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07-01-2017, 10:05 AM
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Trevor Daley... 3 years $3.17M a year



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Eh, would have preferred we signed no one to more than 1 year but understand the decision with Kronner likely a depth player at best. Just no NMC/NTC please.


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Bad deal. Guessing it is at least 3m AAV

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@RealKyper of @Sportsnet saying Trevor Daley will get a little over $9 million for three years with #RedWings

3 mil a year is not bad

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Lol 3 years the start of the bad contract. Here comes 5 mil (guess not looks like 3)

Will only be good if we trade Ericsson or buy him out. Whatever it takes

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3-years is a good fit for our prospects time-line on left side.

Good. Free asset.

Now trade another asset later on this season for picks, so the rebuilding goes on.

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Bob MacKenzie just said the same thing on TSN right now.

3 years. Yikes.


Gotta admit, I've always liked Daley and wanted him in Detroit... but this might not be the best time for him to arrive.

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Have a feeling that Kronwall is done and probably goes on LTIR for his last 2 years, Or else why sign Daley. I can live with Daley on a 3 year deal as long as the AAV is reasonable. No more then $3 million per.

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Have a feeling that Kronwall is done and probably goes on LTIR for his last 2 years, Or else why sign Daley. I can live with Daley on a 3 year deal as long as the AAV is reasonable. No more then $3 million per.
Most important thing IMO is he isn't given a NMC/NTC. He's a decent player and you can get good value via trade, particularly with 2 Cups on his resume.

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Have a feeling that Kronwall is done and probably goes on LTIR for his last 2 years, Or else why sign Daley. I can live with Daley on a 3 year deal as long as the AAV is reasonable. No more then $3 million per.
If kronwall is gone that's fine. Otherwise no reason to sign him

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If kronwall is gone that's fine. Otherwise no reason to sign him
Exactly, But knowing Holland he could be looking for more depth on the blueline.

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3x3 would be great imo. 1-2 years would have been quite amazing but unrealistic.

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Really not that bad of a deal if it's 3x3.1. Supposedly both Boston and Montreal were gunning for him too. Considering both Green and Nielsen also had multiple offers and came here I really think the mystique of the red wings really isn't dead entirely. Probably not a place players take discounts too, but probably still top half as a location

Rather we just do scorched earth but if Holland seriously thinks this is the way to go this could have turned out worse.


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3 years at a shade over 3 million isn't that bad.

Daley is pretty terrible defensively, but he can move the puck.

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3 years at a shade over 3 million isn't that bad.

Daley is pretty terrible defensively, but he can move the puck.
Most of our defensive is terribly defensive and can't move the puck either so still improves us.

To put it this way I think Daley is better than Brendan Smith over the course of the season

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I thought it would be worse tbh, like 4 mil 3 years

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With this and Witowski, I really do not expect to see Kronwall play this season

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This deal all comes down to the NTC or NMC.

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Most of our defensive is terribly defensive and can't move the puck either so still improves us.

To put it this way I think Daley is better than Brendan Smith over the course of the season
I doubt it, Brendan Smith is a lot better defensively than Daley.

I know people hate him here but there is a lot of false narrative on Smith in these parts. He is one of the better shot suppressors in the league. He is an advanced stats darling, his offense just never came and I am glad for him that he has another chance. New York fans sure like him, because they haven't decided they all hate him in mass.

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better than 4 years I guess. but still don't like the thought of adding more long term veteran contracts to this team

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With this and Witowski, I really do not expect to see Kronwall play this season
Yeah i totally agree, With Daley coming in that's pretty much telling me that Kronwall's career is over and he plans on LTIR for the next 2 years.

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I doubt it, Brendan Smith is a lot better defensively than Daley.

I know people hate him here but there is a lot of false narrative on Smith in these parts. He is one of the better shot suppressors in the league. He is an advanced stats darling, his offense just never came and I am glad for him that he has another chance. New York fans sure like him, because they haven't decided they all hate him in mass.
I think it comes down to where he was drafted (as a first rounder) and that he never lived up to his potential as an offensive defenseman. He isn't a slick puck moving top pair guy we hoped/expected him to be, so he kind of got labeled as a "bust", even though he is a solid NHL defenseman now.

I like him, he has good size, skates well and is pretty physical. I also thought Holland did pretty good with the return in trading him. I'm not really sad they moved on from him, and getting Daley isn't super exciting or anything, but they need to bridge the gap until guys like Hicketts, Saarijarvi, Hronek, Cholowski, etc... are ready (if ever...). I'm not exactly sold on guys like Jensen, Ouellet, Sproul, Russo, etc... being long term good top 4 defensemen in this team...

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I doubt it, Brendan Smith is a lot better defensively than Daley.

I know people hate him here but there is a lot of false narrative on Smith in these parts. He is one of the better shot suppressors in the league. He is an advanced stats darling, his offense just never came and I am glad for him that he has another chance. New York fans sure like him, because they haven't decided they all hate him in mass.
Yeah he is. But he gives it away soooo much more it's embarassing

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I doubt it, Brendan Smith is a lot better defensively than Daley.

I know people hate him here but there is a lot of false narrative on Smith in these parts. He is one of the better shot suppressors in the league. He is an advanced stats darling, his offense just never came and I am glad for him that he has another chance. New York fans sure like him, because they haven't decided they all hate him in mass.
His advanced stats are based on easy matchups. Time to get over it. Also his advanced stats won't transfer for goals, just weak shots all the time for offensive.zone faceoff.

Daley at 3.1M >>>>> Smith at 4.35M

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I think it comes down to where he was drafted (as a first rounder) and that he never lived up to his potential as an offensive defenseman. He isn't a slick puck moving top pair guy we hoped/expected him to be, so he kind of got labeled as a "bust", even though he is a solid NHL defenseman now.

I like him, he has good size, skates well and is pretty physical. I also thought Holland did pretty good with the return in trading him. I'm not really sad they moved on from him, and getting Daley isn't super exciting or anything, but they need to bridge the gap until guys like Hicketts, Saarijarvi, Hronek, Cholowski, etc... are ready (if ever...). I'm not exactly sold on guys like Jensen, Ouellet, Sproul, Russo, etc... being long term good top 4 defensemen in this team...
It was very much time to part ways. I think we did a good job turning him into a decent D-man the problem was we should have taken the best of those Badger D and let him play his game. Oh well water under the bridge at this point. I will root for him with the Rangers, just when people take runs at him that are inaccurate I am still going to defend him, I always will at this point. I don't see what the rest of you did there and that much has been clear for a while. I think the fresh start is really good for him.

Daley is a nice bridge. I have no problem with this deal. He provides some puck movement and a vet to lean on in the lineup. I don't think he changes our direction one iota, we are bottom five team in the league without big time goaltending.

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