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06-23-2017, 05:10 PM
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Well, let's hope for another round of compliance buyouts or payment adjustments after the 2020 lockout. Just view this as a 3 year contract.
or he can just become allergic to his equipment

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06-23-2017, 05:10 PM
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With some strategic foresight, there's a bit of an escape hatch there unless he totally implodes.
Strategic what-what?

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06-23-2017, 05:11 PM
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or he can just become allergic to his equipment
Have to think the NHL closes the LTIRment loophole soon. Probably as soon as a team other than Philadelphia or Chicago tries it.

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06-23-2017, 05:12 PM
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$750K per year isn't a huge discount if you're giving him an additional 2-3 years worth of guaranteed salaries on the back end. Don't pretend this is a back-diving deal like Keith/Hossa/Pronger/etc.
Yeah but they can still either trade him or put him on LTIR towards the end ...since the NHL standards for that are down to allergies.

It was a great sign. Had to keep him there, to keep competing for the cup.

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He gets 6 years x 7 million if he hits the free agent market.

With the lower cap hit and increase to the salary cap next year they more or less keep him at the same price. I'm ok with it.

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06-23-2017, 05:14 PM
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Perfectly fine with it and he could have gotten $6.5 easily. His game will age gracefully imo. He's proven himself as core.
Yup. Figured longer term like 5-6yrs could get him below $6M but this is a looong deal and I'm fine with it. He'll play out his career on this contract and probably be a huge part of Caps marketing. This is a potential Captain contract and a banner on the front door that states "TOP FREE AGENTS WELCOME".

And in 8 years this number will seem very low. 8 years ago the salary cap was almost 17M less than it is now.

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Eight years is obscene. A lot of posters had the "we'll deal with the back half of his contract when we get there" approach with Orpik's contract as well, and guess what, we're in the back half. STOP SIGNING PLAYERS UNTIL THEY'RE THIRTY NINE.


AAV is tolerable, but doesn't leave a ton of room to maneuver. Orpik's contract still has to go if they want to address the 2nd pairing.
Cheer up man I know you are kind of a glass half empty person .

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fwiw

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According to CapFriendly, Oshie’s deal includes a no trade clause in all eight years of the contract: A 15-team no trade list in the first four years of the contract and a 10-team no trade list in the final four years.

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06-23-2017, 05:20 PM
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Cheer up man I know you are kind of a glass half empty person .
The full half of the glass is an upcoming work stoppage. Not sure whether to or

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Very long but love TJ and we can let him age into Justin Williams.

I'd really like it if the Captain and coach were moved out.

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Strategic what-what?
Strategic foresight. The ability to say 4 years from now (if applicable), "Okay, we're moving in the wrong direction. Need to rebuild. TJ's still playing well, his salary's down to $4.5m, and there's 20 teams we can talk to about moving him. Let's make a deal."

They softened the backend substantially, about as much as you can within the rules, is my point. If he's still potting 20 and a versatile, all-situations guy, moving him wouldn't have to be so hard. You might have to eat a little, but it wouldn't be impossible.

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Strategic foresight. The ability to say 4 years from now (if applicable), "Okay, we're moving in the wrong direction. Need to rebuild. TJ's still playing well, his salary's down to $4.5m, and there's 20 teams we can talk to about moving him. Let's make a deal."

They softened the backend substantially, about as much as you can within the rules, is my point. If he's still potting 20 and a versatile, all-situations guy, moving him wouldn't have to be so hard. You might have to eat a little, but it wouldn't be impossible.
Langway's point is that the Caps brass doesn't do that whole "strategic foresight" thing.

Limited NTCs are pretty standard operating procedure for the Caps, but then they allow all of their players to ride out until the end of the contract anyway.

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I can see Oshie being able to slide down to the 3rd line winger with his skill set as he ages. Always something good to try and factor looking at a player's skill set overall if it will age ok.

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Very long but love TJ and we can let him age into Justin Williams.

I'd really like it if the Captain and coach were moved out.
You'll get one of those.

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I can see Oshie being able to slide down to the 3rd line winger with his skill set as he ages. Always something good to try and factor looking at a player's skill set overall if it will age ok.
I wanted to see him carry the 3rd scoring line this year, AKA BEFORE he got a massive contract. If he could carry a scoring line on his own, I'd be much more comfortable giving this kind of money and term to him. Paying this much for the third wheel on the top line and a PP1 gunner seems like a big premium.

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Perfectly fine with it and he could have gotten $6.5 easily. His game will age gracefully imo. He's proven himself as core.
My sentiment exactly. His game is not predicated on speed or quickness. He's also a hard worker. The salary cap will likely be higher on the back half and the team in rebuild mode with more space. He would be a great guy to have in that scenario.

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You'll get one of those.
Yeah, Barry will get canned in January.

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Oshie seems like a good ambassador of the game, well liked and respected by all. Heck, he is practically Mr. USA. Definitely good insurance if we ever need a new face of the franchise.

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06-23-2017, 05:55 PM
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If anyone wants to jump back a few years, he's the thread after Dustin Brown was signed:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1471403

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If anyone wants to jump back a few years, he's the thread after Dustin Brown was signed:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1471403
Sometimes it happens. Oh well. Why assume the worst? I'd rather look ahead and consider Oshie's future, not Brown's past.

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I just love Oshie too much to hate this contract. Sorry.

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