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03-22-2006, 11:40 AM
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Equipment Help--Goalie Noob

Sry if this is a repeat, I've seen the other threads but they were kinda old and didn't answer all my questions.

Ok, well the situation is we have no goalie for our next session of adult ice hockey. I was thinking of filling in. I've played some street and roller hockey goalie before. But I was looking for some pads, low cost(though I did get my tax returns and we have a posible sponsor) since idk if I'm really committed to playing goal(most likely just here and there). What are the essentials?...pads, chest protector, blocker, glove, stick, and pants is what I'm thinking. Was gonna slap a cage on my helmet and figure using normal skates for now would be ok.

What size would the chest protector be? Medium shoulder=medium chest protector? And are the gloves and blockers pretty much all the same size? I got smallish hands and use 12"-13" gloves when I play winger or D. Any recommendations? I play a mix of stand up and butterfly so idk if that has an effect on pads. Trying to get an idea of what to look for before I head off to the shop, or if I figure what I want, I might just order and search eBay. I saw you guys mention the DR stuff. I saw some cheap Gear, Tour, and Itech stuff, any experience with that? Are there any package deals out there?

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Totally depends on the level you're playing at. If it's more of an intermediate league, you can probably get away with not having a superb chest protector. But if its guys who can blast away in the 80s and 90s........

As for sizing, it's totally personal preference. The way I like my glove will be completely different from how another goalie prefers his. If at all possible, try some pads on just to see what size you like in general. You can probably get away with going cheap on goalie sticks, especially if you're not the puckhandling type.

You can probably find a couple good deals on eBay on used gear. If you want some new gear and don't want to bust your wallet (maybe give the store a call to see if you can get a discount if you order a set):

Heaton Z:

$249 - Leg Pads (http://www.kempshockey.com/goal/gp_detail.cfm?DID=420) -- I liked these pads a lot when I tried them on. But they didn't have the color/size I wanted. I almost bought them when they were $400.

$80 - Glove (http://www.kempshockey.com/goal/gg_detail.cfm?DID=399)

$60 - Blocker (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/heaton-gbhelitezsr.html) -- not the exact matching blocker

Reebok Seniors:

$299 - Leg pads (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/rbk-glreeboksr.html) - I have these pads, and have no regrets about getting them. I've heard from others that these pads haven't held up too well if you're going to use them 2x a week every week. Just checked a couple online outlets, and they seem to be sold out........

$110 - Glove (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/rbk-gcreeboksr.html)

$80 - Blocker (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/rbk-gbreeboksr.html)

$170 - Chest protector (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/rbk-careeboksr.html)

$100 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/rbk-gpreeboksr.html)

CCM Blockade

$299 - Leg pads (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/ccm-blockade-legpads.html) - Personally don't like the graphics, but the pad itself is solid for the price. It used to sell for $499, but now it's on clearance since it's an older model.

$110 - Glove (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/ccm-blockadecatch.html)

$80 - Blocker (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/ccmblockadesrgb.html)

$150 - Chest Protector (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/ccmblockadesrca.html)

$100 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/ccm-gpgatekeepersr.html)

Itech 4.8X

$280 - Leg Pads (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/itech-go...s-gp48srd.html) -- These ones just came out. I imagine they're the same 4.8 pad, just with updated graphics. Adequate for ice, maybe not the best material.

$120 - Glove (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/itech-gc48xfactorsr.html)

$80 - Blocker (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/itech-gb48xfactorsr.html)

$90 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/itech-4-8srgoalpant.html) -- I have the 9.8 pants, and they've been great.

$160 - Chest Protector (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/it48profproca.html) -- I have an older version of the 4.8, and it's adequate.

TPS Xi
$239 - Leg Pads (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tpsxilegpadsr.html) - Only one size left, 33", and only in Tampa colors.

$90 - Glove (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tpsxicatchglv.html)

$75 - Blocker (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tpsxiblocker.html)

$100 - Chest Protector (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tpsxica11.html)

$70 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tpsgp7goalpant.html)

$95 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tps104goalpants.html)

$100 - Pants (http://www.goaliemonkey.com/tps-gp105sr.html) -- don't really know the diff between the three.

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one word

JOCK

that being said...if your gonna use your helmet and just add a cage make sure u get a neck protector im sure you already planned on it but if you didnt you better

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aw crap, Archie beat me to it...I looked at this earlier & didn't have time to post. I was coming back on to say:

one word - CUP

off topic - Archie, that avatar is hellascary! For the love of all things good and holy, man why?!?!?!?!

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DO NOT just slap a cage on your helmet. There are some areas where you can get away with cutting corners, but head protection is not one of them. A lot of the stuff (pads, gloves, pants) you can buy used and save some cash there. Don't mess around with the helmet, though.

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Wow, thanks!

I did see a package for Tour pads for cheap..pads, blocker, and glove. Have any experience with them? Or how bout Gear, saw those cheap and they come with a 30 satisfaction guarantee.

Yeah, should add a goalie jock...wouldn't mind that extra protection there. Dunno if I want my face to be like this if I got popped.

Well I'm not just gonna slap any cage on a helmet...looking at the Itech one that Chris Osgood uses...or if I can find the Hasek style, that'd be cool too. I play primarily in a D league..so shots hardly ever come up above my waist so I can save a bit on the chest protector...though something in the intermediate range wouldn't hurt if I ever wound up having to play in a higher level.

I'm 6', and average build, you think 32" is the right length? I plug the numbers into a calculator thing on a site that that's what it gave me. Is it ok to get maybe an inch or two shorter for pads?

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Wow, thanks!

I did see a package for Tour pads for cheap..pads, blocker, and glove. Have any experience with them? Or how bout Gear, saw those cheap and they come with a 30 satisfaction guarantee.
Gear equipment is for low end inlineuse only and Tour is pretty only for inline.

Apparently the new CCM Vector Senior pads are very good.

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Hhhmmm couldn't find anything on Gear...but Tour seems to make a lotta inline stuff. But the funny thing is that on their site, they show a kid wearing the goalie pads for ice hockey.

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I wear Tour's for ice. They get the job done.

And if someone could answer my goalie glove question farther down the front page, that'd be rad 'cause I'm looking to buy one...uhh, now, actually.

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I'm 6', and average build, you think 32" is the right length? I plug the numbers into a calculator thing on a site that that's what it gave me. Is it ok to get maybe an inch or two shorter for pads?
Depends on your style. Shorter = greater mobility, bigger = well, bigger. I'm 5'10 and I've been wearing 36" Reeboks because I'm a cheating punk. If I were 6', I'd be getting at least 34". It's best to try some pads on if at all possible. I bought a pair of pads on eBay, and they ended up being too short, so I had to get another set eventually anyways.

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even with a goalie cage, you should really look into a goalie's helmet/mask.

think about it this way - if you're going to spend about 250 to protect your legs, you should spend atleast that protecting whats controlling them.

it makes no sense to cut corners on the mask, even if you're in a D league

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Yeah, should add a goalie jock...wouldn't mind that extra protection there. Dunno if I want my face to be like this if I got popped.
The goalie for my ice hockey team mentioned last game that he wears two cups--one goalie and one normal--for extra protection. Apparently he took one hit a while back that a single cup didn't really help with.

Someone else made the point that a goalie is, in many cases, a giant funnel pulling the puck into that central area, so you definitely want good protection there.

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even with a goalie cage, you should really look into a goalie's helmet/mask.

think about it this way - if you're going to spend about 250 to protect your legs, you should spend atleast that protecting whats controlling them.

it makes no sense to cut corners on the mask, even if you're in a D league
Doesn't seem to faze Osgood, Cloutier or Hasek much. Seriously if you're looking to keep it cheaper you can get away with a helmet/mask combo. I would also advise getting a throat guard though.

If it's rec hockey the mask is kind of a luxury IMO. My first 4 years in beer league I played with a helmet and mask exactly like Cloutier's and took a fair share of bullets of the melon without so much as a pressure cut.

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If it's rec hockey the mask is kind of a luxury IMO. My first 4 years in beer league I played with a helmet and mask exactly like Cloutier's and took a fair share of bullets of the melon without so much as a pressure cut.
The Cloutier-like combo isn't the same as a regular helmet.

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Hedberg is correct - not a regular player helmet, and custom molded. If you long to be a combo-wearing dork (not an insult, the typical way to describe it), go with a Mage like Tim Thomas has.

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Was just checkin' out the Tim Thomas mage online. But yeah, I know Osgood, Hasek and them use a TPS helmet...carbon fiber which is like $2000.

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Here is a link to a Hasek model:
http://www.warwickmaskcompany.com/ma...ions/hasek.htm

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If I go thru with this, think I'm gonna get some Tours. (Or how bout the entry level Itechs?) Read from a couple places that one of the models was rated a best buy..and yes the price is reallly attractive. They also had some package with glove and blocker. Think probably do that, with a 33" or 34" or even 32" since I wanna have that mobility. Definitely like those TPS pants in the links above...either those or Itech pants. And probably will get a Bauer chest protector..saw a good deal and it seems to be more protective than the other low-cost things I saw. Rbk looks like too.

Question about the chest protectors...I'm in between sizes; I'm not fat enough to fill out a large, but would medium be a little shorter? Worried about any spots I might leave uncovered. And would getting a large size help with eating up the shot any?

Got some nice deals on Itech masks..might go with that. Then again there's a ton of stuff on eBay...or if I can find good used stuff off of someone.

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If your c/a is too large, you will have trouble moving in it. Sometimes you can get a large body with medium arms, and you can easily get that from any of the custom places. You may want to consider that.

Beware of the Itechs. Except for the top level masks, they have a bad rep. For the money, I'd rather have an nXi, Olie or Sportmask.

Also, you might want to borrow someone's gear and head to a stick-n-puck or drop in to try it first. It would be a shame to spend all that money on gear only to discover that you hate it.

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The Cloutier-like combo isn't the same as a regular helmet.
Huh. Didn't know that. His and Ozzie's look exactly like my old SK2000/HM30 combo. As I said it did a fine job for years until I finally scraped up enough scratch for an Itech.

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I've taken pucks off the noggin with a full face cage on a standard helmet, didn't feel a thing.

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So goalie skates prob arn't a big deal then? No one mentioned that as important. Do they feel bout the same as normal skates...would there be a big problem with transitioning to them once I get some $$$. Man it bites to be a poor college student, lol.

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goalie skates have flate blades, a lower ankle, and cowling.

you can try skating with normal skates, but because your weight is so far forward (it might just be me, i use my toes alot) you'd be constantly unbalanced, since normal blades have a rocker.

goalie skates will give you great stability and ankle flexibility, which is important because if you have the pads loose to do a profly (with the pads rotating so that the pad face is pointing to the shooter instead of the ice) the ankles are free to rotate with the pad.

plus, if you take a shot off the side of the foot (the pads dont cover the entire skate) it'll hurt like hell


with regards to the combo debate, taking pucks off the cage is fine, but its deflected shots, bad bounces, even just idiot shooters that fire an errant puck in practice that hit the side, particularly the ears, that you need a good goalie mask/combo for. you can do whatever you like to be comfortable, i just personally wouldnt want to get a bad head injury just because i wanted to save a couple bucks

chalk up another vote for nxi, awesome masks =D


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You can manage in player skates if you get them profiled in a goalie cut. Of course, if you do that, they won't be as useful when you skate out. Player skates with a regular player cut will make it extremely difficult to shuffle.

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