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06-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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If McGuire were GM much would be different ... but not necessarily better..

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Danault has no business being in the top-six next season.
He's our #2 C ... book it.

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I was responding to a poster wondering if this team could go through the season. But yeah I agree, improvements are needed to consider the Habs contenders. But these can happen during the season.
No they can't. You're not getting a centre in the middle of the season or the deadline. Can't stand when posters keep extending Bergevins deadline of acquiring a centre. It's June, then July 1 , then all summer then he has till the deadline. No, he has till July 1. The core of this team will be known by then.
Don't count on any centres coming in

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06-17-2017, 08:39 PM
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Johansen was traded mid-season but yeah it was an extremely rare case. Chances of a top C becoming available between Oct and March are slim to none.

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No they can't. You're not getting a centre in the middle of the season or the deadline. Can't stand when posters keep extending Bergevins deadline of acquiring a centre. It's June, then July 1 , then all summer then he has till the deadline. No, he has till July 1. The core of this team will be known by then.
Don't count on any centres coming in
Not sure what you're trying to say there. You want me to call him and tell him "man, I can't wait any longer, get me that 1C right now". Or maybe you want me to fire him already?

Getting a good center is always difficult, be it now, on july 1st, during the season or at the trade deadline. Last thing I want is to see the Habs overpay once again for a mediocre player. If there's nothing now, we should just wait.

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06-17-2017, 08:58 PM
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Not sure what you're trying to say there. You want me to call him and tell him "man, I can't wait any longer, get me that 1C right now". Or maybe you want me to fire him already?

Getting a good center is always difficult, be it now, on july 1st, during the season or at the trade deadline. Last thing I want is to see the Habs overpay once again for a mediocre player. If there's nothing now, we should just wait.
Yes we know it's difficult , Bergevin has told us a zillion times. This is now his 6th summer to get a centre. It's getting ridiculous. If you're gonna role with Galchenyuk, Danault and Pleks as your centres it will be another early exit , drouin or not

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06-17-2017, 09:04 PM
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Again how is Galchenyuk all of a sudden our 1 C ? Is it. By default? Bergevin would have to completed backtrack on what he said at the end of April when he said his short term future is on the wing.
Galchenyuk, Danault and Pleks is just as bad as last year
Also , Paul Byron is no longer a 4 th liner and radulov ATM is not a hab. If we re-sign him
I'd go with

Pacioretty-Danault-radulov
Drouin-xxx- Galchenyuk
Lehkonen-shaw-Gallagher
Martinsenn-Mitchell-McCarron
Hudon
This means Pleks has to be gone and a centre has to be acquired. Deeply doubt either happens. Pleks will probably centre the 2nd line
Just plugging holes. I mean, if I post the lineup based on contracts and rumours atm --

Drouin - xxx - xxx
Pacioretty - Danault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Plekanec - Shaw
Byron - xxx - McCarron/Mitchell
Martinsen, Hudon

xxx - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Benn - Davidson
Jerabek

Byron may be slotted on the 4th but it doesn't mean he has to be played like one. It's just our depth chart at the moment which looks really weak down the middle even though we're in good position on the wing.

If Drouin can flourish at center, it'd be ideal and really helpful as then you can roll --

Lehkonen - Drouin - xxx
Pacioretty - Danault - Gallagher
Byron - Plekanec - Shaw
xxx - xxx - McCarron/Mitchell
Martinsen, Hudon

Of course, that's assuming Drouin could flourish at C. I'd also prefer Plekanec be moved and we acquire a legit top-six centre but I'm not holding my breath on that.

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06-17-2017, 10:02 PM
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The Drouin trade got me excited, let's play! Here are some lines, assuming no other major trades (which I don't think will be the case...)

Pacioretty - Drouin - Gallagher (Let's see if there is chemistry)

Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Radulov (Radu and Alex should play together. Hudon could replace Lehkonen)

Hudon - Danault - Shaw (Lekhonen play well with these two guys, but Hudon would fit well there too)

Byron - JDLR - Mitchell (Would be fun to see how they do)


Jerabek - Weber

Markov - Petry

Beaulieu - Benn


Price
Montoya

With Beaulieu traded, here's an updated lineup. Radulov at center is the solution to me. He already plays like a center. Hope we can draft Brannstrom or Ikonen. Plekanec is miraculously taken by LV in the expansion draft.

Galchenyuk - Radulov - Gallagher (Galchenyuk needs grit and talent on his line. Radu/Gallagher are perfect for him.)

Pacioretty - Drouin - Shaw (Drouin-Patch is something I want to see. They will need Shaw to provide sandpaper on this line)

Lekhonen - Danault - Hudon (The kids' line. Toronto has shown that kids can benefit from playing and making mistakes together)

Byron - JDLR - Mitchell (We need to start training JDLR to be a center at the NHL level. Put him between two veterans this year)


Markov - Weber

Emelin - Petry

Jerabek - Benn


Price
Montoya


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06-17-2017, 10:10 PM
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Drouin-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Pacioretty-Danault-Lekhonen
Shaw-Plekanec-Gallagher
Byron-Mitchell-Hudon

Markov-Weber
Jerabek-Petry
Emelin-Benn

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06-17-2017, 10:14 PM
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Pacioretty - Drouin - Shaw
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Danault - UFA
DLR - McCarron - Martinsen
Mitchell

Brodin - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Markov - Benn
Jarabek, Davidson

PRICE

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06-17-2017, 11:58 PM
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We still have Free agency to solve the centers. I say we buyout plek give rad 7 mil. Sign hanzel and banino.

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06-18-2017, 12:22 AM
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Pacioretty - Drouin - Shaw
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Danault - UFA

DLR - McCarron - Martinsen
Mitchell

Brodin - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Markov - Benn
Jarabek, Davidson

PRICE

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06-18-2017, 12:23 AM
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Such an ugly top six - perfect gif

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06-18-2017, 12:30 AM
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I know it was a worst-case scenario but it hurts to even imagine this as a possibility. God forbid Radulov doesnt sign and Chucky is traded for a D.

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Pacioretty - Drouin - Shaw
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Danault - UFA
DLR - McCarron - Martinsen
Mitchell

Brodin - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Markov - Benn
Jarabek, Davidson

PRICE
That is a very possible scenario. Yikes.

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06-18-2017, 01:40 AM
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Pacioretty - Drouin - Shaw
Byron - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Danault - UFA
DLR - McCarron - Martinsen
Mitchell

Brodin - Weber
Emelin - Petry
Markov - Benn
Jarabek, Davidson

PRICE
That's the worst possible scenario for our lineup but a very real possibility unfortunately. That's funny considering many are describing Bergevin's actions as knowing he needs to go all in.

Another possibility --

Pacioretty - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Hanzal - Lehkonen
Byron - Plekanec - Shaw
xxx - McCarron - Mitchell
Martinsen, DLR

Brodin/MDZ - Weber
Markov - Petry
Emelin - Benn
Davidson, Jerabek

oh lord.


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06-18-2017, 02:05 AM
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Just stick Galchenyuk at center and give him time to figure things out.

Nobody complained about him being a center until the injury that completely took the wind out of the sails for him this season. He produced at an elite level and the team was winning.

To harp on things like faceoffs and defensive play on a guy that has proven he has the ability to score 30 goals in this league and generate offense at an elite rate is ridiculous. Look at every young centers around the league. How many have solid FO% numbers? It takes time. Galchenyuk hasn't been given nearly enough.

Of course, ideally that process would have been started years ago and we'd be further along the road today as we're supposed to be in our contending window. If only someone in that organization had the foresight to develop our most talented young player at the position he was drafted to play during all those years.


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06-18-2017, 08:48 AM
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Pacioretty-Danault-Radulov
Drouin-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Hanzal-Byron

Hudon-Mitchell-Shaw

If Radulov leaves, sign Oshie.

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Are we Okay with this forward core.

If Julien plays chucky at centre, are we happy with this forward core. I belI've Julien said he sees chucky as a centre he just needs time.

Patches-Danault-Radulov
Drouin-Chucky-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Shaw-Byron
Martinsen-Mitchel-Mccarron

It's very likely danault puts up 50pts next year as he had 40 this year in his first full season. that second line will do damage and the third will cause havoc.

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I really don't like Shaw at Center, and I have a hard to believe none of Hudon or Plekanec will start next season in Montreal.

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Danault is not a first line center. Shaw would be exposed as a regular C. Chucky is not trusted to be a centerman by management. Centre position needs immediate attention.

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Nope.

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We need a top 6 C

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Also Martinsen over Hudon is unless Hudon is picked by LV.

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I dint say this was ideal, however it's what we have to work with, Danault could very likely be a top 6 C, not fist line but of he can put up 50pts whilst playing a two way gme that makes him a top 6 centre. I want to see what Julien could do with Galchenyuk. Shaw is at centre on the third line as he is decent at faceoffs and is defensively sound. In no world is this ideal but it is what we have.

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