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06-24-2017, 11:34 AM
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Hope thata the plan. Lehkonen - ikonen combo could be a thing.

Btw Ikonen means "the icon" in swedish could be a great nickname for this potential beauty
Doesn't appear to mean anything in Finnish.

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06-24-2017, 11:44 AM
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What is the bust factor in Ikonen, what is his biggest shortcoming?

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06-24-2017, 11:45 AM
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Wanted the Habs to pick a Finn while I was in Finland. Good job Habs.

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06-24-2017, 11:49 AM
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What is the bust factor in Ikonen, what is his biggest shortcoming?
From what I've read, he tries to dangle too much/keeps the puck on his stick for too long

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06-24-2017, 11:50 AM
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From what I've read, he tries to dangle too much/keeps the puck on his stick for too long
So a smaller AG/Sherbak? Sweet.

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06-24-2017, 11:55 AM
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Well learning not to dangle too much is probably easier than learning how to dangle.

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06-24-2017, 11:58 AM
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So a smaller AG/Sherbak? Sweet.
I don't think AG is a good comparison, as skating seems to be one of Ikonen's strength which is not the case for Chucky

his style seems to be comparable to Victor Arvidsson

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06-24-2017, 11:59 AM
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Love this pick.

Like him more than Bustling.
Of the two players you have never watched, this one is definitely much better..........brilliant.

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06-24-2017, 12:00 PM
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Of the two players you have never watched, this one is definitely much better..........brilliant.
Just want to concur that it would be good for people to limit their declarations on players they barely know or don't know at all.

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06-24-2017, 12:01 PM
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So a smaller AG/Sherbak? Sweet.
Plays a pretty different game than either of them.

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06-24-2017, 12:04 PM
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Just want to concur that it would be good for people to limit their declarations on players they barely know or don't know at all.
Exactly, I understand this is a message board and opinions are goig to be expressed. It would just be nice if people could learn to limit there rants to fact based observations and lose the childish nick names.


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06-24-2017, 12:15 PM
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He does that a lot but he also provides kernels of wisdom.

Off the top of my head he's taken heat here over the years for saying that:
- Grigorenko would bust;
- De La Rose would surpass Bournival on the depth chart;
- Sergachev won't reach his ceiling due to IQ issues;
- Subban is good, Weber is better;

Regardless, on this issue he's correct. If all you know about a player are a couple tweets from Corey Pronman, don't praise Timmins and don't diss Timmins.
One question: how does he know who's seen what?

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06-24-2017, 12:20 PM
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He does that a lot but he also provides kernels of wisdom.

Off the top of my head he's taken heat here over the years for saying that:
- Grigorenko would bust;
- De La Rose would surpass Bournival on the depth chart;
- Sergachev won't reach his ceiling due to IQ issues;
- Subban is good, Weber is better;

Regardless, on this issue he's correct. If all you know about a player are a couple tweets from Corey Pronman, don't praise Timmins and don't diss Timmins.
Stopped reading here.

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06-24-2017, 01:00 PM
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Everytime I have seen him he has been confident, exciting and selfish. I think the last quality might be his undoing.

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06-24-2017, 01:18 PM
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I really like this pick. Maybe a big steal.

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06-24-2017, 01:26 PM
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I doubt he makes the NHL as a C, but with a shot like that he could be a very solid winger. I like the Arvidsson comparison.

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06-24-2017, 01:38 PM
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Would already be a better option than Shaw or Gallagher on the left side half-board of our powerplay. Him and Drouin or Galchenyuk (with Lekhonen in front of net) will be great powerplay.

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06-24-2017, 01:39 PM
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Love this pick for the Habs. Bummed that the Yotes traded down from 35 to 44 and still passed up on Ikonen. Ikonen could end up being a 25-30g steal of a winger.

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06-24-2017, 01:40 PM
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Would already be a better option than Shaw or Gallagher on the left side half-board of our powerplay. Him and Drouin or Galchenyuk (with Lekhonen in front of net) will be great powerplay.
I don't really think so. He needs to figure out the SHL/Liiga first.

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06-24-2017, 01:43 PM
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I don't really think so. He needs to figure out the SHL/Liiga first.
Shaw and Gallagher are better 5vs5 players, by far. Skill-wise, Ikonen, at the moment, can dangle and one-time the puck harder and faster than these two. On the PP, that's what you need.

Yes, he needs to play with Frolunda in the SHL for three years and learn to become a more-rounded player against men. He will be playing for us at the start of 2020-2021.


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06-24-2017, 01:48 PM
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he plays for Frolunda which means he's a guaranteed player

Like Sebastian Collberg?

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We need to keep this guys in the SHL for at least 3 more years. No Sly for him.

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06-24-2017, 01:50 PM
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His shot seems very good

He's beating the Latvia goalie very easily.

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06-24-2017, 01:52 PM
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Interesting exchange from early this morning:

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All the 'weak draft' predictions can never predict the surprises that come with every crop of prospects, often in the 2nd round. It'll be interesting to see which of today's no-name 2nd round picks becomes an NHL star... even more interesting if Timmins is the guy who figures it out beforehand.
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Ikonen will be that guy. I would trade McCarron to get an early 2nd to draft him.

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06-24-2017, 01:59 PM
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Shaw and Gallagher are better 5vs5 players, by far. Skill-wise, Ikonen, at the moment, can dangle and one-time the puck harder and faster than these two. On the PP, that's what you need.

Yes, he needs to play with Frolunda in the SHL for three years and learn to become a more-rounded player against men. He will be playing for us at the start of 2020-2021.
Oh his dangles and one timer are excellent. It'd also be refreshing to have Drouin or Galchenyuk have someone to pass to cross crease on that side, who can also return the favour. Would really force the opponents to give up the points and good luck with that (Weber).

It'll be very interesting to watch him develop. Frölunda will be playing in Austria in the CHL. Might drive over there to see our boy play.

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