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06-23-2017, 06:34 PM
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Langway's point is that the Caps brass doesn't do that whole "strategic foresight" thing.
The current "Caps brass" has only ever had teams on the rise. You have no idea what they'll do when the wheels start coming off the bus.

So far, Mac has been a practical guy that has been pretty good at identifying needs and making positive decisions. They weren't all stellar in retrospect, but he's made some tough calls that have paid off. There's little reason to believe he won't be just as practical when the team's outlook changes.

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Limited NTCs are pretty standard operating procedure for the Caps, but then they allow all of their players to ride out until the end of the contract anyway.
Mac's teams were always competitive. They all had a shot. Trading current impact value for the longer-term benefit of the franchise isn't what anyone wanted him to do. It was all geared toward being all-in this year.

So who did he let walk for nothing that he shouldn't have? Maybe Green. I'd agree with that, but the smart move with Green would have been to unload him way earlier. Downgrading the third pair and power play at his first TDL wouldn't have been the best move in the world. Way more on McPhee than Mac in this case.

Who else? Ward? Fehr? Chimera? Borderline at best in each of those cases. We could have gotten picks for Fehr and Chimera, but nothing that would have helped us. Ward, maybe if we'd done it in the offseason before, but no way at the TDL. He always outperformed his hit.

You're hanging a lot of pre-MacLellan stuff on Mac. I find him to be WAY more practical and less stubborn than McPhee.

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06-23-2017, 06:36 PM
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We needed right handed PP wingers for the slot anyway, and PK forwards (with faceoff ability) too. We could have either Williams or Oshie. Came to this.

AAV is good. This had to be done and its done.

Now if only Kuz would sign for 6M or so...

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06-23-2017, 06:48 PM
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Sometimes it happens. Oh well. Why assume the worst? I'd rather look ahead and consider Oshie's future, not Brown's past.
Why assume the worst? It's Hivemind!

I'm with you. Much rather find something positive in this.

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06-23-2017, 06:50 PM
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By the time Oshie's contract becomes a thing, Ovechkin will almost certainly be gone and the cap will go up.

Good move to keep him, talent+heart and soul.

Still need a major shake-up or ****ing who cares.

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06-23-2017, 07:08 PM
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Great signing but makes letting Schmidt go all the more stupid. If they had him locked up should have traded Mojo for the best ED exempt package and went 4-4-1 biting the bullet on Wilson

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06-23-2017, 07:10 PM
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Completely fine with this.

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06-23-2017, 07:10 PM
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Great signing but makes letting Schmidt go all the more stupid. If they had him locked up should have traded Mojo for the best ED exempt package and went 4-4-1 biting the bullet on Wilson
They didn't just let Schmidt go. They tried to keep him but couldn't.

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06-23-2017, 07:14 PM
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They didn't just let Schmidt go. They tried to keep him but couldn't.

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Yes they could have. They chose to protect forwards who were both more redundant and more easily replaced

Team in our position should have cashed in on non-exempt assets like Tampa did with Drouin

Wonder if Mojo + Grubauer could have touched Phoenix's 7th OA

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Yeah I'm good with it. Love Oshie and they couldn't let him get to UFA.

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06-23-2017, 07:15 PM
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Yes they could have. They chose to protect forwards who were both more redundant and more easily replaced

Team in our position should have cashed in on exposed assets like Tampa did.
Do you know how expansion draft works?

To protect Schmidt they have to do a 4-4-1 so which of burakovsky/johansson would you rather McPhee choose?

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06-23-2017, 07:17 PM
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I am good with this..he is that important to the team.

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06-23-2017, 07:17 PM
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Do you know how expansion draft works?

To protect Schmidt they have to do a 4-4-1 so which of burakovsky/johansson would you rather McPhee choose?
Protect Burakovsky and trade Johansson for best offer before the draft like Tampa did with Drouin

Top 6 of Ovechkin/Backstrom/Oshie + Bura/Kuz/Vrana/Wilson/Connolly, with additional resources from sending away Mojo that could be used to plug that hole.

Top 4 of Orlov/Niskanen/Schmidt/Carlson

Much better than what they have going for them now.

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06-23-2017, 07:58 PM
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It's fine. Not my money and there will probably be at least 2 lock-outs during that term if Count Chocula stays true to form.

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06-23-2017, 08:01 PM
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Protect Burakovsky and trade Johansson for best offer before the draft like Tampa did with Drouin

Top 6 of Ovechkin/Backstrom/Oshie + Bura/Kuz/Vrana/Wilson/Connolly, with additional resources from sending away Mojo that could be used to plug that hole.

Top 4 of Orlov/Niskanen/Schmidt/Carlson

Much better than what they have going for them now.
Who cares what they have "now"? It's June.
Gmbm said today they're looking to trade for a top 4 D

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06-23-2017, 08:42 PM
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The worst part is we get to see 8-19-77 for 50+ games again this season.

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06-23-2017, 08:54 PM
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The worst part is we get to see 8-19-77 for 50+ games again this season.
But we get to hear you complain about it for 50+ games again this season, so it counts as a win in my book.

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06-23-2017, 09:09 PM
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Good news, if he walked we were really in trouble. GMBM comes through.

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But we get to hear you complain about it for 50+ games again this season, so it counts as a win in my book.
I aim to please

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06-23-2017, 09:22 PM
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Genuinely curious how the Oshies will react when Alzner signs elsewhere. Particularly Lyla. She's gonna lose her best friend.

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The worst part is we get to see 8-19 for 70+ games again this season.
Fixed that for you. Oshie is the best part of that line since he makes it work. Of course, he does most of the work.

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06-23-2017, 09:31 PM
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Genuinely curious how the Oshies will react when Alzner signs elsewhere. Particularly Lyla. She's gonna lose her best friend.
Reminds me:who would have thought even a few months ago that we wouldn't even be speculating on if they'd sign alzner? I know many thought it would be a bad idea, but most probably thought they would be weighing it or there would be some suspense.

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06-23-2017, 09:32 PM
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Deal's fine, a bit long but whatever. Term is the new payday. Glad Oshie is sticking around.

I've been away for a while so apologies if this already was discussed but my question is this: if Ovie goes to the Olympics and is suspended by the league, do the Caps have to eat his cap hit anyway?

In my fantasy world, Alex is using his knee/leg rehab as an opportunity to slim down and his upper body and regain leg strength and quickness.

But back in reality, I realize his time in DC most likely needs to be over. Given that, the Olympic thing could be a blessing. He goes to Seoul and then to Moscow and KHL, and the Caps, victims of his cruel desertion as they would be are the recipients of $9.5 M in cap space heading toward the deadline.


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The worst part is we get to see 8-19-77 for 50+ games again this season.

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I'm from the era before FA. When you had guys on the team for a long time. So to see one of my favourite players sticking with the team is awesome.

I'm sorry the 2 "Millennial GM's" are unhappy with it, as they expected.....I don't even know, honestly.

Great for the Caps, great for Oshie, and great for the actual fans.

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06-23-2017, 09:46 PM
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I'm from the era before FA. When you had guys on the team for a long time. So to see one of my favourite players sticking with the team is awesome.

I'm sorry the 2 "Millennial GM's" are unhappy with it, as they expected.....I don't even know, honestly.

Great for the Caps, great for Oshie, and great for the actual fans.
So only people who don't think about the salary cap count as "actual fans?"

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