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02-17-2006, 12:17 AM
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NY1 news: Madison Square Garden Close To Agreement On One-Block Move

NY Times: Madison Square Garden Owners Discuss One-Block Move

Philly Daily News: Madison Square Garden could be moving again

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I was wondering when I would see this. It will take a long time.

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ehh, that is a LOT of work, moving the HUGE post office, which IMO is beautiful, and messing up (again) another train station idea. oh well, they do what they want, not what is needed..

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A new Garden is nothing new.The Gulf & Western people who owned the Garden in the 1980's wanted to build a new building on the West Side Rail Yards near the Jacob Javits Center.The market crashed in 1987 and they decided to renovate the current Garden

Dolan has wanted a new building for a long time.He still plans on beginning the major renovations of the current Garden this summer.It's all Dolan's money.He wants to pay for the renovations and the new Garden

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on the one hand a new Garden would be great...on the other hand 9th ave is not as good of a location. i guess it would be worth it if it meant getting a state of the art arena.

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on the one hand a new Garden would be great...on the other hand 9th ave is not as good of a location. i guess it would be worth it if it meant getting a state of the art arena.
It's across the street from the current Garden.That area is improving

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how long would a project like that take to build?

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how long would a project like that take to build?
Actual construction can take 2-3 years. But there are so many hurdles to building a project like this in NYC that the time from announcement to opening can be much longer. Look at how much progress the Nets stadium in Brooklyn has made.

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It's across the street from the current Garden.That area is improving
I think he means because it is farther from the train stations. Now the walk from the N/R to the Garden isn't awful. But another avenue (you know how long those avenues are down there) would be more of a pain. Not saying I wouldn't do it. Just saying.

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I hope they could do this in such a way that preserves the look of the building and that beautiful glass arch that we've seen in the preliminary drawings. It would be one of the most solid architectural designs in NY if they keep that.

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I think he means because it is farther from the train stations. Now the walk from the N/R to the Garden isn't awful. But another avenue (you know how long those avenues are down there) would be more of a pain. Not saying I wouldn't do it. Just saying.
exactly what i meant. i usually walk to the games from my office in midtown. it's not the end of the world, but i would rather walk west to 7th ave than 9th ave. but i agree i would deal with it if it meant having the newest venue in the league.

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ehh, that is a LOT of work, moving the HUGE post office, which IMO is beautiful, and messing up (again) another train station idea. oh well, they do what they want, not what is needed..
They're not moving the post office building, they are turning it into the train station. And most of the rail lines are already under it anyway. Also, the post office was designed by the same people who designed the original Penn Station.

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02-17-2006, 08:23 PM
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They're not moving the post office building, they are turning it into the train station. And most of the rail lines are already under it anyway. Also, the post office was designed by the same people who designed the original Penn Station.
and it was a travesty that old Penn Station was torn down. Its a shame.

old Penn: http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7...ncourse4bt.jpg

new proposed ideas for turning the Post Office into New Penn:
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wow old Penn Station looked NICE, just like the very grandiose European train terminals.

As far as the new Post Office/Penn Station, i thought that they would not keep the front of the current post office, but thankfully they will. also with these projects as said above, it takes forever to get things moving in NYC, esp w/ a place and area like this.

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and it was a travesty that old Penn Station was torn down. Its a shame.

old Penn: http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7...ncourse4bt.jpg

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It was a beautiful station (I don't remember it though) and destroying it was a travesty. But, a lot of good came out losing it because the Landmark law was passed soon afterwards and it has saved many, many beautiful buildings in New York City.

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It was a beautiful station (I don't remember it though) and destroying it was a travesty. But, a lot of good came out losing it because the Landmark law was passed soon afterwards and it has saved many, many beautiful buildings in New York City.

you're right on that count. I think at one time Grand Central was at risk, but the loss of Penn helped prevent such further mistakes.

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