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07-03-2017, 01:27 PM
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Grigorenko already signed with ZSKA Moscow for 3 years.

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07-03-2017, 03:59 PM
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The influence he could have on the young 'uns would make it worth it. Could be this year's Vanek for us. Him and Grigorenko
Would give us a good option on PP2.

PP1: Green - Mantha - Abdelkader(Net front)-Zetterberg - Nyquist
PP2: Daley - Tatar - Sheahan(Net front) - Jagr - Larkin/Nielsen

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Grigorenko already signed with ZSKA Moscow for 3 years.
Yeah that's a bummer. I was hoping we could sign Grigorenko on a cheap 1 year show me deal.

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07-10-2017, 01:00 PM
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I liked how Nielsen played, but he's a 3rd line guy forced to play a top two lines role.

I tried to tell you guys last year. He would make an awesome 3rd line center, though!

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07-11-2017, 11:28 AM
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Another vote for Jagr, because well, it's Jagr. It'd be another reason to watch this team.

Plus we could pretend we drafted him instead of Primeau in 1990 and he was on the Wings for his whole career.

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07-11-2017, 12:03 PM
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Another vote for Jagr, because well, it's Jagr. It'd be another reason to watch this team.

Plus we could pretend we drafted him instead of Primeau in 1990 and he was on the Wings for his whole career.
Without Primeau, we don't get Shanahan. Jagr on the wings all his life is an interesting thought though...

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07-11-2017, 12:22 PM
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If there's cap space, signing Jagr would be fun to watch. He was interested a while ago, he might still be.

Trading Nyquist/Tatar and Russo/Sproul for a cheaper upgrade on D would alleviate some capspace and some room to sign him.

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07-11-2017, 12:24 PM
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If there's cap space, signing Jagr would be fun to watch. He was interested a while ago, he might still be.

Trading Nyquist/Tatar and Russo/Sproul for a cheaper upgrade on D would alleviate some capspace and some room to sign him.
Hmm, there's no cap space, if we dont trade a bigger contract.

Like Mrazek or Tatar.

Trade Tatar for future assets, sign Jagr for 2nd line RW for 1-season.

I almost like it.

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07-11-2017, 02:08 PM
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All aboard for signing Jagr because he's an entertaining player and I could add him to my Stars to Wings list.

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07-11-2017, 02:19 PM
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All aboard for signing Jagr because he's an entertaining player and I could add him to my Stars to Wings list.
He isn't the player he was but that doesn't change much. The guy can still play and would certainly be a great way to put people in seats since the product is very bad right now. Signing him would be not only good because I certainly think that he improves our PP which is one of the biggest reasons we sucked last year but you can market Jagr still. (Not nearly as much as other players but for the price and where we are, I think its great tool)

Just sucks that we have so much money tied up in JUNK. Holland has us so restricted its disgusting.

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He isn't the player he was but that doesn't change much. The guy can still play and would certainly be a great way to put people in seats since the product is very bad right now. Signing him would be not only good because I certainly think that he improves our PP which is one of the biggest reasons we sucked last year but you can market Jagr still. (Not nearly as much as other players but for the price and where we are, I think its great tool)

Just sucks that we have so much money tied up in JUNK. Holland has us so restricted its disgusting.
What are the odds, and this question goes out to anyone, that we can move one of those bad contracts? I know they all have Ntc or Nmc, what's the chance we could get one of the players to wave? The prospects of staying here might not be great? If one of the swedes is unhappy maybe more want to go. Yes I know we might have to retain salary or add picks etc. It would be nice to get a free asset like Jagr, and move Tatar for a nice return, sort of fills his spot to an extent, and we get much needed picks back.

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07-11-2017, 10:06 PM
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What are the odds, and this question goes out to anyone, that we can move one of those bad contracts? I know they all have Ntc or Nmc, what's the chance we could get one of the players to wave? The prospects of staying here might not be great? If one of the swedes is unhappy maybe more want to go. Yes I know we might have to retain salary or add picks etc. It would be nice to get a free asset like Jagr, and move Tatar for a nice return, sort of fills his spot to an extent, and we get much needed picks back.
Move Tatar for a defensive prospect and/or draft pick and have Jagr replace him. That way you're not tying up years to another winger. Larkin and Mantha have paydays next season. Can't have Nyquist and Tatar making $10 million between them. Plus Helm and Abby signed forever.

So yeah, get a cheaper future asset and Jagr is only on a 1 year deal so your cap situation is better for next season. ANNNDDD for Ken Holland and the Wings, they get to promote legend Jagr in the new arena which definitely is more fun than Tatar. I mean I like Tatar a lot, but come on... Jagr. Dude is one of the best of all time and even into his 40s he's awesome. Who wouldn't want a Jagr jersey or at least a t-shirt with the Winged Wheel on it?

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07-11-2017, 10:16 PM
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What are the odds, and this question goes out to anyone, that we can move one of those bad contracts? I know they all have Ntc or Nmc, what's the chance we could get one of the players to wave? The prospects of staying here might not be great? If one of the swedes is unhappy maybe more want to go. Yes I know we might have to retain salary or add picks etc. It would be nice to get a free asset like Jagr, and move Tatar for a nice return, sort of fills his spot to an extent, and we get much needed picks back.
I don't seeing many waving. Green and Neilsen might.

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Jagr would be a fun signing and would move a jersey or two off the racks. Kenny owes us a little something after last season. Do it, Kenny.

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I don't seeing many waving. Green and Neilsen might.
Yeah, for all the faults we talk about, Detroit is still a great team to play for. Even with all my criticism, as a veteran player in the league, it would absolutely be on my short list of organizations. They do seem to treat player quite well unless you're just breaking into the league.

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07-11-2017, 11:38 PM
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Yeah, for all the faults we talk about, Detroit is still a great team to play for. Even with all my criticism, as a veteran player in the league, it would absolutely be on my short list of organizations. They do seem to treat player quite well unless you're just breaking into the league.
At some point in time, I can see Neilsen waiving.

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At some point in time, I can see Neilsen waiving.
His contract doesn't help that, with how it back dives. We end up not saving a whole lot in the final two years. It'd be funny if it was a different organization, but Holland seems to hand out contracts that are not only too long and too high of a cap hit, he structures them to work against waive/buyouts. Gator's contract does it. Helm's. Glendening's (WTF?). Even Daley's. I'm betting Tatar's does, too.

It could also make them more attractive on the trade market, except so many teams dance so close to the cap anyway that I'm not sure how much that actually helps facilitate a move anymore when the cap hit is still $5m.

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