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06-15-2017, 11:44 AM
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Observations XIX

Old thread at 1000.

Hoping 303 eventually finds his way back to this thread at some point...

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As much as I'd like to see Housley remain and teach Girard, Fabbro etc a thing or two, I too believe he's as good as gone.
That part stinks, but the Preds developed plenty of very good (or better) D-men before him and I imagine they will continue to do so after. I actually think this may be a good thing, at least for the next season or two, if handled correctly. It's a chance to get someone that can run a power play and 3-on-3 better.

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06-15-2017, 11:56 AM
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Quick off-ice observation:

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But, but, but... There's NO economic benefit to the city having the Predators. They're just a leach on taxpayers. Send them to Hamilton!

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Anyone see the blurb from Poile regarding injuries- said that we may have “one guy that might be a little late getting to training camp”.

Apparently talking about Ryan Ellis. His injury has not been disclosed anywhere that I have seen, but supposedly he will have to have some kind of surgery.

Ugghh- that does not sound good if he won’t even be ready 4 months from now. Hopefully it is at least something he can fully recover from.

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Anyone see the blurb from Poile regarding injuries- said that we may have “one guy that might be a little late getting to training camp”.

Apparently talking about Ryan Ellis. His injury has not been disclosed anywhere that I have seen, but supposedly he will have to have some kind of surgery.

Ugghh- that does not sound good if he won’t even be ready 4 months from now. Hopefully it is at least something he can fully recover from.
Looked to me like they were looking at his lower back in Game 5 when he came off the ice. Hopefully, it doesn't become a Sully situation.

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Anyone see the blurb from Poile regarding injuries- said that we may have “one guy that might be a little late getting to training camp”.

Apparently talking about Ryan Ellis. His injury has not been disclosed anywhere that I have seen, but supposedly he will have to have some kind of surgery.

Ugghh- that does not sound good if he won’t even be ready 4 months from now. Hopefully it is at least something he can fully recover from.
Training camp is 3 months out, regular season is about 4 months away.

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I think its interesting how much money they attribute to CMA fest which occurred sandwiched around Preds SCF games. I think that is misleading.

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Training camp is 3 months out, regular season is about 4 months away.
wow... playing all the way into June sure does shorten the summer... pretty awesome that there will be so little down time, given how excited we should all be about next year.

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wow... playing all the way into June sure does shorten the summer... pretty awesome that there will be so little down time, given how excited we should all be about next year.
That hit me somewhere around game 3 or 4. I see it as a blessing and a curse.

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God dammit NHL, I got my slot car track all set up and ready to play with my ****ing cars but then trades are happening, coaches are getting promoted and the next thing ya know it's gonna be the ****ing draft!

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Haven't seen this on the board yet, so I thought I'd share it. Jerseys look sharp!


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06-16-2017, 08:41 AM
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Haven't seen this on the board yet, so I thought I'd share it. Jerseys look sharp!

As somebody pointed out, the navy blue stripe thingy along the back is gone. Probably ends up being a nice improvement.

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As somebody pointed out, the navy blue stripe thingy along the back is gone. Probably ends up being a nice improvement.
Definitely, and the fugly white piping appears to be gone as well!

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The piping was the only thing I hated about those.

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I've spent the miserable weak since we were eliminated reading about GAR, or goals above replacement -- finally someone has taken the go-to baseball analytic tool and made a crack at applying it to hockey:

https://hockey-graphs.com/2016/10/28...final-remarks/

Here's the data for the Predators. Basically nothing shocking, other than Ellis and Forsberg are basically at an elite level, league-wide and Cody McLeod is very bad. Also, Jarnkrok, while a nice player, wouldn't be as terribly missed if selected by LV as we think.


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^^^^^Parenteau?

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^^^^^Parenteau?
Most advanced stat models really like PAP, actually. Which always surprises me.

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Too bad the scoreboard doesn't lol

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Yeah..so Paranteau and Fiddler, huh? NEXT!

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Just watched the final episode of the Showtime all-access show- if you haven't seen it, don't watch it if you don't think you can handle it. Not sure why I tortured myself- had to fast forward through most of it. But the Preds locker room scene after game 6 was pretty powerful (and sad) stuff....

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Just watched the final episode of the Showtime all-access show- if you haven't seen it, don't watch it if you don't think you can handle it. Not sure why I tortured myself- had to fast forward through most of it. But the Preds locker room scene after game 6 was pretty powerful (and sad) stuff....
I had to fast forward through parts as well. The locker room scene was gut wrenching. I felt awful leaving the arena that night. But those players were crushed. I hope Fisher comes back for one more year. Pretty amazing to see him pour out his soul to his teammates.

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I'm so sick of hearing how Pollock made the right call on the ice, and you "can't win a game without scoring a goal."

If the right call is being out of position, whistling the puck as dead when it never was stopped, and disallowing an obvious and legal goal, then hockey is stupid.

As for the "not scoring a goal part", the Preds did score a goal. The Penguins didn't until the final two minutes of the game.

This is a shameful and stupid argument.

I'm also sick of hearing, "it is such a hard thing to legislate."

In other words, yeah, it sucked, but deal with it, and we aren't going to fix it. In a league making billions, this isn't good enough.

Get it together NHL. The officiating has been awful for years. The playoffs are inconsistent and directly impacted the Predators in 2 pivotal moments, game 1 and 6 of the SCF and cost them the opening goal in each.

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I'm so sick of hearing how Pollock made the right call on the ice, and you "can't win a game without scoring a goal."

If the right call is being out of position, whistling the puck as dead when it never was stopped, and disallowing an obvious and legal goal, then hockey is stupid.

As for the "not scoring a goal part", the Preds did score a goal. The Penguins didn't until the final two minutes of the game.

This is a shameful and stupid argument.

I'm also sick of hearing, "it is such a hard thing to legislate."

In other words, yeah, it sucked, but deal with it, and we aren't going to fix it. In a league making billions, this isn't good enough.

Get it together NHL. The officiating has been awful for years. The playoffs are inconsistent and directly impacted the Predators in 2 pivotal moments, game 1 and 6 of the SCF and cost them the opening goal in each.
And as has been pointed out repeatedly, what makes it a million times worse is they WILL OVERTURN a goal on someone being offsides by one millionth of a centimeter- based on a totally inconclusive replay- but not on a call like this where the right call is clear as a bell....

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Pollock blows that whistle literally a quarter of the second later, the puck is already in the net and the goal counts. That's why it's so stupid. When you blow the whistle right as the stick is hitting the puck, there needs to be some discretion from the league to look at a couple of things.

1. Was the puck ever covered or covered for a sufficient amount of time that blowing the whistle could be considered if not the right call, a judgment call?

2. Did the whistle blowing, even if it was wrong and premature stop the play that was still happening?

Obviously the puck was never covered in question 1 and the play was just about to reach its conclusion when the whistle blew in question 2.

Now if the puck is laying in the crease and nobody's really near it and the whistle blows and then Sissons comes skating in and knocks the puck in two seconds later after everyone stopped because the whistle blew, that's different. It's still the wrong call for a premature whistle but you could at least make the argument that without the whistle, Murray would realize he didn't have the puck and would move to try to find it but there needs to be a replay every time in that scenario to see when the whistle was and where the puck was when the whistle blew. If the whistle doesn't effect the effort of the players on the play, the goal needs to count.

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