HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Notices

Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

HF Top 100 on Fox

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-28-2003, 01:35 AM
  #26
Evilo
Registered User
 
Evilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: France
Country: France
Posts: 26,715
vCash: 432
IMO the list is awful.
If I didn't miss it, Konstantin Koltsov for instance is not in the top 100 ? Nor Brroks Orpik ?
Now would Burke refuse a Fedor Fedorov for Konstantin Koltsov deal ?
Yeah right...

Evilo is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 01:57 AM
  #27
Still a Bruin fan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 303
vCash: 500
With this hap-hazard effort, HF took a step back in their credibility as a source for hockey's prospects.

Still a Bruin fan is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 05:03 AM
  #28
Habsfunk
Registered User
 
Habsfunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: BC
Posts: 2,854
vCash: 500
I'm not a prospect buff like some people, but this list looks pretty sad to me. From a Habs perspective I would switch Komisarek and Katsytsin. Hossa is also too high. Most Habs fans will tell you Perezhogin, Higgins, and possibly Hainsey, are better prospects than he is. I would say Hainsey is too high as well. Perezhogin and Higgins should be switched with Hainsey and Hossa.

Also, 12 2003s in the top 25 seems pretty skewed. I know it was a deep draft, but its not that good.

Habsfunk is online now  
Old
10-28-2003, 05:24 AM
  #29
Dr_Chimera*
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: THE Underground Lair
Posts: 5,955
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to Dr_Chimera* Send a message via MSN to Dr_Chimera*
Ugh... Even Ivan Huml wouldn't put himself this high.

Dr_Chimera* is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 05:33 AM
  #30
Gags1288
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,354
vCash: 500
I agree with those who said that the list put too much weight on this last draft, way too much weight. I'm a flyers fan and I can admit that Carter is not a top 25 prospect, top 50 maybe. For the Flyers, Woywitka should be slightly higher, Carter lower, and Richards is about right. Also, I believe Pitkanen is a top 4 prospect with Lehtonen, Fleury, and Spezza(who isn't a prospect anymore). I think that he's half a step above Staal and Horton, but that could be my bias a little. Some other things that I noticed are that Ruutu is way too low, should be #5, imo. Suter and Coburn above Miller and Ruutu is a joke, imo.

Gags1288 is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 09:34 AM
  #31
Slowe
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 359
vCash: 500
I'll speak from a hawks fan point of view mostly because I can't say I've seen many other prospects. I don't know about Leighton that high, but I won't complain. He'll be earning a lot more respect in the near future. Just because he wasn't a highly touted first rounder doesn't mean things can't change. Vorobiev is too low. The whole time I thought they simply forgot him, because there's no way he just squeaks in when all those average 2003 prospects are so high. At the very least put him above Yakubov. Vorobiev is doing well for himself in the NHL while Yakubov still needs to play consistently in the AHL.

Slowe is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 09:35 AM
  #32
Stock Rocks
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Billerica, Mass.
Posts: 3,947
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac
I want to put together my own list but I am too lazy at the moment, maybe later.
Terrible list. If Jason Spezza is on it, then Patrice Bergeron, who has 7 points in 9 games with the B's and is hands-down one of the top rookies playing in the NHL this season, SHOULD be somewhere on the frigging thing. This is why I hate these lists. They are more about where a player was drafted and less about what the player has actually done to justify such a lofty ranking. I also perceive a distinct Western Canadian bias on this list as well. A big thumbs down to Malloy and whoever else helped him with this.

Stock Rocks is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 10:35 AM
  #33
David A. Rainer
Registered User
 
David A. Rainer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Huntington Beach
Country: Italy
Posts: 7,293
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to David A. Rainer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stock Rocks
Terrible list. If Jason Spezza is on it, then Patrice Bergeron, who has 7 points in 9 games with the B's and is hands-down one of the top rookies playing in the NHL this season, SHOULD be somewhere on the frigging thing.
I think the list was compiled before the season started. If you read some of the comments, it mentions that some prospects that are already in the NHL might get a shot at making the NHL. So it appears the list was done about 1 month before the season even started.

__________________
Saxon Sports Information and Research
David A. Rainer is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 10:47 AM
  #34
Stock Rocks
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Billerica, Mass.
Posts: 3,947
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathFromAbove
I think the list was compiled before the season started. If you read some of the comments, it mentions that some prospects that are already in the NHL might get a shot at making the NHL. So it appears the list was done about 1 month before the season even started.
Ahhh. Well, if that's the case, my apologies.

But they should do a mid-season list and update it at the very least.

Stock Rocks is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 11:05 AM
  #35
DutchLeafsfan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Country: Netherlands
Posts: 4,905
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to DutchLeafsfan Send a message via MSN to DutchLeafsfan
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathFromAbove
I think the list was compiled before the season started. If you read some of the comments, it mentions that some prospects that are already in the NHL might get a shot at making the NHL. So it appears the list was done about 1 month before the season even started.
That's because the write-ups for the prospects weren't done for the list but are quoted from their scouting profiles here at HF, some of which probably haven't been updated since the start of the season...

DutchLeafsfan is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 02:39 PM
  #36
David A. Rainer
Registered User
 
David A. Rainer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Huntington Beach
Country: Italy
Posts: 7,293
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to David A. Rainer
Don't sweat it Buffaloed. We all skip over threads sometime.

:moon: <---- trying it out for the first time

David A. Rainer is offline  
Old
10-28-2003, 10:24 PM
  #37
petec1978*
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Where Zell Miller's
Country: United States
Posts: 3,401
vCash: 500
Alex Polushin behind Garnet Exelby?

Dropped about 50 spots in half a year? The 2003 draft wasn't THAT deep!

-Pete Choquette

petec1978* is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 05:07 AM
  #38
A Good Flying Bird*
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Ann Arbor
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,359
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchLeafsfan
That's because the write-ups for the prospects weren't done for the list but are quoted from their scouting profiles here at HF, some of which probably haven't been updated since the start of the season...
Some of those profiles haven;t been updated a year at least.

A Good Flying Bird* is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 05:32 AM
  #39
Roughneck
Registered User
 
Roughneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Calgary
Country: Ireland
Posts: 8,625
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Roughneck
Phaneuf at 19??? How can you rank him that low with the excellent summer he's had? And then have a guy like Colaiacovo 4 spots behind him?

If Coburn and Suter are top10, Dion had better be.

Roughneck is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 05:57 AM
  #40
Enoch
This is my boomstick
 
Enoch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chattanooga TN
Country: United States
Posts: 12,490
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck

If Coburn and Suter are top10, Dion had better be.
Not necessarily.

Enoch is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 06:02 AM
  #41
VO #23
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calling out silly ass HF trolls since 1997
Country: Iraq
Posts: 5,451
vCash: 500
No Eric Fehr? This guy has been amazing to start the season (almost a goal a game pace), and had a great Team Canada summer camp. I realize this was done earlier in the year, but Fehr should be in the top 50, especially when Shawn Belle is number 50.

Bold statement of the day: If the draft was held today instead of in June, Eric Fehr goes top 10.

VO #23 is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 06:15 AM
  #42
Roughneck
Registered User
 
Roughneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Calgary
Country: Ireland
Posts: 8,625
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Roughneck
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch
Not necessarily.
Well, if Phaneuf is better than Coburn (and all d-men in the dub) right now, its only fair. And definitely when he's showing offensive potential that wasn't really seen the year he was drafted.

Roughneck is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 07:27 AM
  #43
Blatny Spears
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Toxostoma rufum
Posts: 911
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by petec1978
Alex Polushin behind Garnet Exelby?
What has Polushin done to warrant being ranked ahead of Exelby? He's just another so-so big Russian stiff, the kind of which Tampa's loaded up on the last few years. If they're lucky, they'll be able to deal him for a guy like Mark Savard, like we did with ex-Tampa flotsam Ruslan Zainullin.

Blatny Spears is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 07:42 AM
  #44
Stock Rocks
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Billerica, Mass.
Posts: 3,947
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VO #23

Bold statement of the day: If the draft was held today instead of in June, Eric Fehr goes top 10.
I'd buy that. I read that Boston was very high on Fehr and was tempted to take him 16th before deciding to move down for the extra picks.

I'd also say that Patrice Bergeron goes top-15 if the draft was held today.

Stock Rocks is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 07:46 AM
  #45
thestonedkoala
Guest
 
Country:
Posts: n/a
vCash:
I agree with the rankings of the Wild prospects...

 
Old
10-29-2003, 07:49 AM
  #46
Other Dave
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New and improved in TO
Posts: 2,025
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gags1288
I believe Pitkanen is a top 4 prospect with Lehtonen, Fleury, and Spezza(who isn't a prospect anymore).
Spezza isn't a rookie, but he was still a prospect coming into this season. See http://www.hockeysfuture.com/whatmakesaprospect.php for more information.

Other Dave

Other Dave is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 07:54 AM
  #47
King of Stankonia
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: aka Kubina_Fan Blues fan in Ontario loving Calgary
Posts: 762
vCash: 500
Send a message via Yahoo to King of Stankonia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von Shark
Says in rather large print at the top of the article .
The question was intended as a rhetorical one :p.

King of Stankonia is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 07:57 AM
  #48
Hossa
Registered User
 
Hossa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Abroad
Posts: 9,222
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blatny Spears
What has Polushin done to warrant being ranked ahead of Exelby? He's just another so-so big Russian stiff, the kind of which Tampa's loaded up on the last few years. If they're lucky, they'll be able to deal him for a guy like Mark Savard, like we did with ex-Tampa flotsam Ruslan Zainullin.
Zainullin has never had more than 1 goal or 4 points in the Russian Super League. Polushin had 5 goals and 11 points last year. He's also on pace for much more this season.

Furthermore, Polushin has been a stand out at the World Juniors. He has played on the top line for two straight years, and had about a point a game both times.

Just because he's not in the NHL doesn't mean he's not a good prospect. For every Ruslan Zainullin, there is an Alex Frolov too.

Hossa is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 08:51 AM
  #49
Blatny Spears
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Toxostoma rufum
Posts: 911
vCash: 500
Mmmmmmmore like: for every bakers dozen of Zainullins there's a Frolov.

Blatny Spears is offline  
Old
10-29-2003, 09:17 AM
  #50
Slats432
Registered User
 
Slats432's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,442
vCash: 500
As an Oiler fan even I think that JDD is too high. Lots of pretty darn good tenders ranked below him at 32.

Slats432 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.