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06-15-2017, 05:05 PM
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Roster Speculation 2017-2018, Episode IV, A New Hope

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I'm only going off what I've seen so far.
After all, playing with Eichel and O'Reilly, I expected more.
Yes, its only an opinion. But, we have ROR and Jack, I don't see Sam moving to center.
O'Reilly and Reinhart dominate the ice when they play together.

Eichel has been getting dominated for 2 years when he doesn't have Reinhart on his wing.



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O'Reilly and Reinhart dominate the ice when they play together.

Eichel has been getting dominated for 2 years when he doesn't have Reinhart on his wing.

So your saying Reinhart is the key to Ryan and Jacks success?
Hold on a second........

Buhahahahaha.......buhahahahahahaha.......no, really......buhahahahahahahahaha

Ok, let me catch my breathe for a moment..........

For a moment there, I could have sworn you were implying Reinhart is the key to the kingdom.......even though he didn't play with ROR at the most recent WC.

Well then, thank God we have Reinhart, without him, these chumps would be really bad, like not making it out of the bottom 10 bad......


Buhahahahahaha

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I guess 2 years of the best line on the team being the one Reinhart is on is still not enough to convince some people of his impact because he doesn't dangle enough.

Oh well, I'll just start gathering the crow. We'll need a LOT.

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I guess 2 years of the best line on the team being the one Reinhart is on is still not enough to convince some people of his impact because he doesn't dangle enough.

Oh well, I'll just start gathering the crow. We'll need a LOT.
Not with the conclusions you're drawing we won't.

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I guess 2 years of the best line on the team being the one Reinhart is on is still not enough to convince some people of his impact because he doesn't dangle enough.

Oh well, I'll just start gathering the crow. We'll need a LOT.
Been watching and playing hockey for 46 years now. Crows not on the menu.

If, and yes, merely an if. But if this team wants to garner an impact player or 2 in an effort to climb out of the basement, Reinhart is the one to move. Long before ROR or Jack. That's just reality.

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If you're defending Jack Eichel's performance over the past two seasons while shading Reinhart, delete your account.

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If you're defending Jack Eichel's performance over the past two seasons while shading Reinhart, delete your account.
You certainly don't need to do either. Jack and ROR are both better than Sam. They both play better with Sam but holy batman and robin.

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You certainly don't need to do either. Jack and ROR are both better than Sam. They both play better with Sam but holy batman and robin.
Over the past 2 seasons, this is not nearly as clear cut as you make it seem.

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Over the past 2 seasons, this is not nearly as clear cut as you make it seem.
It's fairly clear cut.

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You certainly don't need to do either. Jack and ROR are both better than Sam. They both play better with Sam but holy batman and robin.
Most people shading Reinhart are either blaming Bylsma for Eichel being a trash ES player or ignoring it entirely. It remains a laughably inconsistent opinion.

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If you're defending Jack Eichel's performance over the past two seasons while shading Reinhart, delete your account.
I have not seen 1 post from those (including myself) defending Jack. What I have seen, and spoken myself on, is players value on the current roster combined with opinions on what would improve the team overall.

I stated I felt Sam would be a 50 point player, and there's no shame in that. Some seasons he may go 57, some 43, the statement was made averaging, not 50 season by season. But then, once you take the blinders off, you realize this. That being said, there are those of us who believe the team could do better.

Now, is that opinion? Sure it is. But you reap what you sow. A comment like "I don't even know why I bother" without asking the merits of why deserves a little chiding. At least in my "opinion".

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Over the past 2 seasons, this is not nearly as clear cut as you make it seem.
It's clear.

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I have not seen 1 post from those (including myself) defending Jack. What I have seen, and spoken myself on, is players value on the current roster combined with opinions on what would improve the team overall.

I stated I felt Sam would be a 50 point player, and there's no shame in that. Some seasons he may go 57, some 43, the statement was made averaging, not 50 season by season. But then, once you take the blinders off, you realize this. That being said, there are those of us who believe the team could do better.

Now, is that opinion? Sure it is. But you reap what you sow. A comment like "I don't even know why I bother" without asking the merits of why deserves a little chiding. At least in my "opinion".
50-55 point player is good in the NHL these days, thats what so many of you fail to see.

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I can see it clear as day. Next season Reinhart gets 60+ points but some people will shun it because he only got 42 in his rookie season and is still a 50 point guy.

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I can see it clear as day. Next season Reinhart gets 60+ points but some people will shun it because he only got 42 in his rookie season and is still a 50 point guy.
Make up whatever you need to in order to feel better about your day.

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50-55 point player is good in the NHL these days, thats what so many of you fail to see.
I mean, 30 points is top 6 calibre if said player doesn't play on the powerplay.

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50-55 point player is good in the NHL these days, thats what so many of you fail to see.
Your dodging. The team could do better was clearly stated.

In not a Reinhart hater if your wondering. This had everything to do with improving the team. Its perfectly ok if others disagree, but jeez, post an opinion, get kicked in the ass for it, then chide a bit for the opinion and all of sudden its blasphemy lol

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Sam Reinhart, when developed, is going to average about 10% more points than he did when we had zero skaters in the top 90 for ES scoring rate.

You guys are definitely looking at this rationally and not emotionally invested in defending a dumbass opinion.

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Playing on an above average 5on5 offense (not even top 10) should by itself give Reinhart 5 more points. Then another 5 points from normalized sh%. That's an easily achievable 10 point increase for Reinhart without improving and without increasing his PP role.

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I can see it clear as day. Next season Reinhart gets 60+ points but some people will shun it because he only got 42 in his rookie season and is still a 50 point guy.
Just wanna know, do you stalk Sam Reinhart??

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Just wanna know, do you stalk Sam Reinhart??
No. Unless following him on instagram counts .

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Considering what Habs got for 2016 #9, how bad does Nylander look at #8?

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