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06-14-2017, 02:01 PM
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After seeing some of the lists kicking around and people mocking many of them have Vegas taking Griffin Reinhart. Who would you take it you were Vegas?

If I was Vegas I'd take Jujhar Kairi. Young tough winger with size and grit, not expensive.

I certainly wouldn't take a guy like Pouliot unless the oilers paid me a lot to take him,
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Another reason they might not take Griff is because of the similar but more proven options available to them. Mirco Mueller from SJ, Fredrik Claesson from Ott(who was fantastic for them in the playoffs), there's a rumor they might be getting Shea Theodore from Ana for not taking Vatanen/Manson.

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How is that? Khaira has the upside of a 4th liner. Maybe a fringe 3rd liner at best but I don't see it. Reinhart for all his flaws could still be a top 4 D even if he's just a good bottom pair guy that's more valueble than Jujars ceiling as a player. Not sure what so many people see in Khaira.
Both are lower end players on teams but there is no slam dunk that Reinhart even makes it at all. Khaira can skate at the NHL level which is still up in the air for Reinhart. It will depend on who else is available obviously but it's no slam dunk in my mind.

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I think in regards to the Pacific, LV will be willing to take less value if it means sabotaging the other teams.

Pouliot's the best player available from Edmonton, but taking that 4 mil off the books helps the Oil more than it hinders them.

Brossoit has decent upside, but the backup goalie market is fairly saturated. It doesn't make sense for LV to waste a selection spot there as there are likely better #2 options in the expansion draft, nor does it hurt Edmonton.

Khaira's a bit more interesting, as he has some intriguing tools, but he is still a depth forward and losing him doesn't really hurt Edmonton. Also you can find similar guys in the UFA market on the cheap.
**Same with Pakarinen, or any of the other depth forwards here.

Reinhart on the other hand hits a lot of boxes for LV. He's got the highest upside of anyone available here. He's cheap so you'd be hurting Edmonton's cap. Plus as the Oil already dealt Davidson, you're taking the team's last "ready to step in", young defenceman.

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06-14-2017, 02:20 PM
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Hopefully beards take precedence in their decision.

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06-14-2017, 02:47 PM
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Reinhart is NHL ready but was held back due to cap bonuses. LV easily takes him.

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06-14-2017, 03:03 PM
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Depends on whether or not they need an expert PKer. Pouliot is unreal in that area.

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Definitely Reinhart. JJ is a nice depth forward, but Griffin could be a 2nd pairing defenseman for years to come, and that's far more valuable than a player who's likely best case is a 3rd line winger (I don't see him as a C in the NHL). I know there is much move value available to the Golden Knights on defense than forward, and they have to take at least 14 forwards in the draft, but the goal in the expansion draft is to assemble the best collection of assets, not to create the best possible roster. And Reinhart is a much better asset to have at your disposal than Khaira.

In fact, the value of defensemen compared to wingers is so great, that I'd likely end up selecting the minimum number of forwards and goalies required and load up on defense as much as possible. With a collection of NHL defensemen and loads of cap space, they should have no trouble adding forwards that are far superior to what will be available to them in the expansion draft.

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Reinhart...young d-men with upside are still valuable...especially for expansion teams

JJ is a dime-a-dozen 4th liner at the moment

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Reinhart's a goner unless we pay up for them to take Pouliot.

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I wouldn't rule out Pouliot. High paid forwards who are also good are in limited availability because lots will be protected and Vegas needs to reach the cap floor.

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As I said before people seem to value Reinhart way more on here than me and I suspect other teams in this league.

He's not even close to a long term 2nd pairing guy imo.

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I think it really depends what other pieces they get.

If they feel like they have a pretty strong defense, then pick Khaira.

If they have room for Reinhart, pick him.

Honestly if the team wants to be competitive, they might be better just taking Pouillot and trying to get a pick out of the Oilers. Hes a better player than either of them currently. Theres no guarantee that Khaira, Reinhart turn out to be impactful pieces. The draft pick might be more useful to them.

In the end I dont think the Oilers are going to lose much.

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As I said before people seem to value Reinhart way more on here than me and I suspect other teams in this league.

He's not even close to a long term 2nd pairing guy imo.
He's still a way better prospect than anyone else available. They'll either take Pouliot or him. Outside shot at Brossoit.

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He's still a way better prospect than anyone else available. They'll either take Pouliot or him. Outside shot at Brossoit.
Or Khaira. But yes almost guaranteed to take one of those two, short of making a significant offer to pick someone else I guess.

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06-14-2017, 04:41 PM
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Griffin Reinhart, not even much of a debate IMO. Free 1st rounder basically, maybe not a top end 1st like how he was selected but he'd go in the 1st round in this year's draft.

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As I said before people seem to value Reinhart way more on here than me and I suspect other teams in this league.

He's not even close to a long term 2nd pairing guy imo.
I agree, his upside is Luke Schenn, buy Flyers Luke Schenn. Id take Osterle over him. Even if Osterle has a 10% shot of making it, its beats Reinharts 5%. Osterle was better in the AHL and NHL to boot

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I would take Pouliot. He's not as bad as he was this season.

Probably good for 30ish points, great PKing and basically clicks with anyone he plays with. The contract isn't great, but it isn't horrible. Get a season out of him and then deal him for a pick next deadline.

Every team in the league is going to be exposing a better defenseman than Reinhart. Not even worth considering, IMO.

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is reinhart waiver eligible?

edit; (yes)

....thought it seems like it woul dbe impossible to draft and oiler who is ineligible for waivers

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is reinhart waiver eligible?
He will be next season.

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He will be next season.
i don't think there are any elibile players that won't go through waivers from what i can tell.

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i don't think there are any elibile players that won't go through waivers from what i can tell.
There's a handful of exposed goalies that are waiver exempt.

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There's a handful of exposed goalies that are waiver exempt.
on edmonton? i meant edmonton.....


but yeah....that should make things even more interesting......a lot of teams who would lose players for nothing....if not now....then next year.

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Brossoit

Then, as Vegas GM, I shop him around if I already have a different back up I want for myself. Every single team in the league wants a young goalie with some NHL resume as a back up. Most teams already have D prospects of Reinhart's caliber

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Brossoit

Then, as Vegas GM, I shop him around if I already have a different back up I want for myself. Every single team in the league wants a young goalie with some NHL resume as a back up. Most teams already have D prospects of Reinhart's caliber
There must be more proven backups out there than Brossoit.

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