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10-25-2003, 04:58 AM
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Dupuis signs

I posted this in the FA Forum but i figured youd like it here as well.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=58269

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Well good. I'm curious to see what the terms are.
How much time do we have before someone has to be placed on waivers?

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Good for you guys. You guys will have more offense than last year if Dupuis signs. Daigle looks great, Marc-Bouchard is playing great......add Dupuis and hopefully Gaborik much better than last year.

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Great News!! Nice to have one of our scorers back. I wonder how long it will take for him to join the team??? Anyone know???
Welcome Back Pascal!!!

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Great News!! Nice to have one of our scorers back. I wonder how long it will take for him to join the team??? Anyone know???
Welcome Back Pascal!!!
Im guessing within 4-5 games he might be able to step in and slowly work his way up (hopefully).

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I just hope it doesn't take him a month or more to look like himself (conditioning/timing/etc.). That is the fear, however, as he is over a month behind just about everyone else in the league.

Working out with the Concordia University team is not the same as playing.

We'll see though. The Wild could sure use his speedy forecheck and willingness to battle in the corners, not to mention whatever offense he's able to provide.

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Pioneer Press said hes in Tampa now, but he wont be able to play tonight. They say he will be in the lineup on Tuesday against the Sabres.

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any speculation on how much Dupuis got per year?

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any speculation on how much Dupuis got per year?
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He ends up with slightly less than the Wild offered him at the start of the season. Nice job Walsh!

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It's basically the same deal they offered before the start of training camp, with some money moved from year 2 to year 1.

What a waste. I wish some of the local reporters would've tried to call Walsh on that when they spoke with him.

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It's basically the same deal they offered before the start of training camp, with some money moved from year 2 to year 1.

What a waste. I wish some of the local reporters would've tried to call Walsh on that when they spoke with him.

---That may be the Wild's spin on it, but it doesn't really seem like the same deal to me. Up until the start of the season, the Wild had offered Dupuis a choice between a one-year deal at $385K or a four-year deal for $3.125 million starting at $550K in the first season, which averages out to about $781K per season. This deal pays him $2.508 mil over 3 years, starting at $733K this year, an average of $836K per season. It's less total compensation, but it's a higher annual salary.

This seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me, and there's really no excuse for the two sides not coming to this agreement back in August.

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---That may be the Wild's spin on it, but it doesn't really seem like the same deal to me. Up until the start of the season, the Wild had offered Dupuis a choice between a one-year deal at $385K or a four-year deal for $3.125 million starting at $550K in the first season, which averages out to about $781K per season. This deal pays him $2.508 mil over 3 years, starting at $733K this year, an average of $836K per season. It's less total compensation, but it's a higher annual salary.

This seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me, and there's really no excuse for the two sides not coming to this agreement back in August.
I don't think we can assume the 4 year deal was the Wild's last offer before the season. In September when speaking about the Wild's
$3.125mil/4yr deal, Lynn plainly said the team was willing to move from their base offer, but felt the Dupuis camp was being unreasonable with their $1mil/1yr and $2.4mil/2 year proposals (averaging $1-1.2mil a year).

The Wild moving from an average of $781K per season to $836K per season is very reasonable. I don't see a reason to doubt that the Wild proposed a very similar deal around the 6th of October as the paper states.

Afterall, Bob McKenzie's take last week was that the Wild and Dupuis were about $40K per year apart seems to back that up (there is a 55K difference between their 4yr deal and the October 6th 3yr deal).

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---That may be the Wild's spin on it, but it doesn't really seem like the same deal to me. Up until the start of the season, the Wild had offered Dupuis a choice between a one-year deal at $385K or a four-year deal for $3.125 million starting at $550K in the first season, which averages out to about $781K per season. This deal pays him $2.508 mil over 3 years, starting at $733K this year, an average of $836K per season. It's less total compensation, but it's a higher annual salary.
You're missing the contract offer made just before training camp. (See links below.) Dupuis could've signed back then and made the same amount of money over the life of the contract. Or, perhaps gotten this very deal, hard to say.

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This seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me, and there's really no excuse for the two sides not coming to this agreement back in August.
Absolutely. Or at least before training camp started.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...ey/7105080.htm
"Two weeks ago, the sides reportedly were $375,000 apart on a two-year deal. The Wild offered Dupuis $550,000 and $800,000 a season while Walsh countered at $750,000 and $975,000.
Earlier, the team put on the table a three-year offer for $2.525 million ($650,000, $875,000 and $1 million), adding $300,000 a year in performance bonuses."

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...ey/7111964.htm
"Dupuis hit his mark late Friday when he signed a three-year contract worth $2.525 million in base salary, with a chance to earn an additional $300,000 a season in performance bonuses.
"It's a fair deal for both sides," said Dupuis, a left wing who was paid $350,000 in his second full NHL season. But the episode did not have a win-win feel to it.
The deal is for $750,000 this season, although Dupuis' three-week holdout cost him about $17,000. It will pay $775,000 next year and $1 million in 2005-06. It essentially was the same offer Dupuis rejected before training camp, except that package was for $650,000 in the first year and $875,000 in the second."

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You're missing the contract offer made just before training camp. (See links below.) Dupuis could've signed back then and made the same amount of money over the life of the contract. Or, perhaps gotten this very deal, hard to say.



Absolutely. Or at least before training camp started.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...ey/7105080.htm
"Two weeks ago, the sides reportedly were $375,000 apart on a two-year deal. The Wild offered Dupuis $550,000 and $800,000 a season while Walsh countered at $750,000 and $975,000.
Earlier, the team put on the table a three-year offer for $2.525 million ($650,000, $875,000 and $1 million), adding $300,000 a year in performance bonuses."

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pionee...ey/7111964.htm
"Dupuis hit his mark late Friday when he signed a three-year contract worth $2.525 million in base salary, with a chance to earn an additional $300,000 a season in performance bonuses.
"It's a fair deal for both sides," said Dupuis, a left wing who was paid $350,000 in his second full NHL season. But the episode did not have a win-win feel to it.
The deal is for $750,000 this season, although Dupuis' three-week holdout cost him about $17,000. It will pay $775,000 next year and $1 million in 2005-06. It essentially was the same offer Dupuis rejected before training camp, except that package was for $650,000 in the first year and $875,000 in the second."

---That deal was offered right before the season started, not right before camp. See this article from October 9th.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/4144258.html

"Before this round of talks, the Wild had two offers on the table: one year for $375,000 -- a 10 percent raise from last season -- and four years for $3.125 million."

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---That deal was offered right before the season started, not right before camp. See this article from October 9th.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/4144258.html

"Before this round of talks, the Wild had two offers on the table: one year for $375,000 -- a 10 percent raise from last season -- and four years for $3.125 million."
That was published Oct. 9th. The reporter probably didn't have the whole story at that point.

The important quote from a more recent article is this:
"The deal is for $750,000 this season, although Dupuis' three-week holdout cost him about $17,000. It will pay $775,000 next year and $1 million in 2005-06. It essentially was the same offer Dupuis rejected before training camp, except that package was for $650,000 in the first year and $875,000 in the second."

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Aha.. interesting incentives. I'd like to know when these came up in negotiations. Guaranteed money is guaranteed money, but then the guaranteed money changes.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1330/4178866.html

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