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02-22-2006, 10:51 PM
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Patrick Roy as coach

Awright, so here's what i have been thinking...

We know that Roy is the GM/Coach for the junior team.

I believe he has mentioned in the past that he's been wanting to get closer to the organization once again (although with Pierre Boivin on board im somehow not convinced this will ever happen).

Do you believe that Roy may eventually be proposed a coaching job in Montreal? Or heck, even the job of GM one day?

I know that Roy always had the "we MUST win every game" kind of attitude and he doesnt take losses well (hence why he retired from Colorado as he said the team had lost that kind of mentality, accepting defeat instead of fighting adversity).

I dont know how good of a job he's doing with his team, but it makes me wonder if he'll ever decide to coach at the NHL level...potentially the Habs...it would be interesting none the less.

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02-22-2006, 10:59 PM
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roy as much as i like him has a way of burning bridges. he recently criticized pierre boivin so i don't expect him with the habs any time soon.

Though he does make one good q coach. Though its easier when he has radulov and esposito on his team.

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02-22-2006, 11:04 PM
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roy as much as i like him has a way of burning bridges. he recently criticized pierre boivin so i don't expect him with the habs any time soon.

Though he does make one good q coach. Though its easier when he has radulov and esposito on his team.
that's what i meant about him not being able to get closer to the habs, since he criticized Boivin recently.

I still think one day he'll get his shot at it.

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02-22-2006, 11:19 PM
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I dont want that ******* to ever take part in any shape or form of the habs organisation. Anybody who sais they would never put a habs jersey ever again for the rest of their life deserves a big slap in the face. On top of that he's overrated. Of his 18 year career half the years he's pretty much sucked.

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02-22-2006, 11:41 PM
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I disagree with Kovalev on the fact Roy is overrated or has sucked.. that being said, I agree with the rest of his comment. Roy disgraced the organization by doing what he did on that fateful day in 95. His jersey shouldn't be hung along with those of dedicated lifelong habs players like Béliveau and co nor should he ever hold any position of any sort with the habs in the future.

It's got nothing to do with his abilities or potential as a coach/GM (I see him more as a GM in the future) but rather with the fact that he shouldn't be allowed to represent this team in any fashion after leaving it to die the way he did.

It's a bit weird that I say this because I don't blame him for wanting out after Tremblay and Houle were made coach and gm. But he should never get a free pass on it either.

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02-23-2006, 01:41 AM
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Patrick pulls Carey Price after the 9th goal he allowed against the Red Wings...Price is embarressed in front of the Home Crowd...Patrick stares him down as though Carey is only to blame for the 9-1 deficit...Carey momentarily takes a seat on the bench and then walks to Boivin and let's him know that he just played his last game as a Hab...

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02-23-2006, 07:10 AM
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He's doing a good job!
I saw him in Halifax and he was always standing on top of the bench trying to see every possible play..he was right into it..

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02-23-2006, 07:17 AM
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Patrick pulls Carey Price after the 9th goal he allowed against the Red Wings...Price is embarressed in front of the Home Crowd...Patrick stares him down as though Carey is only to blame for the 9-1 deficit...Carey momentarily takes a seat on the bench and then walks to Boivin and let's him know that he just played his last game as a Hab...
not funny mister Dynamite

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I don't think I'd want Roy around the team. Just too volatile, you'd never know when he was going to pull a Milbury on you. Gainey's current crew might not seem very exciting, but I trust their patient (over-patient?) reserved approach more than I would Roy. Just an impression.

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02-23-2006, 09:35 AM
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Roy as a coach in Montreal ? Lets see...

-Does he speak French ? check.
-Does he lack experience as a NHL coach ? check
-Is he a friend of the "family" ? check


No further qualifications required, we have a future coach.

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Patrick pulls Carey Price after the 9th goal he allowed against the Red Wings...Price is embarressed in front of the Home Crowd...Patrick stares him down as though Carey is only to blame for the 9-1 deficit...Carey momentarily takes a seat on the bench and then walks to Boivin and let's him know that he just played his last game as a Hab...
this is a spooky look into a possible future.

There is a grain of truth here.... Roy is an emotional man, as is Tremblay. Roy's emotions have gotten the better of him in the past...and maybe again in the future.

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I disagree with Kovalev on the fact Roy is overrated or has sucked.. that being said, I agree with the rest of his comment. Roy disgraced the organization by doing what he did on that fateful day in 95. His jersey shouldn't be hung along with those of dedicated lifelong habs players like Béliveau and co nor should he ever hold any position of any sort with the habs in the future.

It's got nothing to do with his abilities or potential as a coach/GM (I see him more as a GM in the future) but rather with the fact that he shouldn't be allowed to represent this team in any fashion after leaving it to die the way he did.

It's a bit weird that I say this because I don't blame him for wanting out after Tremblay and Houle were made coach and gm. But he should never get a free pass on it either.

Time has healed many wounds for me and I've come to realize that we would have no cup since the late 70's if Roy was never a hab.

Tremblay is gone, Houle is gone, Corey is gone, and Roy is more than retired. I say lets bury the hatchet.

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Time has healed many wounds for me and I've come to realize that we would have no cup since the late 70's if Roy was never a hab.

Tremblay is gone, Houle is gone, Corey is gone, and Roy is more than retired. I say lets bury the hatchet.
Patrick Roy is a winner, will remain a winner

he is taking some experience ( probably some maturity too) in the Q and would be a very good coach, despite I would prefer to see him in GM functions
He is respected all around the league ( so is gainey )

I'd like to see him in the organization, but it will be in 4-5 years, he still has a lot to prove in the Q before taking the step to the nhl...

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Patrick Roy as coach or GM of the Habs? Not in his lifetime.

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He's doing a good job!
I saw him in Halifax and he was always standing on top of the bench trying to see every possible play..he was right into it..
sorry, was this sarcastic? isn't every coach supposed to be doing this?

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Time has healed many wounds for me and I've come to realize that we would have no cup since the late 70's if Roy was never a hab.

Tremblay is gone, Houle is gone, Corey is gone, and Roy is more than retired. I say lets bury the hatchet.
To explain it with a poor analogy, it's not because you have forgiven an ex that cheated on you that you go back with her.

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I dont want that ******* to ever take part in any shape or form of the habs organisation. Anybody who sais they would never put a habs jersey ever again for the rest of their life deserves a big slap in the face. On top of that he's overrated. Of his 18 year career half the years he's pretty much sucked.
He was speaking out of emotion; something you should be used to seeing as this is the Habs' board.

And to say he sucked half of his career? Please. (One of) the best ever.

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i know Roy's an emotional kinda guy, but i think this is just what we need....

I mean Julien never showed emotion, never showed that he cared, words are cheap, actions speak for themselves.

He would command respect from the players, cuz i mean this is Roy, not Julien...

If he can keep himself under control and not make Therrien kind of mistakes, i think he could potentially end up behind the bench one day...heck maybe even after Carbonneau. We all know Montreal coaches dont last long....

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i know Roy's an emotional kinda guy, but i think this is just what we need....

I mean Julien never showed emotion, never showed that he cared, words are cheap, actions speak for themselves.

He would command respect from the players, cuz i mean this is Roy, not Julien...

If he can keep himself under control and not make Therrien kind of mistakes, i think he could potentially end up behind the bench one day...heck maybe even after Carbonneau. We all know Montreal coaches dont last long....

Carbo will stay as long as Gainey stays.
As for Roy he has a better chance at being the coach in Colorado.

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Carbo will be coaching this team for a very long time. One of the reasons were incosistant every season, (one good season one bad season) is because were unstable behind the bench. Carbo is the right man to bring this organisation some stability. He would of never left dallas if he fought his coaching job would only last one our two season in montreal. carbo is here to stay. this team in the not so long future will have a identity like many of the top franchise in the league.

this being said I would love roy back in this organisation. I would love him as GM. This is guy is respected by everyone and with a winning personality like roy we could attract the very best hockey players in the league once again. Alot of people Idiolisized roy growing up. If we would have the chance of landing roy as gm and we dont because of what transpired in the past it would be stupid in my opinion. These type of people only come urond once in a life time, he could instantly change the image of this franchise.

man I would love a carbo roy duo.

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To explain it with a poor analogy, it's not because you have forgiven an ex that cheated on you that you go back with her.
I simply said I would bury the hatchet. That means all his forgiven. Just because you forgive your ex girlfriend, it doesnt mean you want to hook up with her again. It just means you have moved on.

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He was speaking out of emotion; something you should be used to seeing as this is the Habs' board.

And to say he sucked half of his career? Please. (One of) the best ever.
When guys like Hayward and Racicot and other stupid hab goalies had better stats then he did some years as well as Aebisher in his colorado days you know he is overrated a little in terms of leadership and the winner thing just like Messier.

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I simply said I would bury the hatchet. That means all his forgiven. Just because you forgive your ex girlfriend, it doesnt mean you want to hook up with her again. It just means you have moved on.
Exactly, people have moved on, they dont want Roy part of this organization.

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When guys like Hayward and Racicot and other stupid hab goalies had better stats then he did some years as well as Aebisher in his colorado days you know he is overrated a little in terms of leadership and the winner thing just like Messier.
You can't be serious. I suppose Jaques Plante, Ken Dryden, Dominic Hasek and Vladislav Tretiak were all bad goalie too then.

I don't see how you can say Roy was a bad leader and goaltender. All time winningest goalie of all time, 4 Stanley Cups and 3 Smyths speak volumes more than stats do. Best Playoff goalie of all time.

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You can't be serious. I suppose Jaques Plante, Ken Dryden, Dominic Hasek and Vladislav Tretiak were all bad goalie too then.

I don't see how you can say Roy was a bad leader and goaltender. All time winningest goalie of all time, 4 Stanley Cups and 3 Smyths speak volumes more than stats do. Best Playoff goalie of all time.
I never said Roy was a bad leader or goalie. Roy was great obviously. I'm just saying he's a little overrated which is true. People forget or haven't seen the 3 seasons after his first cup run where he was awful as well as the last two years in montreal and a couple years in Colorado where Aebisher had better numbers. Not to mention the ammount of bad 5 hole goals the guy has allowed and yes he has done this in the playoffs too. People only have his 2 cups runs images in their heads and forget how awful he was in other years. Allowing 7 goals in game 7 of the conference finals and you're telling me he's the greatest?

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