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05-11-2017, 09:34 AM
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But he had a successful minor league team which was DEPRIVED of 1st round talent which does lead me to be more optimistic.

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So do we get a second gm for Rochester you think?

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I still have doubts. It's pretty hard to flop in Pittsburgh when you have Crosby and Malkin. Even Bylsma won a cup there.
Forget about Pittsburgh. Look at the job he did with WBS, particularly the overall team success and identification of talent, and following development how that talent translated to the NHL. Sprinkle in his hiring of Sullivan and there should be plenty of room for optimism.

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"That connects strongly with players and staff around him"

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I still have doubts. It's pretty hard to flop in Pittsburgh when you have Crosby and Malkin. Even Bylsma won a cup there.
What is the reasoning for how well his teams he built have performed in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton?

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So do we get a second gm for Rochester you think?
I hope so.

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Is HF Sabre fans united right now!? Also, I could see Chris Taylor named HC of the Amerks. He played with Botterill, coached the Amerks for 3 years and then went to WBS this past season as an assistant. Although, I'm sure whom ever he hires as a HC in Buffalo will likely have a say in the AHL HC.

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I think we can all get behind this hire
Honestly, not really being in the know, that's all I could've hoped for. A GM that everyone (as many as possible at least) could be optimistic about.

Now the coaching decision I think will be considerably more divisive.

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05-11-2017, 09:43 AM
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Hoping for:

Coach - housley

Rochester gm - someone who's not Jason

Rochester coach - up and coming Jason likes

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Let it be noted that most people didn't have him on the top of their lists at the start, and even so, all seem satisfied, optimistic, and supportive.

For when inevitably someone critiques a move later on and in comes the barrage of "ugh these fans hate on everything with their mass psychosis of agendas and hateful hate."

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Good hire. What he does with his coaching staff will be the first big test and will tell us a lot about him and what he plans on doing with this team.

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Let it be noted that most people didn't have him on the top of their lists at the start, and even so, all seem satisfied, optimistic, and supportive.

For when inevitably someone critiques a move later on and in comes the barrage of "ugh these fans hate on everything with their mass psychosis of agendas and hateful hate."
I wasn't sold on him when he was first brought up as a candidate, but more and more evidence kept piling up that he's exactly the right guy for the job and I'm thrilled he was hired. The way Pens fans talk about him in such glowing terms is what really put him over the top for me, every account I've read is that he's great at what he does, and they're very sad to be losing him. Speaks volumes when sharp hockey fans talk that way about a team executive.

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Coach - housley

Rochester gm - someone who's not Jason

Rochester coach - up and coming Jason likes
I wonder if he looks at Chris Taylor who, presumably, Botterill had a hand in hiring as an assistant in W-B/S.

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Forget about Pittsburgh. Look at the job he did with WBS, particularly the overall team success and identification of talent, and following development how that talent translated to the NHL. Sprinkle in his hiring of Sullivan and there should be plenty of room for optimism.
This is why Penguins fans have been so high on him for years. The Baby Pens made the AHL playoffs every year of Botterill's tenure, despite lacking early draft talent and constantly being raided due to excessive injuries being an annual story in Pittsburgh. Not only has Botterill kept WBS relevant, he's given the Penguins a consistent pipeline in (cheap) talent.

Then there's the fact that he's masterful when it comes to dealing with the cap. The amount of paper moves and weird oddities that he and the Pens had to get everything out of to be cap compliant with 10 guys injured is something I can barely wrap my head around.

There are obvious questions about how good of a GM he'll be, who knows how good he is at acquiring NHL talent, who knows how well he is at managing NHL egos, etc.... but he's been as good of an AGM as you could ever ask for, and he will be dearly missed by the Penguins.

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Let it be noted that most people didn't have him on the top of their lists at the start, and even so, all seem satisfied, optimistic, and supportive.

For when inevitably someone critiques a move later on and in comes the barrage of "ugh these fans hate on everything with their mass psychosis of agendas and hateful hate."
My top two picks, of the rumored options, were Futa and Fenton. Liked all the options with maybe a bit of reservation about Fitzgerald

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Jim Rutherford was just on WGR with a glowing endorsement of Botterill.

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Finally official. Happy with the hire. Hopefully this is the last GM search we'll have to suffer through in a long while.

pleasehireagoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoachpleasehire agoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoach pleasehireagoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoachpleasehire agoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoachpleasehireagoodcoach

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question - does that mean you have to give up a pick to the pens? just wondering

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question - does that mean you have to give up a pick to the pens? just wondering
nope. that was done away with

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His success is going to ride on his first coaching choice, whether it's fair or not. I hope he brings in something positive. It can't be worse than Bylsma, not even Nolan was that bad.

I would think Rochester will be happy with this signing. They will get overhauled and possibly an AGM to focus on them alone. If you believe in the "winning" attitude, this is just as important. Though simply removing the forced Bylsma's system from Rochester will go a long way towards them being more successful.

He has a very important expansion draft coming up with the best opportunity ever to have other team's forced to move budding defenseman, so the ability to overhaul our defense will never be better. I hope he has some realistic plans. And he doesn't see Ennis or Moulson as some sort of reclamation project.

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But he had a successful minor league team which was DEPRIVED of 1st round talent which does lead me to be more optimistic.
It's a different league. He managed to put up 37 goals for the Amerks one season and could never produce in the NHL. He was a good career minor leaguer. It's better to be successful in the minors than not, but it doesn't mean much on its own.

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Let it be noted that most people didn't have him on the top of their lists at the start, and even so, all seem satisfied, optimistic, and supportive.

For when inevitably someone critiques a move later on and in comes the barrage of "ugh these fans hate on everything with their mass psychosis of agendas and hateful hate."
Getting this take in early so you can throw a hissy fit later I see.

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He didn't say character 100 times so at least we know Pegula's not writing his statements off a template.

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