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05-15-2017, 08:10 PM
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Kane is a very good player, better than Johansson but he's a head case. Not sure we want that in our locker room.

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Has a north-south game that we need right now. 90 is more redundant on this team than E Kane.
Kuznetsov is not a north south player. Johansson has been about the only Caps forward that can keep up with him. A straight north south player on both wings wouldn't work.

I imagine a north south coach wouldn't want Kuznetsov or at minimum wouldn't let him play his game

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Kuznetsov is not a north south player. Johansson has been about the only Caps forward that can keep up with him. A straight north south player on both wings wouldn't work.

I imagine a north south coach wouldn't want Kuznetsov or at minimum wouldn't let him play his game
Kuzy played north south hockey against the Penguins and it worked very well. He won his match up against Malkin and Kessel at ES after game 2 onwards.

Burakovsky and Vrana have the wheels to follow 92 around, so does Johansson.

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05-15-2017, 08:27 PM
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Get Radulov for either Ovechkin or Kuznetsov's off wing. He'd be absolutely deadly with either with his playstyle.

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I think he wants to see how the playoffs unfolds. i hope i'm wrong though

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Kuznetsov is not a north south player. Johansson has been about the only Caps forward that can keep up with him. A straight north south player on both wings wouldn't work.

I imagine a north south coach wouldn't want Kuznetsov or at minimum wouldn't let him play his game
Wrong. Chimera & Ward worked fine with Kuz. You can win possession in different ways.

Just need actually good North-South players, and not overrated pancakes like Brouwer & Laich used to be.

Even for the offensive zone weave, probably the more important elements to complement Kuz are not specific wingers, but smart/mobile D.

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05-15-2017, 11:28 PM
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They should go for the 2002 Red Wings approach and stuff their team with as many HOFers/legends on a last hail mary chance to win the cup as they can. The collective experience and urgency will be overpowering and many of these guys could come cheap


Ovechkin Backstrom Jagr
Kovalchuk Kuznetsov Radulov
Marleau Thornton Iginla
Burakovsky Moore Williams

Orlov Niskanen
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05-16-2017, 01:18 AM
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They should go for the 2002 Red Wings approach and stuff their team with as many HOFers/legends on a last hail mary chance to win the cup as they can. The collective experience and urgency will be overpowering and many of these guys could come cheap


Ovechkin Backstrom Jagr
Kovalchuk Kuznetsov Radulov
Marleau Thornton Iginla
Burakovsky Moore Williams

Orlov Niskanen
Campbell Carlson
Markov Schmidt
I'd add Fedorov, Brodeur, and Bobby Orr.

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We're playing without salary cap again?

But in a deep dream, maybe that 3rd line would accept to play for a year on a 1 million contract to win their first cup

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With this organization, when its quiet and not much has been said, usually changes are afoot

When Oates and GMGM were let go, we didn't hear almost anything until they were fired

Usually we hear something from the GM by now

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pretty sure well see kovy in red before e.kane

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05-16-2017, 07:02 AM
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It's hilarious that GMBM is going to take blame here. Just go back and look at the 2013-14 roster. You will laugh at how horrible that team looks compared to now.

His only real mistake was giving Orpik that money and term but even then Orpik was an upgrade over Cam Schilling, Jack Hillen, Alex Urbom, Julien Brouillette, Steve Oleksy, Tyson Strachan, etc etc

GMBM identified many of the weaknesses in the team and addressed them. He went out and got Eller to help down the middle. He finally went all in at the TDL and for Shattenkirk to help the D. If he hadn't done that, a lot of you would be *****ing that he stood pat.

What else did you expect him to do? Go out and create 4 scoring lines like it's ****ing NHL 17 with the salary cap off? The team he assembled on paper was a cup winning team. Unfortunately injuries happened to some key players, Holtby played like **** up until the final few games, and the players are mentally weak when it comes to facing Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

Clearly there are changes that need to be made but let's not get irrational
Re Holtby not winning us the games. Any correlation to Alzner being injured in the 1st game vs Toronto Series and then returning in the game 3 win vs Penguins?

Same as last year. Alzner goes out and Washington loses.

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Re Holtby not winning us the games. Any correlation to Alzner being injured in the 1st game vs Toronto Series and then returning in the game 3 win vs Penguins?

Same as last year. Alzner goes out and Washington loses.
Alzner was pretty bad all season long.

Only Hotlby is to blame for his play.

Remember before Korn came Holtby's biggest problem was he always let in the soft goal. He would let in a weak shot and then become flustered for a period of time. That is why Oates had such a short leash with him it drove him crazy to see a talented goalie let in so many soft goals but make ridiculous saves otherwise. This playoff we saw a lot of that again. No blatant soft goals but I would say 70% of the goals he did let hit him in some way. I think in his mind he reverted back to that a little bit, savable shot goes in and got frustrated because of it.

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05-16-2017, 08:22 AM
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Alzner was pretty bad all season long.

Only Hotlby is to blame for his play.

Remember before Korn came Holtby's biggest problem was he always let in the soft goal. He would let in a weak shot and then become flustered for a period of time. That is why Oates had such a short leash with him it drove him crazy to see a talented goalie let in so many soft goals but make ridiculous saves otherwise. This playoff we saw a lot of that again. No blatant soft goals but I would say 70% of the goals he did let hit him in some way. I think in his mind he reverted back to that a little bit, savable shot goes in and got frustrated because of it.
According to Corsi. Yup. We all saw how that turned out.

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05-16-2017, 01:31 PM
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We're playing without salary cap again?

But in a deep dream, maybe that 3rd line would accept to play for a year on a 1 million contract to win their first cup
Iggy is a 1m a year player as is

Marleau and Thornton take discount to play together

Campbell just had a 2 mil year

Markov Radulov and Kovalchuk take discounts to play with Ovechkin, Kuznetsov takes another discount to play with all of them

Jagr might not take discount but we need him to complete the legends group

Maybe Boston would give us Chara too

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05-16-2017, 01:38 PM
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Iggy is a 1m a year player as is

Marleau and Thornton take discount to play together

Campbell just had a 2 mil year

Markov Radulov and Kovalchuk take discounts to play with Ovechkin, Kuznetsov takes another discount to play with all of them

Jagr might not take discount but we need him to complete the legends group

Maybe Boston would give us Chara too
You try telling another human being to leave 1, 2, 3 million on the table
Good luck

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05-16-2017, 01:40 PM
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You try telling another human being to leave 1, 2, 3 million on the table
Good luck
It happens lots of times every year. You think Campbell couldn't get more than 2 million? You think JW didn't have better offers before coming here?

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05-16-2017, 01:45 PM
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Iggy is a 1m a year player as is

Marleau and Thornton take discount to play together

Campbell just had a 2 mil year

Markov Radulov and Kovalchuk take discounts to play with Ovechkin, Kuznetsov takes another discount to play with all of them

Jagr might not take discount but we need him to complete the legends group

Maybe Boston would give us Chara too
This would be the oldest/slowest team in existence.

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05-16-2017, 02:09 PM
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Kill me if 8-19-77 is a regular line next season. Probably the slowest first line in the entire NHL.

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Jarome Iginla is done. 50% of his goals last season came on the powerplay, a position which he would not warrant in Washington. His ES goal and point production was worse than Daniel Winnik's. He was among one of the worst players on a horrid Colorado team.

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Kill me if 8-19-77 is a regular line next season. Probably the slowest first line in the entire NHL.
Gotta get Ovi with Kuzy and Burky for speed

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Jarome Iginla is done. 50% of his goals last season came on the powerplay, a position which he would not warrant in Washington. His ES goal and point production was worse than Daniel Winnik's. He was among one of the worst players on a horrid Colorado team.
Don't a lot of goalscorers on PP1 get about 50% of their goals on the PP? Going by memory. I might be wrong.

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Kill me if 8-19-77 is a regular line next season. Probably the slowest first line in the entire NHL.
Don't worry, you'd only have to endure it until there's 3 games left in playoffs -- after that, good lines

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Don't a lot of goalscorers on PP1 get about 50% of their goals on the PP? Going by memory. I might be wrong.
Outside of Ovechkin? Not really. Among the top 60 goal scorers this year, only Ovechkin and Simmonds had 50% or more of their goals with the man advantage. Most are in the 20%-35% ballpark.

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