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06-15-2017, 09:49 PM
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The Drouin trade got me excited, let's play! Here are some lines, assuming no other major trades (which I don't think will be the case...)

Pacioretty - Drouin - Gallagher (Let's see if there is chemistry)

Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Radulov (Radu and Alex should play together. Hudon could replace Lehkonen)

Hudon - Danault - Shaw (Lekhonen play well with these two guys, but Hudon would fit well there too)

Byron - JDLR - Mitchell (Would be fun to see how they do)


Jerabek - Weber

Markov - Petry

Beaulieu - Benn


Price
Montoya


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Don't think Drouin will be center, most likely a winger.

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The Drouin trade got me excited, let's play! Here are some lines, assuming no other major trades (which I don't think will be the case...)

Pacioretty - Drouin - Gallagher (Let's see if there is chemistry)

Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Radulov (Radu and Alex should play together. Hudon could replace Lehkonen)

Hudon - Danault - Shaw (Lekhonen play well with these two guys, but Hudon would fit well there too)

JDLR - Mitchell - McCarron (Would be fun to see how they do)


Jerabek - Weber

Markov - Petry

Beaulieu - Benn


Price
Montoya
McGuire on tsn 690 said that drouin will NOT play centre. Get that out of your heads

I trust McGuire more than any poster on hfboards

He said that this deal did not address their biggest concern about a centre

This is a complementary trade. By the way I'm not sure he liked it due to the age

But I trust McGuire over anybody here

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Where's Lord Byron? If you somehow got rid of Emelin and Plekasex that's 10M of cap, Bergevin would clearly do something with that cap.

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06-15-2017, 10:00 PM
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Well McGuire doesn't work for the Habs so he doesn't know what the plan is. I trust Bergevin saying Drouin and Julien will talk and see whether he'll be tried at centre or not.

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McGuire on tsn 690 said that drouin will NOT play centre. Get that out of your heads

I trust McGuire more than any poster on hfboards

He said that this deal did not address their biggest concern about a centre

This is a complementary trade. By the way I'm not sure he liked it due to the age

But I trust McGuire over anybody here
McGuire is a blowhard that's still upset Bergevin was selected instead of him so he tries to crap on any deals Marc makes.

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McGuire is a blowhard that's still upset Bergevin was selected instead of him so he tries to crap on any deals Marc makes.
If McGuire was gm we would still have subban

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Nah, he would have traded him for Yakupov.

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Radulov Galchenyuk Drouin
Pacioretty Plekanec Gallagher
Lehkonen Danault Shaw
Hudon Mitchell Byron
x-De La Rose, Martinsen
-McCarron and Scherbak are on the final years of their ELC and will get first call ups

Beaulieu Weber
Markov Petry
Emelin Benn
x-Davidson


Now expansion draft will take a player away from this roster.

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06-15-2017, 10:18 PM
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Drouin himself said he's played all 3 forward positions. We'll see I guess. With no other moves:

Pacioretty - Danault - Radulov

Drouin - Plekanec - Gallagher

Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Shaw

Byron - McCarron - Mitchell

DLR/Hudon/Martinsen


Markov - Weber

Benn - Petry

Jerabek - Davidson/Beaulieu/Emelin

Price
Montoya

Of course, we're losing at least 1 player to LV.

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In an ideal world, dumping the right contracts, acquiring the right players, signing a stop gap 2C, etc. --

Jonathan Drouin - Alex Galchenyuk - Alexander Radulov
Max Pacioretty - Joe Thornton/Derek Stepan/Matt Duchene - Artturi Lehkonen
Charles Hudon - Philip Danault - Brendan Gallagher
Paul Byron - Michael McCarron - Andrew Shaw
Andreas Martinsen - Jacob de la Rose - Torrey Mitchell

Jonas Brodin/Cam Fowler - Shea Weber
Andrei Markov - Jeff Petry
Alexei Emelin - Nathan Beaulieu
Jordie Benn - Brandon Davidson

Carey Price
Al Montoya
Charlie Lindgren

***

...but this is the real world, things don't go as planned, so at best I can just make this rough lineup based on rumours, with the question marks equaling just that, question marks since we may not have those positions filled atm with Galchenyuk and Beaulieu rumours in particular --

Max Pacioretty - Jonathan Drouin - Alexander Radulov
Artturi Lehkonen - ??? / Philip Danault - Brendan Gallagher
Charles Hudon - ??? / Philip Danault - Andrew Shaw
Paul Byron - ??? / Torrey Mitchell - ??? / Michael McCarron
Andreas Martinsen - Jacob de la Rose - Daniel Carr

??? / Alexei Emelin (?) - Shea Weber
Andrei Markov - Jeff Petry
Jordie Benn - ???
Brandon Davidson - Jakub Jerabek

Carey Price
Al Montoya
Charlie Lindgren

...and this one is assuming they move Drouin to centre, which seems like a possibility based off the press conference where Bergy said Drouin and Julien would have a meeting and discuss the possibility. I think Drouin's game would do well there, though.

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Assuming we don't make any more trades, I wouldn't mind seeing

Drouin - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Patches - Danault - Gally
Lehkonen - Pleky - Shaw
Hudon - McCarron - Byron

Markov - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Benn - Beaulieu
Would like to see jerabek slot in somewhere, maybe if emelin goes.

Realistically, our top 6 will probably look something like

Patches - Danault - Radulov
Lehkonen - Drouin - Galchenyuk
Which I wouldn't really mind either. I just hope we get to see 27 and 72 play together. That is... if they don't trade away Galchenyuk. Our top 6 will be looking really good if we can find a top2 C.

Also heard on an interview Drouin saying that he doesn't mind playing C if he is asked. That being said, he might not be anywhere near as effective at C as he is on the wing.

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If McGuire was gm we would still have subban
we would also still have Therrien...

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Nah, he would have traded him for Yakupov.
McGuire said his asking price from EDM perspective would have been Subban +3rd overall for 1st overall (in 2012). So, Subban + Galchenyuk for Yakupov.

Now, don't try to divert how ridiculous this is by saying McGuire was just discussing from EDM's perspective. The proposal is so ridiculously loopsided the guy should lose his job just for thinking this was anywhere in the realm of what is possible.

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Pacioretty - Joe Thornton - Radulov
Drouin - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Danault - Byron
McCarron/Shaw/Mitchell/de la Rose/Martinsen

Beaulieu - Weber
Markov - Petry
Davidson/Jerabek - Benn



...yes, I'm hoping Vegas takes Emelin or Plekanec...praying, almost...

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Pacioretty Danault Radulov
Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher
Lehkonen Plekanec Shaw
Byron Hudon McCarron


With this line up I feel Lehkonen and Byron are underused and that's too much for Danault.

What I would like is for Bergevin to trade Pacioretty for a top 6 center, so that Lehknon and Byron move up a spot and Danault is the 3rd line center. Plekanek disappears. Mitchell, the norwegian man and a few others can alternate for the last spot.

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Pacioretty Danault Radulov
Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher
Lehkonen Plekanec Shaw
Byron Hudon McCarron


With this line up I feel Lehkonen and Byron are underused and that's too much for Danault.

What I would like is for Bergevin to trade Pacioretty for a top 6 center, so that Lehknon and Byron move up a spot and Danault is the 3rd line center. Plekanek disappears. Mitchell, the norwegian man and a few others can alternate for the last spot.
You can't sell me with danault playing as a top line center. He did very well at the beginning of the year, but so did alot of players. He also performed very well during the injury riddled stretch in the middle of the year. Its all positive, but what it means is that danault is a great 3C option, who isn't a bad filler if injuries arise.

I think drouin should be explored at centre, because LW is just loaded as it stands.

If I am a GM, I covet the centre position greatly, and a top line winger is not going to entice me into giving a top centre, so don't expect pacioretty to provide you the return that the habs need.

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So after signing Drouin, there is 17m cap space remaining. Markov, Galchenyuk, Radulov, Beaulieu need to be resigned. If Markov+Radulov combine for 12m, that doesn't leave enough room to resign Galchenyuk and Beaulieu. And that doesn't include the other 2 roster spots that need to be filled. So what happens?

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we would also still have Therrien...
Therrien wouldn't have even had a sniff at coaching the Canadiens and would still be on anti chamber hating on subban

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So after signing Drouin, there is 17m cap space remaining. Markov, Galchenyuk, Radulov, Beaulieu need to be resigned. If Markov+Radulov combine for 12m, that doesn't leave enough room to resign Galchenyuk and Beaulieu. And that doesn't include the other 2 roster spots that need to be filled. So what happens?

I would love to find a way to dump Plekanec, Emelin, Gallagher, and Shaw, instead of not being able to sign better players like Markov, Galchenyuk, Radulov and even Beaulieu.

Gallagher and Shaw should be able to be traded for assets. Plekanec and Emelin will require packaging assets. Hopefully we can use the assets we get by trading Gallagher and Shaw, plus a pick/prospect to get a 2nd line center.

Pacioretty Danault Radulov

Drouin **2nd C** Galchenyuk

Lehkonen Mitchell Byron

Hudon Flynn McCarron (Scherbak if he's ready)

Martinsen, Terry

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So after signing Drouin, there is 17m cap space remaining. Markov, Galchenyuk, Radulov, Beaulieu need to be resigned. If Markov+Radulov combine for 12m, that doesn't leave enough room to resign Galchenyuk and Beaulieu. And that doesn't include the other 2 roster spots that need to be filled. So what happens?
Replacing Emelin with Jerabek (or some Benn type making $1M) saves 3M, leaving $20M.

Beaulieu 3 @2.5M. Markov 1 @4.5. That leaves $13M for Radulov and Galchenyuk which is tight but doable.

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Replacing Emelin with Jerabek (or some Benn type making $1M) saves 3M, leaving $20M.

Beaulieu 3 @2.5M. Markov 1 @4.5. That leaves $13M for Radulov and Galchenyuk which is tight but doable.

Sending Plekanec to Vegas would alleviate a lot of the cap problems (if Emelin goes too all the better).

What would you be willing to give Vegas to take Plekanec? What about to take Plekanec and Emelin?

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Sending Plekanec to Vegas would alleviate a lot of the cap problems (if Emelin goes too all the better).

What would you be willing to give Vegas to take Plekanec? What about to take Plekanec and Emelin?
Nothing.

If it can be managed, start the season with Plekanec as the 3C and commit to trading him at the TDL. Plek on an expiring contract with 30 games left might get as much as a 1st (see: Hanzal, Vermette, Gaustad). 2nd at worst. Because of this I could see Vegas taking Plekanec with a plan to flip him at the TDL.

IfPlek is not picked and you need to trade him in the summer, Plek with 1-2M retained gets an asset back, but even Plek (1M retained) for a 3rd >> trading picks to remove Plek.

Emelin with 1 year left, even at 4M, could be traded elsewhere for a pick, again do not see the need to pay assets to get Vegas to take him.

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Replacing Emelin with Jerabek (or some Benn type making $1M) saves 3M, leaving $20M.

Beaulieu 3 @2.5M. Markov 1 @4.5. That leaves $13M for Radulov and Galchenyuk which is tight but doable.
It may be wishful thinking that they can make the Plekanec and Emelin contacts disappear without taking cap back. Put yourself in VGK's shoes; would you take on either of those contacts when much better is avaliable to spend your cap dollars on?

Markov will cost minimum 5m. I'm thinking 5.5. Rads is going to be 6.5+. So the question remains. It's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. Hope MB doesn't screw it up after making a solid trade to get Drouin.

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