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05-24-2017, 08:56 PM
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Stanley with a bit of bonehead play there lucky there isn't more time. Maybe he planned it but I doubt it.
Looked planned to me. Force a faceoff with little time left and guarantee the win rather than a clear break behind you for a quick goal. Actually pretty heads up.

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05-24-2017, 08:59 PM
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So, what you're saying is that Stanley could be a higher scoring bigger better Chiarot!
If he is good defensively & hopefully great on the PK with that reach, I would be happy with that. The Jets took a bit of a risk on their 2nd First rounder, I'm good with that and have faith, give it some time!
Where did I say this?

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05-24-2017, 09:01 PM
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Looked planned to me. Force a faceoff with little time left and guarantee the win rather than a clear break behind you for a quick goal. Actually pretty heads up.
Could have been or he just saw an opening to put a big hit on someone and knew it wouldn't matter with a 11 seconds left haha

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05-24-2017, 09:01 PM
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I just watched the last two periods. Stanley played a pretty simple game. I doubt he broke a sweat during the game. As good as Sergachev is - his pairing did get hemmed in a couple of times. Once for a long stretch with multiple icings where he failed to clear a few times.

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I just watched the last two periods. Stanley played a pretty simple game. I doubt he broke a sweat during the game. As good as Sergachev is - his pairing did get hemmed in a couple of times. Once for a long stretch with multiple icings where he failed to clear a few times.
Yeah Windsor was definitely hanging on for deer life for a little bit, especially at the end. Once that Debrincat, Strome line gets set up it's tough to get the puck away. Keep in mind Sergachev probably plays close to 50% of the game, every night.

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05-24-2017, 09:07 PM
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Could have been or he just saw an opening to put a big hit on someone and knew it wouldn't matter with a 11 seconds left haha
Except it wasn't really a big hit but rather a pure interference to keep the player from a clean break. Nothing I saw from Stanley tonight suggested he looked for big hits. He plays a very conservative game and pretty much ground Strome down.

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Simple game by Stanley. Played conservatively, which is all he can do at this stage in this situation. Kept with the Erie forwards well enough. Still has a long way to go.

Sergachev is marvelous.

Day's skating is sublime, but he really doesn't seem to know where to be or what to do with the puck if he isn't carrying it.

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Except it wasn't really a big hit but rather a pure interference to keep the player from a clean break. Nothing I saw from Stanley tonight suggested he looked for big hits. He plays a very conservative game and pretty much ground Strome down.
There was one time in the 1st he went for a big hit on DeBrincat in the corner and DeBrincat just does a complete 180 and Stanley flies by him as DeBrincat gets a chance but shoots it right into DiPietro's crest.

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Simple game by Stanley. Played conservatively, which is all he can do at this stage in this situation. Kept with the Erie forwards well enough. Still has a long way to go.

Sergachev is marvelous.

Day's skating is sublime, but he really doesn't seem to know where to be or what to do with the puck if he isn't carrying it.
With his skills he really should be a better hockey player. Is he any relation to Bogosian

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Simple game by Stanley. Played conservatively, which is all he can do at this stage in this situation. Kept with the Erie forwards well enough. Still has a long way to go.

Sergachev is marvelous.

Day's skating is sublime, but he really doesn't seem to know where to be or what to do with the puck if he isn't carrying it.
Yeah Day has a long road ahead as well. Getting out of Miss. was probably a really good first step in his development as Windsor is much more comfortable activating their dmen. Day is free to roam which makes him a major threat offensively. He's a lot like Makar in that way. Hell of a player with the puck but when it's not on his stick in the dzone he just puck watches. Day made a hell of a defensive play in the 3rd though to keep Erie from getting a high danger chance.

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There was one time in the 1st he went for a big hit on DeBrincat in the corner and DeBrincat just does a complete 180 and Stanley flies by him as DeBrincat gets a chance but shoots it right into DiPietro's crest.
But that's not really a big hit. That's a 20 X's a game type of hit. I see big hits more of the big risk middle of the ice line up.

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But that's not really a big hit. That's a 20 X's a game type of hit. I see big hits more of the big risk middle of the ice line up.
Wasn't a lot chances for one though. He typically hangs a bit further back. But sure it was a smart play he definitely meant to do it. We'll give him a freebie to make us feel better.

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Wasn't a lot chances for one though. He typically hangs a bit further back. But sure it was a smart play he definitely meant to do it. We'll give him a freebie to make us feel better.
I cheer on all our prospects equally. I'm a homer and like them all. Once they are in the organization I see them as one of our own. I will always go out of my way to see the positives rather then search for things to criticize.

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Safe game though. He'll be a typical glass and out kind of guy I think from all the viewings I've gathered. Saw a bit of an offensive flair from him on the assist in the 1st. Next year will be a huge year in his development as Sergachev, Chatfield and Day are all likely to be gone so he will be top dog. That is a lot of situations open for him. If he can't be a solid offensive QB for them they will likely not be nearly as good next year.


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I cheer on all our prospects equally. I'm a homer and like them all. Once they are in the organization I see them as one of our own. I will always go out of my way to see the positives rather then search for things to criticize.
I'm always looking for a balance. I can't just sit here and be Mr. Bright Eyes for every guy in the organization. Every guy has to separate himself from every other guy in the organization for me. One of the many reasons I was so hard on Armia when he first got here. Or Petan. They have to show me that they are better options than their counterparts both on the team and in the org. My choices obviously may not get more playing time or they may get a lot because I don't make the decisions but I will still be just as harsh on them because I want us to ice the best team possible. Right now Stanley doesn't have much competition in this org. Chiarot, Stu, Melchiori, Stait, Kichton are not much competition at all. Niku is probably his biggest competition. Morrissey has him lapped about 20 times over. I'm hoping the organization adds some more guys to really push Stanley.

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Safe game though. He'll be a typical glass and out kind of guy I think from all the viewings I've gathered. Saw a bit of an offensive flair from him on the assist in the 1st. Next year will be a huge year in his development as Sergachev, Chatfield and Day are all likely to be gone so he will be top dog. That is a lot of situations open for him. If he can't be a solid offensive QB for them they will likely not be nearly as good next year.
Not really sure the typical glass and out comment is fair. While I'm only starting the 2nd he's only went off the boards and out once so far and the once was calculated as it went right to his teammate.

Other than that he's looked for the breakout pass and puck has exited the zone with control about 4 of 5 times. The other time it was the winger he passed it to who chipped it out and lost control.

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Not really sure the typical glass and out comment is fair. While I'm only starting the 2nd he's only went off the boards and out once so far and the once was calculated as it went right to his teammate.

Other than that he's looked for the breakout pass and puck has exited the zone with control about 4 of 5 times. The other time it was the winger he passed it to who chipped it out and lost control.
Game 1 and 2 he glassed and out a lot. I noticed it a lot this game. I suppose it may come down to how critical we all are. Lots of people think Stuart is a great defencemen too. Glassing and out isn't a bad thing as long as you do it at the right time.

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Game 1 and 2 he glassed and out a lot. I noticed it a lot this game. I suppose it may come down to how critical we all are. Lots of people think Stuart is a great defencemen too. Glassing and out isn't a bad thing as long as you do it at the right time.
No disagreements on the first two games (he clearly was rusty and not confident with the puck in those ones) Well I'll continue to track as I go through this one. It's pen and paper time.

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That is the most terrifying post i've ever seen.

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That is the most terrifying post i've ever seen.

Bogo is ok, though.
Terrifying, how? I see Bogosian and Valibik (Valibik was awful, no question), and a bunch of 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounders. Odds are, we're not going to pick top-4s in the later rounds - they commonly go in the 1st and 2nd.

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That is the most terrifying post i've ever seen.

Bogo is ok, though.

While I definitely think that there is much room for improvement with how the Jets rate defensman let's put some perspective on this list.

Let's be honest Bogo would have destroyed all the scoring and height based analytic metrics that are becoming more previliant these days. Bogo was an excellent pick utilizing score based models (He's an excellent example of how these models can be fallible) and really contradicts the points that Garret is trying to make here.

Outside of that he's 1 for 5 (20%) with regards to getting an NHL defender third round and beyond which is probably about what the probability is of getting an NHL player in those draft spots.

The big one is the miss on Valibik.

Jury is still out on Stanley.

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While I definitely think that there is much room for improvement with how the Jets rate defensman let's put some perspective on this list.

Let's be honest Bogo would have destroyed all the scoring and height based analytic metrics that are becoming more previliant these days. Bogo was an excellent pick utilizing score based models (He's an excellent example of how these models can be fallible) and really contradicts the points that Garret is trying to make here.

Outside of that he's 1 for 5 (20%) with regards to getting an NHL defender third round and beyond which is probably about what the probability is of getting an NHL player in those draft spots.

The big one is the miss on Valibik.

Jury is still out on Stanley.
Wonder who was behind the Coburn pick.

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Wonder who was behind the Coburn pick.
Was he even part of the staff on 2003?

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Was he even part of the staff on 2003?
No some one else was behind that one. Likely whomever the WHL scouts were.

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As an aside, how friggin good is Sergachev already? Man I wish we had this kid.


As another aside how friggin good is this entire Spitfires team? They activate Serge, Day and Chatfield at will. Reminds me of watching Tri-City in the Dub. Defencemen are always in the play.
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There's just nothing he can't do. Chatfield is looking really good tonight to. Between Sergachev, Chatifeld and Day it's like having 3 incredible skaters who can play both ends of the ice. I think Windsor has this Mem Cup in the bag.
He looked incredible tonight. He is so much better in his own end now than when I saw him in his draft year. Very complete talent that has all the tools. I could watch that kid play hockey all night.

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