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03-17-2006, 06:49 AM
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it's clear what the Habs need.

I can think of no better game to measure up what the Habs need in the off season. Last night both teams brought thier "A" game.
The Habs without Markov as the PP quarterback were ok, but not extra dangerous. If Gainey can get another PP quarterback to play on the right side with Markov on the left side, the PP will kill.
SO Gainey must focus on a D man, that is extremly mobile, plays on the right side, can play 20min per game and big enough to put a few hits on the opposition. The closer Gainey can get to the perfect fit, the better the Habs defence will get.

Wingers, the Habs have lots. Good quality wingers. More to come.
Try as much as he can, Ribs just can't create enough space for himself and rarely wins the one on one againts the top clubs.
Gainey knows a top centre is needed. That the prospects won't be ready in time for next year, so there you have the answer, buy one.

Yes Gainey can add more grit players but the two BIG TASKS for the off season is to FIX the two holes.

Gainey will have to pay to fix the holes but then again, he has the war chest to do it now. Landing both players is still not easy but at least MONEY does talk.

I am posting this today because yesterdays game was such a great example. When the habs win, everyone is happy but you don't learn much. When the Habs play thier best and still lose you learn a lot.

Put Markov back in, put Markov #2 beside him on the PP. Add a top center to scare the opposition and force them to play more thier defencive forwards to matchup against the second line.
Yesterdays game would not be the same at all. Fix the two holes with two perfect fit's and the Habs will look transformed. Many would be stunned at the differance.

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03-17-2006, 06:54 AM
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I can think of no better game to measure up what the Habs need in the off season. Last night both teams brought thier "A" game.
The Habs without Markov as the PP quarterback were ok, but not extra dangerous. If Gainey can get another PP quarterback to play on the right side with Markov on the left side, the PP will kill.
SO Gainey must focus on a D man, that is extremly mobile, plays on the right side, can play 20min per game and big enough to put a few hits on the opposition. The closer Gainey can get to the perfect fit, the better the Habs defence will get.

Wingers, the Habs have lots. Good quality wingers. More to come.
Try as much as he can, Ribs just can't create enough space for himself and rarely wins the one on one againts the top clubs.
Gainey knows a top centre is needed. That the prospects won't be ready in time for next year, so there you have the answer, buy one.

Yes Gainey can add more grit players but the two BIG TASKS for the off season is to FIX the two holes.

Gainey will have to pay to fix the holes but then again, he has the war chest to do it now. Landing both players is still not easy but at least MONEY does talk.

I am posting this today because yesterdays game was such a great example. When the habs win, everyone is happy but you don't learn much. When the Habs play thier best and still lose you learn a lot.

Put Markov back in, put Markov #2 beside him on the PP. Add a top center to scare the opposition and force them to play more thier defencive forwards to matchup against the second line.
Yesterdays game would not be the same at all. Fix the two holes with two perfect fit's and the Habs will look transformed. Many would be stunned at the differance.
Are you suggesting we clone Andrei Markov? I'm not sure if that's legal yet...plus, I'd rather clone Chara.

Maybe you were talking about Danny Markov...but he's no PP specialist.

Remaining on topic, you're right about the two holes. They're pretty glaring.

 
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Gainey knows a top centre is needed.
Are you Gainey?

Didn't think so.

So stop talking as him.

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Are you Gainey?

Didn't think so.

So stop talking as him.
These ARE Gainey's words, as publicly stated previous to the trade deadline. Maybe you missed it.

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Are you suggesting we clone Andrei Markov? I'm not sure if that's legal yet...plus, I'd rather clone Chara.

Maybe you were talking about Danny Markov...but he's no PP specialist.

Remaining on topic, you're right about the two holes. They're pretty glaring.
I don't think Chara is going anywhere. The Sens will do what must be done to keep him.

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Are you Gainey?

Didn't think so.

So stop talking as him.
Everyone knows we need a top center, even Leaf fans...Gainey has even admitted.

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Montreal's transition game needs improvement. That means better puck-moving defensemen (while maintaining/improving current strength on the blueline) and improving the wingers. Too many wingers are positioned poorly in transition which is really what kills the team's flow and ability to generate offense or play solid defense.

I think special teams take a backseat to this.

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Everyone knows we need a top center, even Leaf fans...Gainey has even admitted.
Where?

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I've been waiting to see a good 1-2 punch down the middle for a long time and I think Koivu's certainly a key part of that equation, but you have to find him a complementary center with just as much offensive punch and the only guy on the UFA market that I see fitting the description is Arnott, but with the season he's having, I'm not holding my breath, he'll likely be the most coveted center in the entire league and should easily get 5M+.

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I agree with Munchausen for the 2nd center we would have too get via trade. Get the puck moving d-men with Ufa. Be I do feel we are getting close too have a very nice team. I would love for us too be like Carolina, always moving never give up ect... AND FAST

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The habs need fans who carry them to victory.

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I think Ribs had a good game, made good plays and all. So I'm not sold on the center. But during the game I was thinking about a new D also. Sourray is playing better hockey then a few months ago, I think. But a new D that can play the PP, hit and log 20+ mins is essential for next year to take off pressure of other Habs Ds and in case of injury

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A big center would be great to have if he's able to produce mopre than Ribeiro or Saku , and at a reasonable salary . If not , i don't see the point to trade Ribeiro just for to say we trade him .

But by now , i think that Ribeiro is not our #1 problem ; Zednik , Ryder are not producing and they are doing giveaways everytime they touch the puck . We were thinking that Ribs was in a slump when he was playing with Ryder ( and Dagenais ) , but now , it seems more clear that the problem was Ryder .Even Saku is having a big slump , playing with him .

Zednik ; i don't have to say anything about him , we all know ..

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03-17-2006, 12:06 PM
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I think Ribs had a good game, made good plays and all. So I'm not sold on the center. But during the game I was thinking about a new D also. Sourray is playing better hockey then a few months ago, I think. But a new D that can play the PP, hit and log 20+ mins is essential for next year to take off pressure of other Habs Ds and in case of injury
I agree. The 2 things the Habs need for next year is a scoring Winger and a PP quaterback

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Our wing situation is good and will only improve as our young guys develop. We're not ready to contend yet anyways, so we're best off letting guys like Higgins, Ryder, Perezhogin, Kostisyn, Latendresse mature and refine their skills.

I agree that a puck moving D-man is a huge need on this team. Rivet/Souray/Komisarek are 3 good/very good (depending on how they are playing) physical defensemen. Unfortunately, none are great passers or playmakers. Markov really opens up our vertical passing game and allows us to put more pressure on opposing D, and we just aren't the same team without him. Redden would be the ideal FA signing, obviously, but a lesser guy could really make a difference. Besides, I think Souray's a perfect fit as a 3rd pairing D with PP and some PK time. IMO this is a big key to taking the next step.

Ribs has been playing much better lately, but he doesn't fit with this team. Obviously BG/Carbo have picked Koivu as their small scoring center, but we need some size down the middle that can play a regular shift. Plekanec is excellent in his current role and will only become better with time. I don't think BG is using a 3rd line in a checking role - more like line 1, line 2, line 3 all getting about the same even strength time and he matches these lines up with the opposing teams' top 3 lines. This seems to be working and I think it will stay this way. Both Pleks and Koivu are warriors, but a big second line center would really make a huge difference in line matchups. My ideal choice is Jason Arnott who's a UFA but there are others (FA or trade).

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Didn't Higgins play centre in college and with Hamilton last year?

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Didn't Higgins play centre in college and with Hamilton last year?
Could be but he plasy much better along the boards.

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Didn't Markov use to be a Center?

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I've been thinking a lot about this and what the Habs need is a new stanley cup.

Seriously, the 24 last ones are getting old and Habs need a new one. How about we take a short cut and trade a couple of 1st + Koivu + Kovalev and Higgins for the rights to the stanly cup during the lockout year.


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These ARE Gainey's words, as publicly stated previous to the trade deadline. Maybe you missed it.
In his exact words, there was never mention of a "top" anything. He said a d-man for 20-22 minutes was needed and he repeated it enough that we know it's his priority or at least should be.
He mentionned a right handed center also but he could mean as much for the 4th line as the 2nd.
Actually , when someone mentionned a d-man to Bob like Witt (iirc) he said :he won't do because he plays 30 minutes.
Don't expect top players this summer, unless we can trade our crap for gold.

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Its too bad Streit didn't fill that void.

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We need a scorer more than anything. Period.

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The habs need fans who carry them to victory.
Go Habs Go were going on when it was 3-1 Carolina , i dont think you would see this in Toronto... Just because of people whines on the boards dosent mean the fans are not great.

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Arnott and Redden makes us contenders

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