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05-14-2017, 09:21 PM
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Every owner does because you get more money.
Look at the Blackhawks previous dead owner and the Cincinnati Bengals for bean counters who care about the bottom line over keeping quality players.

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Rinne needs to be better for the Preds to win this series. You just can't let goals like that 4th goal in.

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Look at the Blackhawks previous dead owner and the Cincinnati Bengals for bean counters who care abouto the bottom line over keeping quality players.
The previous Hawks owner had an old fashioned mentality. He felt that if he made games hard to watch on TV people would have no choice but to come to the games.

Doesn't mean he didn't care about success he just shot himself in the foot and made less revenue to have a stable hockey club.

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Johansen losing every important faceoff. So for the guy who says faceoffs don't matter....
Count how many faceoffs there are during the game. Usually between 50-60.. it averages out that most of the time faceoffs don't really change much in possession times or stats

If advanced stats wants to start counting faceoff percentage on zone draws with the goalie pulled, sure, then we can talk about the faceoff percentage stat as being a useful determinant.

If Johansen loses those three faceoffs but wins the other 16 he takes.. his faceoff stat would be great and you wouldn't know that he lost the most crucial ones.

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Nothing is safe against the Ducks..

Edmonton led the series 2-0 with two wins on the road and Ducks came back to win the series.
Edmonton led by 3 goals with 3min30 left and the Ducks came back.
Now another comeback of a 2 goals deficit.

Getzlaf is a monster.
I suppose they are used to Gibson being crap at times so the players don't get deflated and quit. They know the have to keep playing to get that cushion.

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Rinne needs to be better for the Preds to win this series. You just can't let goals like that 4th goal in.
You can say the same thing about the ducks too.

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Anaheim has a scary team. They're built for the playoffs. I think this goes to 7. I just hope Preds are able to fight through this and win.

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Count how many faceoffs there are during the game. Usually between 50-60.. it averages out that most of the time faceoffs don't really change much in possession times or stats

If advanced stats wants to start counting faceoff percentage on zone draws with the goalie pulled, sure, then we can talk about the faceoff percentage stat as being a useful determinant.

If Johansen loses those three faceoffs but wins the other 16 he takes.. his faceoff stat would be great and you wouldn't know that he lost the most crucial ones.
If you're winning 16 of 19 faceoffs you'll probably win important ones too.

Faceoffs are overrated but still useful anyway.

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First time in these playoffs that Nashville has to deal with adversity. Curious to see how they respond, Anaheim is the real deal.

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Anaheim has a scary team. They're built for the playoffs. I think this goes to 7. I just hope Preds are able to fight through this and win.
Don't know if the Preds could take the physical pounding of a 7 game series. Ducks are dirty and if they're going to get away with it, it's going to hurt Nash.

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You can say the same thing about the ducks too.
Rinne had a 0.846 SV% tonight. Gibson was 0.909 SV%. You're not likely to win many games sporting a 0.846 SV% in a game.

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Count how many faceoffs there are during the game. Usually between 50-60.. it averages out that most of the time faceoffs don't really change much in possession times or stats

If advanced stats wants to start counting faceoff percentage on zone draws with the goalie pulled, sure, then we can talk about the faceoff percentage stat as being a useful determinant.

If Johansen loses those three faceoffs but wins the other 16 he takes.. his faceoff stat would be great and you wouldn't know that he lost the most crucial ones.
I just saw Johansen lose about 4 faceoffs at the end of the game and Nashville could not secure possession. Are they the be-all end-all? No. But they are important.

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Rinne had a 0.846 SV% tonight. Gibson was 0.909 SV%. You're not likely to win many games sporting a 0.846 SV% in a game.
Nor a 0.909, for that matter.

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Rinne had a 0.846 SV% tonight. Gibson was 0.909 SV%. You're not likely to win many games sporting a 0.846 SV% in a game.
The last goal was the crippler. Weak.

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The last goal was the crippler. Weak.
First goal was not much better.

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Rinne had a 0.846 SV% tonight. Gibson was 0.909 SV%. You're not likely to win many games sporting a 0.846 SV% in a game.
My point is that both goalies have been less than stellar and both goalies are likely thinking that they need to be better.

That goes for the series to date, and not just tonight. Neither is exuding confidence.

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The last goal was the crippler. Weak.
Yup that was a very weak goal. That needed to be stopped. The Preds got the split so it isn't all bad for them I guess. Also Josi and Ellis need to be much better defensively for the Preds.

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Well Nashville with the spilt on the road can't be mad about that. Sucks about losing that way but what can yeah do.

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Don't know if the Preds could take the physical pounding of a 7 game series. Ducks are dirty and if they're going to get away with it, it's going to hurt Nash.
Preds are still undefeated at home, so hopefully they can pick up the next two games, but seeing how Anaheim is playing, I doubt it.

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My point is that both goalies have been less than stellar and both goalies are likely thinking that they need to be better.

That goes for the series to date, and not just tonight. Neither is exuding confidence.
Rinne has been unbelievable through the first two rounds. This has been by far his best playoffs; not a coincidence Nashville's gone further than ever. If he comes back down to Earth the Preds don't have much of a chance.

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Rinne will need to be a lot better for the Preds to have a chance in this series. Also, not overly impressed with Josi and Ellis' defensive play in this game.

Neither goalie was all that good really. Just goes to show you that goaltending is over rated. You just need a goalie who isn't going to lose a series. It helps when you have an offense that can over come bad goals, unlucky breaks/weird bounces or just amazing plays by your opposition.

Habs lost because they couldn't over come any of those things. One bad bounce off Markov's skate, or a weird play off the boards and we couldn't answer back. We need more offense!

I think Ducks win this series and probably the Cup. They are the deepest team in the playoffs right now. Considering the young players they have in their line-up and that Getzlaf is still going strong, they could be very good for a few years here.

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Rinne has been unbelievable through the first two rounds. This has been by far his best playoffs; not a coincidence Nashville's gone further than ever. If he comes back down to Earth the Preds don't have much of a chance.
Well it's not like the Preds are relying on him to win games. He's been great but if he comes back to earth which is still in the 0.920 and Nashville scoring almost 3 goals per game, it's still gonna be a tight series.

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Rinne will need to be a lot better for the Preds to have a chance in this series. Also, not overly impressed with Josi and Ellis' defensive play in this game.

Neither goalie was all that good really. Just goes to show you that goaltending is over rated. You just need a goalie who isn't going to lose a series. It helps when you have an offense that can over come bad goals, unlucky breaks/weird bounces or just amazing plays by your opposition.

Habs lost because they couldn't over come any of those things. One bad bounce off Markov's skate, or a weird play off the boards and we couldn't answer back. We need more offense!

I think Ducks win this series and probably the Cup. They are the deepest team in the playoffs right now. Considering the young players they have in their line-up and that Getzlaf is still going strong, they could be very good for a few years here.
I think Preds have a chance, since Gibson hasn't been particularly good either. Rinne just needs to play a bit better than today (doesn't need to be .950) and I think the preds can take the series.

Agree that even if we have Carey, we still need scoring. Price literally has to be godly for us to win the cup, which is almost impossible. If we can't score more than 1/2 goals a game, we're not going anywhere.

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Rinne will need to be a lot better for the Preds to have a chance in this series. Also, not overly impressed with Josi and Ellis' defensive play in this game.

Neither goalie was all that good really. Just goes to show you that goaltending is over rated. You just need a goalie who isn't going to lose a series. It helps when you have an offense that can over come bad goals, unlucky breaks/weird bounces or just amazing plays by your opposition.

Habs lost because they couldn't over come any of those things. One bad bounce off Markov's skate, or a weird play off the boards and we couldn't answer back. We need more offense!

I think Ducks win this series and probably the Cup. They are the deepest team in the playoffs right now. Considering the young players they have in their line-up and that Getzlaf is still going strong, they could be very good for a few years here.
The games in Nashville should be interesting though, tonight Carlyle managed to put Getzlaf against that 3rd D pairing many times, and Getzlaf took advantage of it.

And let's be honest, Rinne is not going to allow goals like the 1st and 4th ones every night. Should be a long series!

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