team you like). Once new page opens, select the Draft Do-Over tab and then you'll a list of Habs drafted players by year. Choose a draft year and then you can substitute any selected player by whoever was available at the time. There are also other tabs of interest.

You can also sort prospects by position from the opening page. For instance, by clicking on centers you get a list according to where they think they'll get selected, including handedness, height and weight.

The site doesn't say how their data is compiled, however.

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Just trade it away and get something usefull.

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+sergachev

Guys Sergachev, galchenyuk+1st for Nolan Patrick?

Yes, you lose sergachev but you replace galchenyuk by a future 1C right handed and big with an amazing shot
Wow, this is horrible. Three 1st rounders for an oft-injured player that is nowhere close to being a franchise player. He did not impress me when I watched him. This is not the year to be making this kind of trade.

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05-27-2017, 12:06 PM
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For those of you who didn't see it in the other thread, Jabba11 posted a fun draft tool, that's easy to use and contains several features. Here's my post about it:
You know that you have something ****** when a draft simulator reward you with Suzuki and Thomas as late 2nd rd selections. This is pure crap and shouldnt be diserve promotion

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05-27-2017, 12:14 PM
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You know that you have something ****** when a draft simulator reward you with Suzuki and Thomas as late 2nd rd selections. This is pure crap and shouldnt be diserve promotion
It has other features that are interesting. I'm not associated in any manner with the product, so far be it from me to promote it.

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05-27-2017, 12:29 PM
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Trade up for Pettersson or Necas is the only option I'll be happy with

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What about Conor Timmins? At 25 I don't care about position but it'd be great to get a good player. BPA all the way.

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What about Conor Timmins? At 25 I don't care about position but it'd be great to get a good player. BPA all the way.
Always BPA.. but Timmins won't be available at 25.

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Since the draft is being held in Chicago this year, Bergevin should try and move one or two picks to them so they could make a splash in front of their fans. And in exchange, secure picks for next year's draft where the pool is much better.

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What our organization is majorly lacking (in our prospect pool and in the NHL):

1) A center...
2) with skill...
3) with size...
4) with a RH shot and can play the powerplay effectively (shoot AND pass)

For these reasons, and the fact that Suzuki, Necas and Thomas will most likely not be available at the 25th spot, my choice is Joni Ikonen. Chytil is an interesting player as well but Ikonen is a better fit in my opinion (RH and more skills). He is not big (~5ft11), but at 25th, you can't ask for everything you want...

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05-30-2017, 02:19 AM
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Since the draft is being held in Chicago this year, Bergevin should try and move one or two picks to them so they could make a splash in front of their fans. And in exchange, secure picks for next year's draft where the pool is much better.
I don't know how much better the pool will be at the end of the first next year. That's the only pick they have worth mentioning as we already have their 2nd.

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Name a few players you think the habs should draft....

Depending on who's available, my picks would be at C:

Robert Thomas, skilled gallagher type player

Jason Robertson, big and skilled although foot speed is average

Those are my picks

I wouldn't go for a D unless someone falls who we can't pass on

my darkhorse would be Isaac Ratcliffe, 6'4 skilled winger, skating needs work.

Shoot your suggestions
If there are even remote questions about skating, it's a big "NO" from me. The game has changed. It's not necessarily leading to goals for, but if you can't skate it will lead to goals against.

Montreal needs to get faster and more skilled going forward. Size isn't irrelevant, but you don't need to be a tree. Strength on the puck, high end puck skills, speed, the ability to create scoring chances and capitalize; those are the criteria. When it's their turn, it's on them to pick the player that checks off as much of that list as possible.

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I don't know how much better the pool will be at the end of the first next year. That's the only pick they have worth mentioning as we already have their 2nd.
Good point, I forgot we had their 2nd next year.

Would you trade this year's first for a first next year from a team likely to finish in the lower third of the standings? Most seem to say that this year's pool is rather mediocre.

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Good point, I forgot we had their 2nd next year.

Would you trade this year's first for a first next year from a team likely to finish in the lower third of the standings? Most seem to say that this year's pool is rather mediocre.
I would like to acquire many 2018 picks. There are so many interesting players already. Finland keeps churning out high end forwards with Kotkansalo and Kupari. Milos Roman from Slovakia, Filip Zadina was better than Necas at the U18s and played in the Extraliga already in addition to the big name talents who need not be mentioned.

If we could do that switch with, say, Vancouver I'd say yes. If you're in the top 10 next year you're probably going to get an amazing player. But for that reason I think bad teams will look at them selves pretty honestly and hold on to their 2018 firsts.

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What happened to Comtois ? Wasn't the guy ranked top 5 in some rankings in mid 2016 ? And now he's not even top 20 or a first rounder in every rankings ?

Did the guy suck that bad this year ?
He's not a Timmins pick. Not in the first round. One thing you notice about Timmins picks, and he has said it in the past, is he focused on guys who are on the upswing, not the downswing.

I have no idea who the Habs will take in the first round, but I'm willing to bet it will be a player whose ranking on draft day is higher than it was at the beginning of the season

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