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05-28-2017, 08:01 AM
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2017-18 Lineup

Marchand/Bergeron/J.Williams
DeBrusk/Krejci/Pastrnak
Kuraly/Backes/Vatrano
Beleskey/Nash/Acciari
Blidh

Alzner/McAvoy
Chara/Carlo
Krug/Kevan
Colin

They say the salary cap will be around 76M.

McQuaid gets claimed by Vegas.
Hayes gets put on waivers and plays the entire season in Providence.
Backes moved to 3C.
Pastrnak gets 6YRx6.5M.
Alzner gets 5YRx5M.
Williams gets 2YRx3M.
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05-28-2017, 08:12 AM
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Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Bjork-Krejci-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Spooner-Vatrano
Kuraly-Nash-Accairi
Beleskey

xxxxx-McAvoy
Chara-Carlo
Krug-Kevan
McQuaid

Rask-Dobby

Chiller gets claimed

Bruins get a top LHD

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05-28-2017, 08:31 AM
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think I`ll wait to make predictions until after expansion and entry draft held

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think I`ll wait to make predictions until after expansion and entry draft hlsneld
Good decision. A lot will happen between June 15 and July 2. There will be changes to this roster, no doubt. I plan to revisit this thread when things simmer down.

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Ryan Reaves would make that 4th line much better. I really hope the Bruins acquire a guy like that. The Matt Martin effect in Toronto.

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05-28-2017, 10:22 AM
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Yeah, I too think it is too early to predict the line up; too many pieces still in play ... expansion draft, entry draft, free agency, development camp, training camp, trades. Food for thought, how many had Carlo penciled into the line up at this time last year?

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Marchand-Bergeron-Backes
Heinen-Krejci-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Spooner-Vatrano
Acciari-Kuraly-Nash

Chara-Carlo
Krug-Mcavoy
Zboril-Miller*

*Not sure which Miller

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Ryan Reaves would make that 4th line much better. I really hope the Bruins acquire a guy like that. The Matt Martin effect in Toronto.
read this too often, still haven`t heard why? I see a guy who`s tough, likes to drop the mitts which I enjoy, I also see a guy who when the playoffs begin just isn`t someone who`ll chip in one bit. I`ve watched alot of Blues games in recent years as I enjoy watching them play, barely noticed the guy

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Good decision. A lot will happen between June 15 and July 2. There will be changes to this roster, no doubt. I plan to revisit this thread when things simmer down.
off season will be more entertaining than that borefest that they cover from 8am called the Trade Deadline

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Williams with Bergeron and Marchand would be such an amazing fit. Just don't see it happening though, and certainly not for only $3 million a year. He's always had a low cap hit in his career, but at 35 years old, this is his last chance at a decent contract. Don't see him taking a pay-cut unless it's for a contender.

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Kuraly on the third line is hurting my eyes...

Marchand,Bergeron,Backes
Landeskog,Krejci,Pastrnak
Debrusk,Spooner,Vatrano
Kuraly,Nash,Deslaurier/Aciarri/Blidh

Alzner,McAvoy
Chara,Krug
Kevan,dehaan

I like the idea of Alzner, but like said above let's wait for the expansion draft.

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05-28-2017, 11:33 PM
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Kuraly on the third line is hurting my eyes...

Marchand,Bergeron,Backes
Landeskog,Krejci,Pastrnak
Debrusk,Spooner,Vatrano
Kuraly,Nash,Deslaurier/Aciarri/Blidh

Alzner,McAvoy
Chara,Krug
Kevan,dehaan

I like the idea of Alzner, but like said above let's wait for the expansion draft.
My big rules for next year are no 4th line players above the 4th line. Now maybe Kuraly will develop and prove over time he can become a 3rd line player, but he shouldn't start there

And you sure as anything can't have a team that has Riley Nash or Tim Schaller skating anywhere above the 4th line. Sure maybe on rare occasions due to injury, but having a plan which has one there is a losing proposition

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My big rules for next year are no 4th line players above the 4th line. Now maybe Kuraly will develop and prove over time he can become a 3rd line player, but he shouldn't start there

And you sure as anything can't have a team that has Riley Nash or Tim Schaller skating anywhere above the 4th line. Sure maybe on rare occasions due to injury, but having a plan which has one there is a losing proposition
Have to agree. I break the players down into groups kind of.

Top line, nobody capable.

Middle six. Heinen, Debrusk, Bjork, Cehlarik, senyshyn

Bottom line. Kuraly, Accairi, Blidh..

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Pretty easy call

1st Line elite

2/3 of Canada WC gold medal winning team and the run away leading scorer in his draft class

With all due respect to the poster Duffy who said Nashville had a better first line I will give you a mulligan

4th line

Kuraly & Accairi and possibly Moore back with Nash

Toss in Anton Blidh

Very good as a group and I would welcome DoMo back with open arms

This line was 50% of the leagues # 1 PK unit clearly lost on many Bruins followers

Lines 2 & 3

A) Krejci & Backes will be here

B) JFK will be the third line center by February at the latest

C) I believe Spooner will be traded

D) Hayes played much better for Cassidy but still a very long shot to be on the team

That leaves Vatrano DeBrusk Heinen Cehlarik will fighting for 2-3 wing spots

Bjork not if but when will be here and would join that group now as opposed to next March

Schaller was a good dependable player and warrented coming back

Stafford likely not coming back

Bottom line is

1. Is DoMo returning

2, three of these 5 Vatrano Heinen DeBrusk Cehlarik and Bjork will make team

3. JFK will be here sooner rather than later and hopefully DoMo sticks around 1 more year while he gets acclimated at Providence or Boston

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05-29-2017, 09:13 AM
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Pretty easy call

1st Line elite

2/3 of Canada WC gold medal winning team and the run away leading scorer in his draft class

With all due respect to the poster Duffy who said Nashville had a better first line I will give you a mulligan

4th line

Kuraly & Accairi and possibly Moore back with Nash

Toss in Anton Blidh

Very good as a group and I would welcome DoMo back with open arms

This line was 50% of the leagues # 1 PK unit clearly lost on many Bruins followers

Lines 2 & 3

A) Krejci & Backes will be here

B) JFK will be the third line center by February at the latest

C) I believe Spooner will be traded

D) Hayes played much better for Cassidy but still a very long shot to be on the team

That leaves Vatrano DeBrusk Heinen Cehlarik will fighting for 2-3 wing spots

Bjork not if but when will be here and would join that group now as opposed to next March

Schaller was a good dependable player and warrented coming back

Stafford likely not coming back

Bottom line is

1. Is DoMo returning

2, three of these 5 Vatrano Heinen DeBrusk Cehlarik and Bjork will make team

3. JFK will be here sooner rather than later and hopefully DoMo sticks around 1 more year while he gets acclimated at Providence or Boston


Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with your conclusions and also endorse Moore as a veteran worth another contract.

What do you think will happen with Beleskey?

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05-29-2017, 09:31 AM
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Debrusk-DK-x
Heinen-Backes-Vatrano
Schaller-Boyle-Accari/Blidh

x-can be a 20 goal fa at low cost/term a guy like williams who can slide down if needed for vatrano/heinen/bjork/etc. If Jfk seems likely to earn a 3c role than backes can stay as the vet winger.

I can see most holes being filled by rookies especially with the show Debrusk and heinen are putting on in the playoffs.

Dont spend much unless it is a winning upgrade, a reverse sequin.

Chara-Macavoy
Krug-Carlo
Killer-Chiller

Rask
McIntyre/FA

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Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with your conclusions and also endorse Moore as a veteran worth another contract.

What do you think will happen with Beleskey?
I forgot about him. Probably what he needs to do with his season.

If I was an assistant GM and Sweeney asked my take on Beleskey

1. I would not buy him out
2. If someone would take his contract I would do it
3. I expect him to rebound as the 2014-15 Ducks 2015-16 Bruins
4. The third line is where I would play him

Warning sign - how will he get along with Cassidy?

There are a lot of left shot wingers coming along so this is a top 5 on my list to watch at camp

The battle for the second and third line LW spots

I'm assuming Boston exposes him

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read this too often, still haven`t heard why? I see a guy who`s tough, likes to drop the mitts which I enjoy, I also see a guy who when the playoffs begin just isn`t someone who`ll chip in one bit. I`ve watched alot of Blues games in recent years as I enjoy watching them play, barely noticed the guy

I notice him almost every shift. He's a modern day Shawn Thornton. You must have kept missing the reason why I keep posting this, I've stated multiple times. If you look at the teams that were in the playoffs, almost all of them have a guy like this.

The effect Matt Martin has had on the youth in Toronto has been enormous. Knowing you have a guy like that having your back as a young kid, goes a long way on and off the ice. He's a team builder. Reaves is of the same ilk.


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I forgot about him. Probably what he needs to do with his season.

If I was an assistant GM and Sweeney asked my take on Beleskey

1. I would not buy him out
2. If someone would take his contract I would do it
3. I expect him to rebound as the 2014-15 Ducks 2015-16 Bruins
4. The third line is where I would play him

Warning sign - how will he get along with Cassidy?

There are a lot of left shot wingers coming along so this is a top 5 on my list to watch at camp

The battle for the second and third line LW spots

I'm assuming Boston exposes him
What about the defense?

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I notice him almost every shift. He's a modern day Shawn Thornton. You must have kept missing the reason why I keep posting this, I've stated multiple times. If you look at the teams that were in the playoffs, almost all of them have a guy like this.

The effect Matt Martin has had on the youth in Toronto has been enormous. Knowing you have a guy like that having your back as a young kid, goes a long way on and off the ice. He's a team builder. Reaves is of the same ilk.




What about the defense?
Chara - McAvoy or Carlo
Krug- McAvoy or Carlo
Morrow- K Miller
Colin Miller
O'Gara

McQuaid selected

I'm a Morrow guy so I may be seeing what I want to see here but I saw him in Providence a lot and he's got some offensive skills not yet put on display in Boston

If I'm Vegas I have my scouts all over Morrow and Colin Miller and would one be a better pick than McQuaid

McQuaid contract contrary to Bruins followers is not bad and he's got 13 Cup Finals games and is a tough SOB and a strong PK who can play very physical without crossing line

I can tell you a sit right in back of net periods 1 & 3 and the opposition is very respectful of #54 and aware of him

If I'm Sweeney I want to retain him and hope they take Colin Miller

Vegas can select McQuaid and flip him if he's healthy at the trade deadline

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Ryan Reaves can play on my fourth line any day of the week. Guy's an absolute animal. Hits like a freight train, intimidating as hell... no one wants to go face to face with that guy.

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Marchand -- Bergeron -- Vatrano

Cehlarik -- Krejci -- Pasta

DeBrusk -- Backes -- Heinen

Kuraly -- Nash -- Acciari

13th: Schaller


Krug -- Carlo

Chara -- McAvoy

CMiller -- KMiller

7th: O'Gara

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Ryan Reaves would make that 4th line much better. I really hope the Bruins acquire a guy like that. The Matt Martin effect in Toronto.
Toronto was good because they got a borderline generational talent, marner, and a more mature Nylander. As well as a top pairing defenseman in Zaitsev. Martin's bad contract had nothing to do with it.

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Toronto was good because they got a borderline generational talent, marner, and a more mature Nylander. As well as a top pairing defenseman in Zaitsev. Martin's bad contract had nothing to do with it.
That's too short sighted. Ask the players and Babcock what they think of Martin. They know.

But maybe you're right. They just brought him in to eat up cap, nothing else.

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Marchand -- Bergeron -- Vatrano

Cehlarik -- Krejci -- Pasta

DeBrusk -- Backes -- Heinen

Kuraly -- Nash -- Acciari

13th: Schaller


Krug -- Carlo

Chara -- McAvoy

CMiller -- KMiller

7th: O'Gara

That might be a little too young. The only veteran winger you have there is Marchand. And then more kids on defence. And leave you with more than $15M in unused Cap Space.
I'm excited to see what kids make it over the next two seasons but don't think they have to rush too many in at once.

I kinda hope Sweeney trades for two wingers with one or two years left on their contracts - allowing the kids call-ups and more time to develop. Rick Nash is $7.8M but only has one year left. E. Kane is $5.25 with one year left. Kovalchuk could be an option if he's willing to sign for two years. and a few others.

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak
Nash - Krejci - Kovalchuk ($5)
Beleskey - Backes - Heinen
Vatrano, Kuraly, Nash, Acciari, Schaller, DeBrusk, JFK

I don't know. I'm bad at this but wouldn't mind them having another year of easing the kids into the line-up. And also think that what should be a pretty solid defence is going to cost under $15M the next two years (which is amazing) and you've got to try and take advantage of that.

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That's too short sighted. Ask the players and Babcock what they think of Martin. They know.

But maybe you're right. They just brought him in to eat up cap, nothing else.
You are correct that Martin had some impact.

But make no mistake the main reasons for Toronto's improvement were Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Zaitsev

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