HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Detroit Red Wings
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Luke Witkowski... 2 years $750K a year

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-01-2017, 12:14 PM
  #51
The Zetterberg Era
Moderator
Thank you Mr. I, RIP
 
The Zetterberg Era's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Ft. Myers, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 28,775
vCash: 704
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomhower View Post
I still like Sproul. Haven't given up on him just yet.

Obviously I don't care if Witkowski goes on waivers.
Problem is by giving him a 2 year deal there is ZERO chance he will ever be claimed on waivers.
Don't need another 27 year old on the blueline in Grand Rapids... but whatever I think Blashill will actually play this scrub.
At under 900K who cares if he is claimed or unclaimed on waivers?

It is just Ilitch's money. Dude is tough, he plays both forward and D and because he is under 900K there are absolutely no cap implications associated with him.

There are things to be fired up about, this isn't one of them. Holland did minimal damage if any today. He got a couple more bodies, but nothing to impact the trajectory.

The Zetterberg Era is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 12:15 PM
  #52
lomekian
Registered User
 
lomekian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 551
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomhower View Post
1 year doesn't hurt, but we do have a ton of Defenseman in the organization now.

DETROIT (9)
Kronwall
Dekeyser
Daley
Green
Ericsson
Jensen
Ouellet
Sproul
Witkowski

Grand Rapids (8)
McIlrath
Lashoff
Hicketts
Rousso
Hronek
Renouf
Saarijarvi
McCarron (One way AHL only contract)

No way we carry 9 defenseman in NHL.
That leaves Sproul as potential waiver fodder IMO. And if he clears, wow what a logjam in Grand Rapids.
True, but Sproul had an off season procedure and will likely start LTIR. I'll be amazed if those 9 D are ever fit at the same time and if they are, Witkowski gets waived.

lomekian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 12:23 PM
  #53
Run the Jewels
Registered User
 
Run the Jewels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the Garage
Posts: 11,589
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by chances14 View Post
witkowski's deal is for 2 years, not one
Makes it easier to bury him. I can't see anyone claiming him when he gets put on waivers. Holland proving once again how much he enjoys playing GM for Grand Rapids. Holland is overpaying Witkowski for two years in order to build out the Griffins. He'll get his full salary regardless of where he plays. Fine with me I guess.

Run the Jewels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 12:35 PM
  #54
Nut Upstrom
Registered User
 
Nut Upstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 954
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomhower View Post
Oh Yeah Witchowski is great! A true NHL professional. Clearly leagues above McIlrath.

McIlrath is younger, bigger, tougher and was a former 1st round pick.
NHL
43GP- 3G, 2A and +5 (Age25)

Witkowski
NHL
54GP - 0G, 4A and -1 (Age 27)

Listen they are both nothing more than stay at home 6th/7th guys. Nobody is obsessed thanks.
Might aswell keep the guy who is actually an intimidator. Not some fake college tough guys, who will fight, but scares nobody.


Exactly my point. We already had McIlrath. Why sign the exact same player twice? (most teams want nothing to do with these type D men)
Michigan man and Blashill's boy. gross.
I'm guessing that this signing has something to do with their "tougher to play against" philosophy which they spoke of during and after the draft. If Witko plays forward in our bottom 6 I could see some use for him, and if McIlrath wants to make the team I think he needs to really make a case for himself during the pre-season games. It sounds like he had himself a great playoffs for GR; hopefully he can turn a corner and make our squad as a regular, would love a kid with his size and nastiness.

Nut Upstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 12:51 PM
  #55
Roy S
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,011
vCash: 500
Both deals seem pointless. But whatever.

At least 2 of Sproul, E and Kronwall must be starting on LTIR.

Roy S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 12:59 PM
  #56
Nut Upstrom
Registered User
 
Nut Upstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Florida
Posts: 954
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy S View Post
Both deals seem pointless. But whatever.

At least 2 of Sproul, E and Kronwall must be starting on LTIR.
Well they are pointless in the sense that they won't get us any closer to a playoff spot, but Witkowski will make us tougher to play against and hopefully Dailey will serve as another mentor for our young kids, especially if Kronwall's leadership is removed from the line up on a regular basis.

Nut Upstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 01:03 PM
  #57
Sparty
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 118
vCash: 500
Everyone wants us to tank and everyone gets upset when they don't like a signing. A cheap one like this isn't going to hurt the team financially and it probably isn't going to help us get better, so why all the outrage?

Sparty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 01:58 PM
  #58
Henkka
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 13,785
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparty View Post
Everyone wants us to tank and everyone gets upset when they don't like a signing.
This is really THE FUNNIEST thing when reading this board.

People just can't decide is it good or bad to be bad/good.

But I'm laughing my ass off. Good entertainment.

Henkka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 02:00 PM
  #59
datsyukfan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 793
vCash: 500
Hopefully this means e is ltir retired

datsyukfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 02:04 PM
  #60
Number1RedWingsFan52
Registered User
 
Number1RedWingsFan52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Winter Haven Florida
Country: United States
Posts: 24,210
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by datsyukfan View Post
Hopefully this means e is ltir retired
Wouldn't break my heart if both Kronwall and Ericsson are on LTIR for the rest of their careers, As both are pretty much finished as of now.

Number1RedWingsFan52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 02:09 PM
  #61
RetiredSquid
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central New York
Country: United States
Posts: 783
vCash: 500
You are going to appreciate the leadership and play style Witkowski will bring far more than you think. Yzerman wants Cupcakes in the Tampa Bay organization, which is why he allows players like Tanner Richard and Witkowski to find employment elsewhere. Too bad he has forgotten his glory years in Detroit with Probert, Kocur, and McCarty covering his back. In Tampa they have Brown and Paquette to serve as the designated punching bags.

RetiredSquid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 02:21 PM
  #62
Bruce Joker
Professor X
 
Bruce Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: East Coast
Country: United States
Posts: 13,151
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredSquid View Post
You are going to appreciate the leadership and play style Witkowski will bring far more than you think. Yzerman wants Cupcakes in the Tampa Bay organization, which is why he allows players like Tanner Richard and Witkowski to find employment elsewhere. Too bad he has forgotten his glory years in Detroit with Probert, Kocur, and McCarty covering his back. In Tampa they have Brown and Paquette to serve as the designated punching bags.
So because he doesn't want a fringe nhler he only wants cupcakes. Allright

Bruce Joker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 02:53 PM
  #63
Henkka
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tampere, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 13,785
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by datsyukfan View Post
Hopefully this means e is ltir retired
Signing Witkowski means that he could be the utility player, 14th forward + 8th defenceman at same time.

Travelling with the team and probably sees 10 games during a season. Plays in an injury logjam. Jumps in if injuries happen at road trips. Because calling a prospect on them is always almost impossible.


Last edited by Henkka: 07-01-2017 at 03:45 PM.
Henkka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:02 PM
  #64
Run the Jewels
Registered User
 
Run the Jewels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the Garage
Posts: 11,589
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by chances14 View Post
interesting. hsj suggesting he could play forward
She should stick to regurgitating hockey journalist tweets. We have so many bottom 6 forwards there's really no need to move an AHL caliber D-man to forward.

Run the Jewels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:03 PM
  #65
Run the Jewels
Registered User
 
Run the Jewels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the Garage
Posts: 11,589
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Joker View Post
So because he doesn't want a fringe nhler he only wants cupcakes. Allright
He'll fit in nicely next to McIlrath in Grand Rapids.

Run the Jewels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:03 PM
  #66
Bruce Joker
Professor X
 
Bruce Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: East Coast
Country: United States
Posts: 13,151
vCash: 500
I love the obsession with toughness going on with the organization right now. I'd rather beat teams by scaring them then outplaying them

Bruce Joker is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:11 PM
  #67
21 Savage
Rookie User
 
21 Savage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 86
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparty View Post
Everyone wants us to tank and everyone gets upset when they don't like a signing. A cheap one like this isn't going to hurt the team financially and it probably isn't going to help us get better, so why all the outrage?
Because deals like this are bad on both fronts. If he plays 40 games that's 40 games a svechnikov or Bertuzzi could get

21 Savage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:17 PM
  #68
sepster
Registered User
 
sepster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North of the 'D"
Posts: 1,468
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Joker View Post
I love the obsession with toughness going on with the organization right now. I'd rather beat teams by scaring them then outplaying them
Holland is not turning the Wings into a goon squad. Signing 1 or 2 guys that can fight and play tough does not turn the Wings into Neanderthals. There is no one else on the roster that fills the role Witowski or McIllrath can. Hasn't been years.

The Wings do have a decent amount of talent, that given some space and a little confidence that they're not going to be head-hunted on a daily basis, could win us some games.

I know the majority of people around here bury their heads behind their analytics charts and decry any type of team toughness but people playing and managing in the NHL think otherwise. The Wings have been small and soft for over 5 years now, and their record has consistently declined right along with their lack of muscle. Maybe try something different?

sepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 03:20 PM
  #69
sepster
Registered User
 
sepster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: North of the 'D"
Posts: 1,468
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 21 Savage View Post
Because deals like this are bad on both fronts. If he plays 40 games that's 40 games a svechnikov or Bertuzzi could get
Witkowski is not here to fill the same role either Bert or Svechnikov will be filling. You can look at bums like Helm and Sheahan for where their icetime is being eaten up.

sepster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 04:08 PM
  #70
Vatican Roulette
Baile de Los Locos
 
Vatican Roulette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gorillaz-EPWRID
Country: United States
Posts: 13,717
vCash: 500
Also indifferent to this deal. Depth signing, press box regular.

I don't think he's going to block anyone.

__________________
I move with elegance of an African elephant
Vatican Roulette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 07:14 PM
  #71
Cranky Doodle Daddy
No quit in this one
 
Cranky Doodle Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Royal Oak
Country: Australia
Posts: 1,324
vCash: 500
Great beard



Cranky Doodle Daddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 07:17 PM
  #72
Pavels Dog
Registered User
 
Pavels Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 8,595
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 21 Savage View Post
Because deals like this are bad on both fronts. If he plays 40 games that's 40 games a svechnikov or Bertuzzi could get
If he sits in the pressbox 42 games, that's 42 games a Bert/Svech doesn't have to sit there.

Pavels Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 07:19 PM
  #73
Heaton
Moderator
 
Heaton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rochester, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 21,547
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Heaton
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavels Dog View Post
If he sits in the pressbox 42 games, that's 42 games a Bert/Svech doesn't have to sit there.
Them getting called up to sit in the press box is another story and it's twice as bad.

Heaton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 07:38 PM
  #74
obey86
Registered User
 
obey86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5,969
vCash: 500
saw on twitter this guy is likely going to play forward, not defense.

EDIT:

Helene St. James‏Verified account @HeleneStJames 9h9 hours ago
More
Red Wings also sign Luke Witkowski for 1 yr, $750K for toughness (ask Anthony Mantha). More likely to play F than D.

EDIT #2: see it's already been mentioned, just saw everyone talking about the defense so didn't know if people saw it.

obey86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-01-2017, 09:30 PM
  #75
martinez
Goodbye JLA
 
martinez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,687
vCash: 500
I don't mind this signing. He's a tough guy that we can scratch half the time

martinez is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. @2017 All Rights Reserved.