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03-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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Official Non-Rangers Trade Thread

Rangers summary of trade deadline
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Hmm, Roloson to EDM for a first....I'd do that over whatever the Yotes were asking for Cujo, mustve been about the same, Rolo is younger.

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now does this open the floodgates? Does it set the market for other GM's? #1 Goaltender is good for one high pick? so other high caliber players are worth high picks/depth players?

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Yikes. I would've dealt Weekes for a 1st!

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Yikes. I would've dealt Weekes for a 1st!
we cant deal weekes even for a first, come on what if henke gets hurt, god forbid? than what we scramble for a goalie or montoya suddenly has the season on his shoulders? plus what about the lockeroom chemistry, there is no more supportive backup in hockey in my opinion than the way weekes has been for the rangers, hes never opened his mouth and complained

guys who can be moved from our roster
hossa
niemmen
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hollweg

those are the only names i can see sather even contemplating moving, poti has played too well, the roszvial-malik pair has been to good, tyuts and kasper arent moving and strudwick wouldnt bring back anything and hes a leader

as far as fowards only rucchin, betts, and ward are players that would be desireable, as oppossed to the untouchables (the czechs, nylander, orts, moore) but really what will any of those 3 bring back?

i could see niemmen being moved, maybe hossa, i doubt anyone wants orr and hollweg i cant see being traded unless we are getting a gritty player back

just my take, if we make a move its gonna be niemmen, hossa, mid level prospects or some picks

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I agree that we need Weekes, but a 1st round pick? What's going to help us more in the future, Weekes or a 1st round pick? Obviously the first-rounder.

It's a tough decision.

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Jan: I can't agree. We are still in rebuild phase. If a team, perhaps the Canucks, offer a number 1 choice, we must make the move. We still need to sacrifice, if necessary, the short term. I'm not sure Renney believes we can compete for the Cup this year. We need to accumulate more assets

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I agree that we need Weekes, but a 1st round pick? What's going to help us more in the future, Weekes or a 1st round pick? Obviously the first-rounder.

It's a tough decision.

or weekes or kesler, id take kesler, we can use a young forward with size in the NHL.

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Jan: I can't agree. We are still in rebuild phase. If a team, perhaps the Canucks, offer a number 1 choice, we must make the move. We still need to sacrifice, if necessary, the short term. I'm not sure Renney believes we can compete for the Cup this year. We need to accumulate more assets
your gonna sacrifice this season and this teams chemistry for a 1st round pick? have you seen our first round pick track record? malhotra, brendl, lundmark, and those are some of the better ones who at least made it to the nhl

im sorry guys but there is no way I trade weekes and im pretty sure sather is not gonna risk sacrificing this season trading weekes, imagine we win 16 more games and finish 3rd overall, and we dealt weekes to the avs for a 1st round pick and david aebischer to be our backup. after the 1st game in the first round lundqvist goes down due to an injury, god forbid, and then we have to go with montoya or abeischer the rest of the way, 2 guys who have had no affiliation with this team for most of the season

is that the message you want to send to jagr and prucha and other guys who worked their butts off all year, well that number 1 pick man looked real nice?

no way

sather will tweak this team, he wont deal any important kids but he also will not take away any key member from this roster

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or weekes or kesler, id take kesler, we can use a young forward with size in the NHL.
From what i've been hearing around the league, Vancouver won't be trading for a goalie. Weekes is here to stay this season.

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Hmm, Roloson to EDM for a first....I'd do that over whatever the Yotes were asking for Cujo, mustve been about the same, Rolo is younger.

can we put younger in quotes?

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your gonna sacrifice this season and this teams chemistry for a 1st round pick? have you seen our first round pick track record? malhotra, brendl, lundmark, and those are some of the better ones who at least made it to the nhl

im sorry guys but there is no way I trade weekes and im pretty sure sather is not gonna risk sacrificing this season trading weekes, imagine we win 16 more games and finish 3rd overall, and we dealt weekes to the avs for a 1st round pick and david aebischer to be our backup. after the 1st game in the first round lundqvist goes down due to an injury, god forbid, and then we have to go with montoya or abeischer the rest of the way, 2 guys who have had no affiliation with this team for most of the season

is that the message you want to send to jagr and prucha and other guys who worked their butts off all year, well that number 1 pick man looked real nice?

no way

sather will tweak this team, he wont deal any important kids but he also will not take away any key member from this roster
The message is we ride Henke in the playoffs He is our franchise goalie.Only one goalie plays in the tournament. There is no message by trading Weekes. What happens, perish the thought, Jagr goes down? There is an element of luck in the playoffs. We take the chance, grab the 1st, use it perhaps to trade up in the draft for a stud center

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The message is we ride Henke in the playoffs He is our franchise goalie.Only one goalie plays in the tournament. There is no message by trading Weekes. What happens, perish the thought, Jagr goes down? There is an element of luck in the playoffs. We take the chance, grab the 1st, use it perhaps to trade up in the draft for a stud center
well then by that rationale we should trade jagr since he is the leading scorer in the league, heck he could net us a first round pick this year and next for rebuilding? come on dude, who knows if the rangers will be this good next year or 3 years down the line? sather isnt gonna mess with chemistry. we havent had CHEMISTRY in about 7 years

obviously a #1 pick would be nice but the team that need a goalie the worst, the oilers made that deal, i dont see anyone else throwing around a 1st for weekes

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your gonna sacrifice this season and this teams chemistry for a 1st round pick? have you seen our first round pick track record? malhotra, brendl, lundmark, and those are some of the better ones who at least made it to the nhl

im sorry guys but there is no way I trade weekes and im pretty sure sather is not gonna risk sacrificing this season trading weekes, imagine we win 16 more games and finish 3rd overall, and we dealt weekes to the avs for a 1st round pick and david aebischer to be our backup. after the 1st game in the first round lundqvist goes down due to an injury, god forbid, and then we have to go with montoya or abeischer the rest of the way, 2 guys who have had no affiliation with this team for most of the season

is that the message you want to send to jagr and prucha and other guys who worked their butts off all year, well that number 1 pick man looked real nice?

no way

sather will tweak this team, he wont deal any important kids but he also will not take away any key member from this roster
So you wouldn't trade Weekes for the Av's first rounder (upper teens, lower 20's) AND Aebischer...your crazy man, no way in hell do the Av's do that anyways

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well then by that rationale we should trade jagr since he is the leading scorer in the league, heck he could net us a first round pick this year and next for rebuilding? come on dude, who knows if the rangers will be this good next year or 3 years down the line? sather isnt gonna mess with chemistry. we havent had CHEMISTRY in about 7 years

obviously a #1 pick would be nice but the team that need a goalie the worst, the oilers made that deal, i dont see anyone else throwing around a 1st for weekes
Here's the difference. Without Weekes we still compete. Without Jagr we're finished. BTW, IF we were not in the playoffs, I WOULD trade Jagr and receive the best package possible. To me, its still about building. Weekes will never lead us to the promised land. Henke could. Next year if we sit in the Isles position, trade Jagr.

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So you wouldn't trade Weekes for the Av's first rounder (upper teens, lower 20's) AND Aebischer...your crazy man, no way in hell do the Av's do that anyways
I don't... do you realize how lucky this team has been healthwise? do you remember how many players we had hurt last year, the year before, etc and etc

this team could win a round or two in the playoffs, im not messing with chemistry for a draft pick that may turn out to be nothing

im not advocating we trade for bertuzzi or witt or any other vet, id do simon for niemmen and see what we can do in getting a 7th d-man, and see where this team goes

but we are currently in 2006 and the 2006 playoffs are coming up, im not concerned after 2009 and some kid who may never even wear a ranger uniform other than on draft day

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your gonna sacrifice this season and this teams chemistry for a 1st round pick?
You write this because you know that moving Weekes would end the season and destroy the team's chemistry? I don't see it.

If Lundqvist went down for a short stretch (and has no injury history so we cannot call that a likely possibility) Montoya can be given the opportunity. If Lundqvist goes down for a long stretch (meaning into the playoffs), this season is done with or without Weekes and fans should be happy they've gotten a #1 to ease the blow of that.

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but we are currently in 2006 and the 2006 playoffs are coming up, im not concerned after 2009 and some kid who may never even wear a ranger uniform other than on draft day
You should be concerned about 2009 over 2006, this is called a REBUILD. Trading Weekes for Aebischer will not mess up chemistry that much. if at all. And a FIRST round pick that we can package with our own first rounder for a top-10 pick, without giving up Montoya, hell I am all for it

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You write this because you know that moving Weekes would end the season?

I don't see it. If Lundqvist went down for a short stretch (and has no injury history so we cannot call that a likely possibility) Montoya can be given the opportunity. If Lundqvist goes down for a long stretch (meaning into the playoffs), this season is done with or without Weekes and fans should be happy they've gotten a #1 to ease the blow of that.
Don't forget we would have Aebischer too

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No that can't be right the all knowing Eklund reported yesterday that he was going to Tampa...

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Yikes. I would've dealt Weekes for a 1st!
You're not kidding.

Nonis wasn't lying when he said the price was high - a first rounder is ludicrous.

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Is Lowe on crack?How can you trade for Roloson thinking he is going to lead the Oilers on a cup run?Doug Risebrough must have pictures of Kevin with the some chippies.Come on

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To be honest with you, that team has another year or so left after this one to put it together - they're relatively young. I might have gambled on Noronen for a lesser price, and if he doesn't work out I take my money and run towards the hottest tender on the market this summer. Perhaps he's feeling the pressure, but I'm not sure that they are in a "must win" situation.

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or weekes or kesler, id take kesler, we can use a young forward with size in the NHL.
JO41 you have been hot lately. I would love to have Kesler also. would be a great pick up. I would go w/Alvaro as backup.

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