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03-24-2006, 11:37 PM
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Does anyone want a top 16?

Hey. Just wondering if any NHL fans like the merits of a top 16 with inter-conference matchups or if everyone likes the top 8 system the way it is? I must admit i have no problems with the way the playoff seedings are done at the moment but i thought it would be interesting just to see what a top 16 would look like, ranked by points.

#1 Ottawa vs #16 New Jersey
#2 Detroit vs #15 Los Angeles
#3 Carolina vs #14 Tampa Bay
#4 Dallas vs #13 Edmonton
#5 Buffalo vs #12 Anaheim
#6 Nashville vs #11 Vancouver
#7 NY Rangers vs #10 Colorado
#8 Philadelphia vs #9 Calgary

OK this was done at the start of the day, so I realise games aren't even and they might not finish where they are listed, they might even have jumped spots on the days results. It was just to get a rough idea as to what a top 16 might look like.

Notice Calgary the current number 3 seeds in the west would be away to Philadelphia. Ouch.

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03-24-2006, 11:51 PM
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I like it.It is the way it used to be.

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Traveling will be hell for some of those matchups, for example Buffalo vs Anaheim.

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Hey. Just wondering if any NHL fans like the merits of a top 16 with inter-conference matchups or if everyone likes the top 8 system the way it is? I must admit i have no problems with the way the playoff seedings are done at the moment but i thought it would be interesting just to see what a top 16 would look like, ranked by points.

#1 Ottawa vs #16 New Jersey
#2 Detroit vs #15 Los Angeles
#3 Carolina vs #14 Tampa Bay
#4 Dallas vs #13 Edmonton
#5 Buffalo vs #12 Anaheim
#6 Nashville vs #11 Vancouver
#7 NY Rangers vs #10 Colorado
#8 Philadelphia vs #9 Calgary

OK this was done at the start of the day, so I realise games aren't even and they might not finish where they are listed, they might even have jumped spots on the days results. It was just to get a rough idea as to what a top 16 might look like.

Notice Calgary the current number 3 seeds in the west would be away to Philadelphia. Ouch.

 
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03-25-2006, 04:20 AM
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I wouldn't mind it, but that is because I'm an Oiler fan and that would make it a lot easier for us to make the playoffs since the West is so much stronger than the East from 6th-10th. Yet, as it stands we'd still play Dallas, so we're screwed either way.

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Traveling will be hell for some of those matchups, for example Buffalo vs Anaheim.
Well the current system has seen Detroit play Anaheim, L.A. and San Jose in the first round so it wouldn`t be any worse than it is now. The league should have the teams crossover at some point before the final so if the two best teams happen to be in the same conference they can still meet in the final.

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No way the eastern teams would do that. The travel schedule is too much for what they are used to. Especially the Atlantic teams

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I think it's a decent idea.

I'm sure travel would become an issue, but it shouldn't. A couple extra hours on a plane never killed an NHLer that I'm aware of.

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Traveling will be hell for some of those matchups, for example Buffalo vs Anaheim.
Welcome to what Detroit faces in the playoffs every single year.

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How is it fair to compare the point totals of the eastern and western teams when they barely ever play each other?

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NO, TERRIBLE!!!!! keep the two conferences separate, especially now with the reduced inter-conference regular season play, the teams barely see each other and is not fair to make them compete against teams they don't play for playoff spots...keep the cup finals as best in west vs. best in east

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Why??

conference matchups are made to promote rivalries...who would want to change that?

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I wish
a) the scheduling would change so you would see every team every year and
b) yes, I would love to go back to having the top 16 teams regardless of conference get in.

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Welcome to what every Western team faces in the playoffs every single year.
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a) the scheduling would change so you would see every team every year and
b) yes, I would love to go back to having the top 16 teams regardless of conference get in.
agree .getting tired of seeing the same playoff matches yr in and out.

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NO, TERRIBLE!!!!! keep the two conferences separate, especially now with the reduced inter-conference regular season play, the teams barely see each other and is not fair to make them compete against teams they don't play for playoff spots...keep the cup finals as best in west vs. best in east


no way. our playoff format SUCKS right now. it's not suppose the east against the west. last i remember it was one league called the nhl.what is not fair in competing
against teams they don't play for playoff spots and also teams as you say barely see each other which would make it even more interresting when they meet.

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Well, what's the point in having "conferences" then?

It also means a much bigger impact of being in a very strong or very weak division

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I cannot stand the way it is now. I liked it when it was 4 divisions and the first two rounds were divisional. That created some great rivalries, and the playoffs, to me at least, were far more intense than they are now.

Plus, I don't like how they award a team a top 3 seed just for winning their division. Every year, some team is seeded third ahead of two teams who had more points. Why should the two teams be punished with a head-to-head round one matchup when they had a better record than the thrird seeded team?
I agree. What if one year there was a very weak division and all the teams had about 50 points total, but all the other divisions were very strong. It would suck for a team with 90 points not to make it while a team with 50 does.

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#4 Dallas vs #13 Edmonton
bwah!!

And I love the idea.

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Well, what's the point in having "conferences" then?

It also means a much bigger impact of being in a very strong or very weak division
the conferences were put in place for teams to save money on all the travelling.[the real reason] during the playoffs it should not be that costly for them.

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the conferences were put in place for teams to save money on all the travelling.[the real reason] during the playoffs it should not be that costly for them.
Maybe, but that doesn't erase the problem of the bigger impact of strong divisions.

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Actually, a correction of sorts - I still like the idea, but I'd prefer:

Ottawa (1A) vs. Edmonton (8B)
Carolina (2A) vs. Vancouver (7B)
New York (3A) vs. Colorado (6B)
Buffalo (4A) vs. Anaheim (5B)
Philadelphia (5A) vs. Nashville (4B)
Tampa Bay (6A) vs. Calgary (3B)
New Jersey (7A) vs. Dallas (2B)
Atlanta (8A) vs. Detroit (1B)

for equal representation of each conference.

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Heh. Fans from the East don't like it, fans from the West do. Which makes sense.

The system as it's set up this year has two advantages for the East. One, the East falls off after the top five teams, so there would be much less representation for the conference (pending runs/slides at the end of the year). Two, the East has very easy travel compared to the West (harder in the playoffs, but nothing like Dallas to Edmonton).

I like the idea, but I don't think it will ever happen. My guess is longer travel means more expense associated with travel, and the upper managment in the league is all about minimizing costs.

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Actually, a correction of sorts - I still like the idea, but I'd prefer:

Ottawa (1A) vs. Edmonton (8B)
Carolina (2A) vs. Vancouver (7B)
New York (3A) vs. Colorado (6B)
Buffalo (4A) vs. Anaheim (5B)
Philadelphia (5A) vs. Nashville (4B)
Tampa Bay (6A) vs. Calgary (3B)
New Jersey (7A) vs. Dallas (2B)
Atlanta (8A) vs. Detroit (1B)

for equal representation of each conference.
That's much better.. BUT

THIS

Tampa Bay (6A) vs. Calgary (3B)

Is overkill!

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