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06-18-2017, 08:35 PM
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If there was every any doubt that Garth Snow wasn't the worst GM in the league consider this. He's trading Vegas a 1st round pick so they will not select a forward, potentially losing Calvin DeHaan in the process, all because he refused to trade Travis Hamonic for Taylor Hall last season. Travis Hamonic, a defensemen who had decline written all over his game which shockingly turned out to be true this year. And Snow is still likely going to spend even more assets this summer to turn around and acquire... Jordan Eberle.
In his fairness we don't really have a clue what's gonna happen...but protecting Pelech and exposing CDH is a head scratcher...their entire process was a head scratcher actually...

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06-18-2017, 09:21 PM
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"Side deals" question...

Will the deals that consist of "we will leave Carrier unprotected for you to take, IF you don't take Ullmark", be officially announced as a transaction, or does it just go down as, LV selects Carrier from the Sabres?

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06-19-2017, 09:24 AM
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"Side deals" question...

Will the deals that consist of "we will leave Carrier unprotected for you to take, IF you don't take Ullmark", be officially announced as a transaction, or does it just go down as, LV selects Carrier from the Sabres?
The league won't disclose details outside of the selected player's name, I would guess. The media might report more, though.

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06-19-2017, 10:55 AM
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"Side deals" question...

Will the deals that consist of "we will leave Carrier unprotected for you to take, IF you don't take Ullmark", be officially announced as a transaction, or does it just go down as, LV selects Carrier from the Sabres?
Who knows but it also wouldn't surprise me if Carrier is the guy VGN wanted all along and the Sabres agreed to not protect him with the understanding a side deal will be made when LVN will trade for Bogosian/Moulson.

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06-19-2017, 11:03 AM
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Who knows but it also wouldn't surprise me if Carrier is the guy VGN wanted all along and the Sabres agreed to not protect him with the understanding a side deal will be made when LVN will trade for Bogosian/Moulson.
I hope you're right but I'm not buying it. I think he exposed Carrier so they keep their hands off Ullmark. Botts must like Ullmark better than Carrier.

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"Side deals" question...

Will the deals that consist of "we will leave Carrier unprotected for you to take, IF you don't take Ullmark", be officially announced as a transaction, or does it just go down as, LV selects Carrier from the Sabres?
The league would likely publically release the trade deal details likely after the roster announcement on Wednesday. McKenzie, Friedman et all will likely already say what the deals were.

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06-19-2017, 11:10 AM
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Who knows but it also wouldn't surprise me if Carrier is the guy VGN wanted all along and the Sabres agreed to not protect him with the understanding a side deal will be made when LVN will trade for Bogosian/Moulson.
My feeling is that Vegas takes Moulson then Buffalo trades Carrier to Vegas as part of a larger trade where Vegas picks someone and trades him to Buffalo.

They may have a deal if you take Moulson then you get Carrier...


I would not be pushing Bogo out the door

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I hope you're right but I'm not buying it. I think he exposed Carrier so they keep their hands off Ullmark. Botts must like Ullmark better than Carrier.
You are probably right but we will see. I'm just windering if LVN will be taking a defenseman Buffalo really would like and the cost ends up being Carrier, Bogo with us eating salary and maybe another prospect or pick.

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It’s going to be a manic Monday for George McPhee.

The Vegas GM announced that today will be the last day NHL clubs can complete trades to protect their players from the expansion draft, per Sportsnet. Once that deadline passes, McPhee and the Golden Knights will turn their attention to selecting players in preparation for Wednesday’s big roster reveal.

A couple of “side deals” are already believed to be in place. The Dispatch reported that Columbus will send this year’s first-round pick (24th overall) and a prospect to Vegas so that McPhee will select either left wing Matt Calvert, center William Karlsson or defenseman Ryan Murray.

There are also rumblings of Ducks GM Bob Murray having a deal in place to protect either — or both — of defensemen Sami Vatanen and Josh Manson.

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06-19-2017, 01:38 PM
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How can Columbus make a side deal for LV to select Ryan Murray if they already put Murray on their protected list?

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06-19-2017, 01:52 PM
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How can Columbus make a side deal for LV to select Ryan Murray if they already put Murray on their protected list?
Vegas selects a different player and immediately trades him back to Columbus for a package that includes Murray, Clarkson, their first, etc.

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06-19-2017, 01:57 PM
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Vegas selects a different player and immediately trades him back to Columbus for a package that includes Murray, Clarkson, their first, etc.
That's a different scenario from what was quoted above though. The quote says LV selects (possibly) Murray in the ED, not some other player just to be traded back for Murray. Whatever though, I think there's so much BS floating around right now these reporters can't keep their heads on straight.

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That's a different scenario from what was quoted above though. The quote says LV selects (possibly) Murray in the ED, not some other player just to be traded back for Murray. Whatever though, I think there's so much BS floating around right now these reporters can't keep their heads on straight.
Eh, that's what I get for not reading the article. I haven't seen any of the reputable analysts report on the Columbus side deal since we heard that their first round pick is in play, so in my eyes this is all just speculation anyway.

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How can Columbus make a side deal for LV to select Ryan Murray if they already put Murray on their protected list?
The report about Columbus is from before the protected lists were released.

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The report about Columbus is from before the protected lists were released.
That's what I was thinking, but it's dated for today. Was wondering if it was another lazy copy and paste type report...could be.

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Both Button and Seravalli have them taking Carrier?!

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Both Button and Seravalli have them taking Carrier?!
So it wont be carrier then woo

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That's what I was thinking, but it's dated for today. Was wondering if it was another lazy copy and paste type report...could be.
The linked article, yes, but if you follow the link in that article about the Columbus report, you'll see it's from Saturday morning. So 1) initial report comes out of Columbus, 2) protected list contradicts the report, 3) article references the original report but doesn't acknowledge the contradiction.

If they're going to cite the original report out of Columbus, they should cite it as is, but there certainly should be some sort of note that Murray ended up protected.

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No real idea of what our side deal actually is... but all things aside (without beating the Ennis horse to death anymore), I would have rather exposed Foligno than expose Carrier... oh well

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No real idea of what our side deal actually is... but all things aside (without beating the Ennis horse to death anymore), I would have rather exposed Foligno than expose Carrier... oh well
General consensus is that Carrier was exposed so that Vegas would leave Ullmark alone. Not much else makes sense about exposing him instead of Ennis or Foligno or even Girgensons.

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General consensus is that Carrier was exposed so that Vegas would leave Ullmark alone. Not much else makes sense about exposing him instead of Ennis or Foligno or even Girgensons.
Fleury/Mrazek/Grubauer/Raanta/Pickard/Subban

Are some of the options, why would they even entertain picking Linus?

For some reason they seem to think that there is something left in Ennis.

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