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07-01-2017, 12:45 PM
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Man people. Are over reacting.... He is a warm. Body on an okay deal that ends right with all the rest of the horrendous deals... You need to be able. To ice players we can roll out a D core of Green, Dekeyser, Sproul, Ouellette, McGill rather Jensen... Yes I didn't include 2 names because they are usually injured

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Lol there's absolutely nothing amazing about giving a 34 year old coming off injuries a 3 year deal with a ntc. Good Lord...

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07-01-2017, 12:46 PM
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I like how the majority of players got signed to either a 1 or a 2 year deal, but Detroit inking a guy to 3 years with a NTC gets categorized as 'short term'.
7 out of 10 stickied posts on the main Trade & Signing forum were 3+ year contracts.

Not sure if your "majority" definition lines up with the real meaning on Webster.com

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I like how the majority of players got signed to either a 1 or a 2 year deal, but Detroit inking a guy to 3 years with a NTC gets categorized as 'short term'.
Would you rather Girardi at 2 years... The guys who got 2 years are forwards not defenseman. What other defenseman signngs of 2 years am I missing

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Meh. Daley is gonna look like complete garbage in Detroit.
This is why I wanted to avoid a NTC. He'll have more value early in the contract IMO. It's not an awful contract, just bummed he had to be given a NTC. Holland gonna Holland.

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When this is all you got, Holland made an amazing signing.
http://www.tsn.ca/ducks-sign-fowler-...nsion-1.794311

Locking up a very good defenseman for 8 years is a lot closer to amazing than giving a scrub 3 years and a NTC.

Daley isn't a bad contract, given market prices, but it's certainly nothing to celebrate.

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Lol there's absolutely nothing amazing about giving a 34 year old coming off injuries a 3 year deal with a ntc. Good Lord...

Who said amazing??? It's exactly what it is, a warm body so we don't have to ice a team with a bunch of 5 to 6 dman that are kids and trying to develop, you will drown them and screw up their development. This contract is a nothing contract, it won't even be a blip on the radar. We had to add someone on D, outside of the big names... Daley Girardi and hainsey were the guys.... Who would you prefer since all 3 are now signed.

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7 out of 10 stickied posts on the main Trade & Signing forum were 3+ year contracts.

Not sure if your "majority" definition lines up with the real meaning on Webster.com
http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker

Try looking at ALL the signings, rather than just the ones driving discussion on a given forum.

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I wonder what he would have got without the NMC.

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This is why I wanted to avoid a NTC. He'll have more value early in the contract IMO. It's not an awful contract, just bummed he had to be given a NTC. Holland gonna Holland.
Daley probably just wants to retire, so that's why he included the NTC. He can just spend the last three years of his career playing in a brand new building while making three million a year and not have to worry about playoffs or actually being good.

Good for him.

Wings are basically the "farm up north" your parents told you where your dog went when you were young.

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No it isn't. People are forgetting Daley was terrible in his last couple years in Dallas and was dumped by Chicago for nothing. He had one good year insulated on in an absolutely stacked Pittsburg team then reverted to his usual suck and injuries last year. Daley is not a good hockey player.

Aaaaaand he gets an ntc hahahaha
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Meh. Daley is gonna look like complete garbage in Detroit.
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Dumped by three teams in three seasons. Surely, he's a winner and a perfect piece for a team built for the playoffs.

Holland logic.
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Lol there's absolutely nothing amazing about giving a 34 year old coming off injuries a 3 year deal with a ntc. Good Lord...
-Top 4 defenseman on last years Stanley Cup Champions.
-2 Cup rings.
-12 years in the league, he has AVERAGED 75 games per season and never suffered a major injury.
-Great skater, good with the puck.

Arrives in Detroit and instantly becomes a bottom pairing, injury riddled, loser and a scrub.... before ever stepping on the ice. Gotta love this board.


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Well when you got from Pittsburgh to Detroit, your play is going to suffer quite a bit.

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-Top 4 defenseman on last years Stanley Cup Champions.
-2 Cup rings.
-12 years in the league, he has AVERAGED 75 games per season and never suffered a major injury.
-Great skater, good with the puck.

Arrives in Detroit and instantly becomes a bottom pairing, injury riddled, loser and a scrub.... before ever stepping on the ice. Gotta love this board.
Holland derangement syndrome is pretty powerful here.

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-Top 4 defenseman on last years Stanley Cup Champions.
-2 Cup rings.
-12 years in the league, he has AVERAGED 75 games per season and never suffered a major injury.
-Great skater, good with the puck.

Arrives in Detroit and instantly becomes a bottom pairing, injury riddled, loser and a scrub.... before ever stepping on the ice. Gotta love this board.
He was putrid at Defense in Dallas, though he did play a lot. He was so awful in Chicago they dumped him or a cap dump in Scuderi.

I mean I don't think this is a bad deal. I don't think Daley is going to help all that much. Our season hopes hinge on our goaltending in my opinion.

But lets not pretend the Daley in Chicago didn't exist, he was horrifically bad there. He has some tendencies we need though on this team and the deal doesn't damage anything we are doing. Still the concerns about Daley outside of that Pittsburgh system are fair in my opinion.

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Can't believe he got an NTC...

Don't really care anymore about these signings. Basically waiting for Holland to be gone for my interest in the team to return. Too bad that Tyler Wright dude is next in line.

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Don't hate the deal, I just don't like the NMC.

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Can't believe he got an NTC...

Don't really care anymore about these signings. Basically waiting for Holland to be gone for my interest in the team to return. Too bad that Tyler Wright dude is next in line.
Isn't it a bit too early for Tyler? I mean I guess he's not great. TBH I'm kind of scared if we are a high pick in the next draft he wouldn't draft dahlin or svech

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http://www.tsn.ca/tradecentre/trade-tracker

Try looking at ALL the signings, rather than just the ones driving discussion on a given forum.
Why do I want to look at what the scrubs signed for? Lets look at the players that are top 4 who log 20+ minutes per game.

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That ruins the deal for me, brutal.
At least you waited to find out what the terms of the clauses were.

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At least you waited to find out what the terms of the clauses were.
4 years no NTC and he would have said it was brutal. 2 years 4+ mil and it would be brutal. It would have been brutal in the haters eyes no matter what.

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Veteran blueliner to fill minutes.. So alright, why not.

Add him to my Stars to Wings collection officially.

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Deal includes no-trade/modified no-trade clause.
Full no-trade for 2 seasons and then modified...guy can be traded for a contender?

Would be mastered for rebuilding asset management.

Has anybody seen confirmed details?

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4 years no NTC and he would have said it was brutal. 2 years 4+ mil and it would be brutal. It would have been brutal in the haters eyes no matter what.
I'm just spitballing here, but I'd bet it's a first year full NMC, a second year NTC, and a third year modified NTC where Daley can select 8-12 teams he won't go to or something.

In terms of real impact I think the clause will be a big nothingburger, beyond being something for folks to work themselves up over. It'd be stupid to trade him this year, and by then the real meat of the clause will likely have passed. At a cap number that low if Detroit still stinks in 20 he'll be an easy commodity to move, and he'll be movable.

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I'm just spitballing here, but I'd bet it's a first year full NMC, a second year NTC, and a third year modified NTC where Daley can select 8-12 teams he won't go to or something.
This. Nothing but this.

This contract is built for selling at 2020 trade deadline. Tail-end salary, earning only 2.2M on the last year, is interesting for contending buyers.

Now we have a warm body, so we can sell somebody else at this season.


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I'm just spitballing here, but I'd bet it's a first year full NMC, a second year NTC, and a third year modified NTC where Daley can select 8-12 teams he won't go to or something.

In terms of real impact I think the clause will be a big nothingburger, beyond being something for folks to work themselves up over. It'd be stupid to trade him this year, and by then the real meat of the clause will likely have passed. At a cap number that low if Detroit still stinks in 20 he'll be an easy commodity to move, and he'll be movable.
Lol nothingburger. How do we not know what the full details are yet

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